Square-format eye-level FF DSLR ... has its time come, or no?
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
Angmo wrote:
Well, then...
got too many Rollei lenses. Will await Rollie’s resurrection and world dominance...
When do you anticipate that happening, Angmo?
Will they bring back the E36 RE and the SL66, do you think?
Only - this time ... all digital?
Kfallsfotoman wrote:
I flounder on this.
I shot 2 1/4 Sq in film days for a number of years - loved the format for the size & flexibility.
But I also understood that a portion of the image was going to be "thrown away" to fit into conventional print formats.
That was OK since I had a big image to deal with.
When I moved to 35mm I became a twister.
Sq digital would be good - but I don't think at aps-c, or even full frame, it would be a viable format - think I would rather twist.
"For that reason I'M out" - lol
Now if we could get an affordable 6x4.5 format I would be all for it
I flounder on this. br br I shot 2 1/4 Sq in film... (
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Does not 6x4.5 = 4x3 format? available as M43 (MFT)? Affordable in Panasonic's new Pro level G9 weather sealed flagship? You would be throwing little away through cropping. It's called moving with the times.
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
Angmo wrote:
One can only hope.
Let's start a movement, Angmo ...
Would you like to write the letter to Rollei, or shall I do it?
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
Delderby wrote:
Does not 6x4.5 = 4x3 format? available as M43 (MFT)? Affordable in Panasonic's new Pro level G9 weather sealed flagship? You would be throwing little away through cropping. It's called moving with the times.
It's not exact, Del .... and 4x3 isn't square ... but the G9 may well have a square re-format option ... probably does, actually ...
6x4.5cm - like 6x7cm before it - transposes to a perfect 8x10 ... which is why those two formats, in film - were so popular ...
But, now, in the digital age ... that format - 6x4.5cm ... just requires more res ... which makes them prohibitively expensive ....
The latest crop of FF sensors (Canon 50mp, Nikon 46mp, Sony 42mp, Pentax 36mp) are mostly all up there now with MF sensors ...
And, for the most part - at half the price!!!!
Chris T wrote:
It's not exact, Del .... and 4x3 isn't square ... but the G9 may well have a square re-format option ... probably does, actually ...
6x4.5cm - like 6x7cm before it - transposes to a perfect 8x10 ... which is why those two formats, in film - were so popular ...
But, now, in the digital age ... that format - 6x4.5cm ... just requires more res ... which makes them prohibitively expensive ....
The latest crop of FF sensors (Canon 50mp, Nikon 46mp, Sony 42mp, Pentax 36mp) are mostly all up there now with MF sensors ...
And, for the most part - at half the price!!!!
It's not exact, Del .... and 4x3 isn't square ... ... (
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The explanation helps - but I have to accept rather than fully understand. I cannot calculate the matrix.
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
Delderby wrote:
The explanation helps - but I have to accept rather than fully understand. I cannot calculate the matrix.
I can't either, Del ....
Many cameras have the "1:1" reformat option in their menus ... which, someone on this thread - indicated equaled - Square ...
I tried it on my Canon EOS Rebel T4i ... and now I have an image shot at that format setting - but, it's STILL a rectangle!!!!
So, I'm not quite sure what that "1:1" setting is supposed to represent ... apparently - it doesn't equate to SQUARE ...
I'd be interested to know if anyone else here has tried it ... and the result they got with it ...
BHC
Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
Chris T wrote:
It's not exact, Del .... and 4x3 isn't square ... but the G9 may well have a square re-format option ... probably does, actually ...
6x4.5cm - like 6x7cm before it - transposes to a perfect 8x10 ... which is why those two formats, in film - were so popular ...
But, now, in the digital age ... that format - 6x4.5cm ... just requires more res ... which makes them prohibitively expensive ....
The latest crop of FF sensors (Canon 50mp, Nikon 46mp, Sony 42mp, Pentax 36mp) are mostly all up there now with MF sensors ...
And, for the most part - at half the price!!!!
It's not exact, Del .... and 4x3 isn't square ... ... (
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Actually, neither 645 nor 6X7 yields a perfect 8X10; they are very close, but either requires a bit of trimming.
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
BHC wrote:
Actually, neither 645 nor 6X7 yields a perfect 8X10; they are very close, but either requires a bit of trimming.
BHC .... ya coulda fooled me!!!!
My 6x7 negs ... from all three of the cameras I used to have - utilizing that format (RB67, Universal, Pentax 6x7) all make perfect 8x10s!
Since I've never had or used a 645 ... I don't really know ... but I thought they did, also ... but, it's possible they need cropping ...
BHC
Loc: Strawberry Valley, JF, USA
6÷7=0.8571428571428571429 X 10 = 8.571428571428571429
The "Aspect Ratio" feature only works if you're shooting Jpegs.
It doesn't work if you're shooting Raw.
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
Robert Bailey wrote:
The "Aspect Ratio" feature only works if you're shooting Jpegs.
It doesn't work if you're shooting Raw.
Never shoot anything else, Robert ....
Still wound up with a rectangle ....
Chris T wrote:
Unless you used 8x8 or 10x10 paper, made by Kodak, especially FOR square format prints ....
never an issue for me. i had my chromes printed fully square on standard paper, so, for instance, an 8x8 print would be printed on 8x12 paper, and so on. doing large format photography at the time, i always used every bit of my negative as possible. did not like ever cropping.
Chris T wrote:
Never shoot anything else, Robert ....
Still wound up with a rectangle ....
Justvcaught up with this thread Chris. My LX100 works 1:1 square in both RAW & jpeg.
Chris T
Loc: from England across the pond to New England
TonyP wrote:
Justvcaught up with this thread Chris. My LX100 works 1:1 square in both RAW & jpeg.
Thanks so much, Tony ... just bringing up DPReview's on it right now ... will take a look ... thanks ...
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