Jerrin1 wrote:
A couple of years ago I chose to buy LR6 rather than rent Lightroom CC, as I did not fancy the monthly payments. Because I own a Nikon and an Olympus and use them side by side it made sense to use LR6 rather than the free processing software offered by both companies (I didn't like either anyway). I have all the lenses I require and as both cameras represent the latest offerings in their niche, I will not be upgrading in the forseable future. So, in fairness, this news should not affect me. As an aside, someone who's blog I follow recently attempted to cancel his LR CC subscription and it made amusing reading. It took him some time to persuade 2 x Adobe call centre operators (yes, it took two lengthy phone calls - no facility to do so on-line) that he really did want to cancel his subscription.
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As you didn't link the blog , I went looking I found this
https://gist.github.com/roddds/a1f42bae598028ac7809Seems cancelling can be difficult, also you can get the full suite for $30 a month maybe $25 a month if you get the free months :)
Signing you up for 12 months is one thing , the auto renew for another 12 months and then charging 50% to cancel ...
Anyway an entertaining read also
https://www.geek.com/apps/adobe-will-try-anything-to-stop-a-creative-cloud-cancellation-1644869/
DaveO wrote:
All for a never ending monthly fee...
Yes, just like electricity, water, trash, cable tv, mortgage, insurance, etc. etc. etc.
larrylee wrote:
Adobe is not going to sell any more DVDs or offer updates for light room! They will only continue lightroom in the cloud for a monthly fee. I sure hope this won't extend into Photoshop and Elements. I personally don't want to have to go on to the net to process my work, and am not wanting to be herded into that corral like livestock. Yes I understand it's my 82 years pushing back at new technology, but I just wanted to vent: Larry
Do a little research and check your statements.
Dave Sr
Loc: Nazareth, Pennsylvania
Gene51
Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
Jerrin1 wrote:
A couple of years ago I chose to buy LR6 rather than rent Lightroom CC, as I did not fancy the monthly payments. Because I own a Nikon and an Olympus and use them side by side it made sense to use LR6 rather than the free processing software offered by both companies (I didn't like either anyway). I have all the lenses I require and as both cameras represent the latest offerings in their niche, I will not be upgrading in the forseable future. So, in fairness, this news should not affect me. As an aside, someone who's blog I follow recently attempted to cancel his LR CC subscription and it made amusing reading. It took him some time to persuade 2 x Adobe call centre operators (yes, it took two lengthy phone calls - no facility to do so on-line) that he really did want to cancel his subscription.
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You rent software either way. In once scenario you pay up front for a license, which is all you really own. When it is replaced with a new version, you need to pay again for the upgrade.
The other scenario you can pay up front or monthly - $120/yr or 10/month. Oh, and it is much cheaper, and you don't have to order the upgrade and pay extra for it when it becomes available. The irrationality behind not wanting to "rent" software is baffling - especially because it is cheaper. I have found great benefit for each new version of all the software I use. Some are content to use 7 yr old software on 10 yr old computers to process images from 12 yr old cameras. Not me.
larrylee wrote:
Adobe is not going to sell any more DVDs or offer updates for light room! They will only continue lightroom in the cloud for a monthly fee. I sure hope this won't extend into Photoshop and Elements. I personally don't want to have to go on to the net to process my work, and am not wanting to be herded into that corral like livestock. Yes I understand it's my 82 years pushing back at new technology, but I just wanted to vent: Larry
Sorry, Larry; I guess you were not allowed to vent. It appears you do not fit the mold of some of the people who felt it necessary to chastise you.
Bloke
Loc: Waynesboro, Pennsylvania
With the number of times this point has been raised on here, I find it unbelievable that anyone still thinks that Lightroom CC is processing "on the cloud"... Every few days someone comes on bemoaning the fact that they do not want to move 'to the cloud', and we all patiently explain (again!) that the program and all your data remain firmly on you computer, same as they always did!
I wonder, if someone wanted to waste their time searching, just how many times this has come up??? I use LR, and therefore I check out threads which mention LR, especially when they imply that it is 'going away' or something... Does nobody else bother checking threads?
Sorry if this seems like a rant... I am not getting at this OP in any way, but as a group, are we 'photographers who use LR' so blind to what is being posted around us???
Sheesh!
My CC has both Lightroom Classic CC on the desktop and Lightroom CC in the cloud, meaning images are stored online. This is where I have always stored my images (and exif data) - in a S3 bucket.
Yankeepapa6 wrote:
Sorry, Larry; I guess you were not allowed to vent. It appears you do not fit the mold of some of the people who felt it necessary to chastise you.
It's one thing if Larry wants to vent. It's another that Larry is totally inaccurate what he is venting about!
larrylee wrote:
Adobe is not going to sell any more DVDs or offer updates for light room! They will only continue lightroom in the cloud for a monthly fee. I sure hope this won't extend into Photoshop and Elements. I personally don't want to have to go on to the net to process my work, and am not wanting to be herded into that corral like livestock. Yes I understand it's my 82 years pushing back at new technology, but I just wanted to vent: Larry
By January 2018, LR will be an orphan, but there are lots of alternatives. I have CS6 and LR6, and I will continue to use them, but I also have ON1 and other programs. There are lots of good free programs.
Gene51 wrote:
You rent software either way. In once scenario you pay up front for a license, which is all you really own. When it is replaced with a new version, you need to pay again for the upgrade.
The other scenario you can pay up front or monthly - $120/yr or 10/month. Oh, and it is much cheaper, and you don't have to order the upgrade and pay extra for it when it becomes available. The irrationality behind not wanting to "rent" software is baffling - especially because it is cheaper. I have found great benefit for each new version of all the software I use. Some are content to use 7 yr old software on 10 yr old computers to process images from 12 yr old cameras. Not me.
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Not always cheaper and also need to consider time spent! I have the whole Creative Suite and that would cost $50 per month for subscription, so I'm staying with CS6 until something changes. When I was involved in advertising I had to keep up or perish! Now I don't upgrade constantly because it takes so much time, not only for programs, but operating systems to get things ironed out. Each upgrade involves learning curves and at times it seems I'm screwing around with computers more than creating images! In fact I don't upgrade until I absolutely forced to do so, and try to use the time for other things I enjoy, like making images. You may call me irrational, but I'm not the only one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOgFZfRVaww
I am amused at the paper, cable, electricity analogies. Really poor analogs. A paper and cable are lousy because you are getting additional value - more papers, more programs - whereas with LR you pay month after month for mostly the same program whether they change the program at all. Electricity is no good because you are NOT paying a monthly fee...you are paying monthly for the electricity you used, big difference. No, LR is more like buying a car. How many would like to HAVE to lease a car, not be allowed to buy one and keep it as long as you want before buying the next model? Not me. Not the vast majority of you.
blackest wrote:
To be fair they said
"We don't want [the name change] to be perceived as a lack of investment, or a lack of effort with that product. It is very good at what it was designed to do, which is manage files and folders on disk. All of those desktop-local workflows that photographers told us about during our first Lightroom Public Beta back in 2006, we are absolutely going to continue investing in. It's a different team."
There is no mention of how long they will continue investing and as indefinitely means as long as we feel like (for stand alone) it is no reassurance at all.
Currently Lightroom Classic requires OSX 10.12 Sierra. That's a forced upgrade until Apple won't let you upgrade anymore. Is adobe going to support older versions of lightroom classic when a new version of OSX comes out?
They forced an OS update between 5 and 6 so it is likely they will continue to do so.
With Lightroom classic you are relying on Adobe's Servers to say carry on every couple of months, as soon as they decide it isn't what they want to do, it stops working.
But you should be ok with Lightroom classic , for a while anyway.
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They also said they would never not have a perpetual license when they released CC two years ago.. Short memory..
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