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Nov 27, 2017 09:45:06   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
LarryFitz wrote:
Shooting Raw and Jpeg gives me the option of not processing Raw images. I am part of an the neighborhood HOA committee, when we want to discuss landscape, pool, tennis court improvements, picture are great to aid in the discussion. Jpeg work just great. There are other times when the image is for documentation, not photograph. I could switch back and forth, but why risk finding Jpeg only on the SD card when you really want Raw.


I shoot only raw. If I need something in a hurry AND I have an average contrast scene (aka the jpg resembles the raw file), I can save images to a laptop, and use Ifranview, Faststone Image Viewer or Instant Jpeg from Raw - to extract the jpeg preview from the files. This takes just seconds to do, If you are on a job and you have an absurdly demanding client and deadline, or you work for Reuters, which does not accept anything but out of camera jpegs, then you have no choice but to shoot jpeg. The rest of us mortals can do just fine shooting raw files without a downside, and the upside is that you have images with greater potential than any jpeg, especially in marginal or high-contrast lighting. I've done it this way since 2006. So far no downside that I can see. And yes, I have worked for people who need things in a hurry.

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Nov 27, 2017 09:46:17   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
ejones0310 wrote:
I cannot view the RAW files from within the Windows Explorer app. All I can see is an icon. The software that came with my camera is slow and clunky, so the quickest way to manage the files is to shoot both JPG & RAW and then delete the rejects in a pair from Windows Explorer.


Microsoft has a free Codec pack that you need to view the embedded JPEG in a RAW file on a pre-Windows 10 machine. Windows 10 has it built in.

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Nov 27, 2017 10:04:27   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
via the lens wrote:
In another post someone said they shot RAW and JPEG and they were asking about a way to delete some RAW files easily. They said they "cull photos by viewing the jpegs" and I'm curious as to why this would be a better way to view photos than simply looking at the RAW photos? I've read that other people do this, too. I just import the RAW photos into Lightroom, put an "X" on the ones I don't want and then at the end delete all of them, which is sometimes over a hundred. What am I missing by just viewing my RAW files and then only having to quickly delete the unwanted files with a quick keystroke or two?
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Shooting both RAW and .JPEG is based on the needs or preferences of the photographer. As you can see from the responses, there are many reasons! So, you are not missing anything! As long as you have LR [or another compatible program], where you can view the RAW images, you don't need both formats. As Gene51 pointed out, a .JPEG can be created quickly. And that can be done at any point - before, during, or after editing is finished.

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Nov 27, 2017 10:18:35   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
via the lens wrote:
In another post someone said they shot RAW and JPEG and they were asking about a way to delete some RAW files easily. They said they "cull photos by viewing the jpegs" and I'm curious as to why this would be a better way to view photos than simply looking at the RAW photos? I've read that other people do this, too. I just import the RAW photos into Lightroom, put an "X" on the ones I don't want and then at the end delete all of them, which is sometimes over a hundred. What am I missing by just viewing my RAW files and then only having to quickly delete the unwanted files with a quick keystroke or two?
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The only thing I can think of is that jpg files load faster than raw files. So you can view them at 100% quicker than a raw at 100%.

If your computer is a pretty fast computer then you have nothing to worry about.

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Nov 27, 2017 10:51:41   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
I shoot Raw except for a family event LR Classic download import now has the option of embedded and sidecar very fast on importing and you see the embedded JPEG

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Nov 27, 2017 10:55:35   #
peterg Loc: Santa Rosa, CA
 
Unless one needs jpeg versions of photos, I see no need for a camera to create jpegs in addition to RAWs. An example is where there's a publishing deadline.
There are conflicting reports on whether or not RAW files contain an embedded low-quality jpegs. Makes no difference when culling photos.
Culling and keywording in Lightroom or equivalent is usually fast enough for low-volume photographers.
For high-volume photographers, culling, keywording, etc. with apps like "Photo Mechanic", http://www.camerabits.com , and "FastRawViewer", http://www.fastrawviewer.com , are the way to go.
For detailed analysis of RAWs needs dedicated apps. I use "RawDigger", http://www.rawdigger.com . Example: Examining a histogram of the RAW data as opposed to a histogram of a jpeg copy. (You can't post-process image parts that aren't recorded in the RAW file.)
Please go to the above links for detailed explanations.

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Nov 27, 2017 11:11:18   #
jnuss
 
I shoot solely in raw. Like Linda, I use FastTone viewer to view the raw files and delete clunkers. The keepers are imported into PSE9 which has Adobe Camera Raw.
I save the finished product as a jpeg into a folder on my hard drive. There are numerous procedures and 3rd party software which can be used for post processing.
Choose whatever works for you.

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Nov 27, 2017 12:11:10   #
efleck Loc: Vancouver, WA State
 
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I shoot RAW, and import the RAW files into Lightroom; and then begin deleting, and making adjustments.
I personally see no reason to shoot RAW and JPEG--but I could be missing something.
No one has addressed your very valid question yet.


I shoot RAW into disc #1 and medium JPEG into the second slot for one simple reason--In my hands I discovered that my camera (Olympus EM1.2) will not transfer my raw (.ORF) files to my iPhone or my iPad via the Olympus Share app. By removing the RAW loaded disk in slot one, the Olympus Share program will transfer the medium JPEGs to my iPhone or iPad so I can share them. If I wasn't interested in sharing a few photos with friends after a day's shooting in Africa, I would not be saving the JPEGs. Earl

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Nov 27, 2017 12:16:13   #
Morning Star Loc: West coast, North of the 49th N.
 
From a Grandma's point of view: My grandkids, even the youngest at just over 2 yrs old, know what happens when Grandma gets out her "black box".
Since of the 13 grand kids and 1 great-grand, only 3 live nearby, and since I don't take my computer with me when we travel, it is much easier to shoot in raw+jpg, and give the kids the pictures they want withing minutes after I have taken them. They are happy to wait for "good" prints till after I get home, but like to have some, regardless of quality (that will change as they grow older) right away! So to me, raw + jpg is the perfect solution.

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Nov 27, 2017 12:58:35   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
peterg wrote:
Unless one needs jpeg versions of photos, I see no need for a camera to create jpegs in addition to RAWs. An example is where there's a publishing deadline.
There are conflicting reports on whether or not RAW files contain an embedded low-quality jpegs. Makes no difference when culling photos.
Culling and keywording in Lightroom or equivalent is usually fast enough for low-volume photographers.
For high-volume photographers, culling, keywording, etc. with apps like "Photo Mechanic", http://www.camerabits.com , and "FastRawViewer", http://www.fastrawviewer.com , are the way to go.
For detailed analysis of RAWs needs dedicated apps. I use "RawDigger", http://www.rawdigger.com . Example: Examining a histogram of the RAW data as opposed to a histogram of a jpeg copy. (You can't post-process image parts that aren't recorded in the RAW file.)
Please go to the above links for detailed explanations.
Unless one needs jpeg versions of photos, I see no... (show quote)




FRV & RAWDigger are a pair of great little apps!

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Nov 27, 2017 13:23:42   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
via the lens wrote:
In another post someone said they shot RAW and JPEG and they were asking about a way to delete some RAW files easily. They said they "cull photos by viewing the jpegs" and I'm curious as to why this would be a better way to view photos than simply looking at the RAW photos? I've read that other people do this, too. I just import the RAW photos into Lightroom, put an "X" on the ones I don't want and then at the end delete all of them, which is sometimes over a hundred. What am I missing by just viewing my RAW files and then only having to quickly delete the unwanted files with a quick keystroke or two?
In another post someone said they shot RAW and JPE... (show quote)


It depends upon the software being used and other considerations.

Lightroom allows direct viewing of RAW, utilizing exposure, color temp and tint as were set in the camera at the time... but ignoring other settings you might have made (contrast, saturation, sharpness, noise reduction, etc.) You have to "redo" those tweaks to your images. JPEGs, on the other hand, will have already seen all those factors applied while still in the camera.

Viewing RAW in other software might not even reflect true colors, as recorded by the camera. Windows Explorer and built in image viewers, for example.

Still other software, such as that provided by the camera manufacturer themselves, might reflect all the settings of the camera, even with RAW.

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Nov 27, 2017 13:25:15   #
chapjohn Loc: Tigard, Oregon
 
I shoot raw and jpg. I use Amazon Pictures to store/archive my images. Amazone does show the raw image but all the infomation is there and the jpg is stored so I can see what the image is. I work on images off my external hard drives then those images (raw and jpg) are saved on amazon.

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Nov 27, 2017 13:32:22   #
Reinaldokool Loc: San Rafael, CA
 
ejones0310 wrote:
I cannot view the RAW files from within the Windows Explorer app. All I can see is an icon. The software that came with my camera is slow and clunky, so the quickest way to manage the files is to shoot both JPG & RAW and then delete the rejects in a pair from Windows Explorer.


Go to MS Windows Support and download the Codec. MS makes one for most camera raw images. That way you can see the raw.

But to the original question. I shoot both for convenience. I sometimes have a"customer" who wants his picture NOW and wants to use his cellphone to put it on FB or another of those abominable social media. I can give him the jpeg right away without waiting till I post process.

Otherwise, no reason to have the jpegs.

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Nov 27, 2017 13:33:18   #
Jim Bob
 
via the lens wrote:
In another post someone said they shot RAW and JPEG and they were asking about a way to delete some RAW files easily. They said they "cull photos by viewing the jpegs" and I'm curious as to why this would be a better way to view photos than simply looking at the RAW photos? I've read that other people do this, too. I just import the RAW photos into Lightroom, put an "X" on the ones I don't want and then at the end delete all of them, which is sometimes over a hundred. What am I missing by just viewing my RAW files and then only having to quickly delete the unwanted files with a quick keystroke or two?
In another post someone said they shot RAW and JPE... (show quote)


Good luck at..."simply looking at the RAW photos".

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Nov 27, 2017 13:44:41   #
shelty Loc: Medford, OR
 
I have a camera that shoots only jpeg and it is very hard to work with. I much prefer raw because it's so easy to work with.

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