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Nov 10, 2017 01:25:55   #
whitewolfowner
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
I could be wrong, but I think it would be fairly safe to assume that most photographers what would spend $3K plus for a D850 would be knowledgeable and smart enough to test the camera and their lenses rather than just taking as gospel what Nikon lists. Obviously you are and other D850 interested photographers probably are too. I think one always need to look to separate marketing hype from facts, especially when spending what for many would be a significant amount of money. I spent months learning about cameras I was considering buying before actually spending my hard earned money.

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Todd Ferguson
I could be wrong, but I think it would be fairly s... (show quote)




You haven't been on this forum long, have you?

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Nov 10, 2017 01:29:41   #
whitewolfowner
 
Festus wrote:
I agree with you David. It is a moronic rant! Whitewolfowner has no idea what he is talking about! Both Nikon and Thom Hogan are "suggesting the best lenses for the Nikon D850". They're listing lenses that are technically better than other Nikkor lenses. Neither one is saying that other Nikkor lenses will not work.



This is where you are wrong. There dozens of older lenses that are better than some of those listed. I'll bet the list is made up of the ones that are most backed up in stock.

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Nov 10, 2017 01:30:25   #
whitewolfowner
 
RWR wrote:
I might have added that I’ve not seen where Nikon has said that any lens not on their list would not also be satisfactory. Undoubtedly there are many older Nikkors and third party lenses perfectly suited for use on the D850.




And that is my point exactly.

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Nov 10, 2017 01:31:59   #
whitewolfowner
 
mleuck wrote:
If you fall for Nikon's "marketing" tactics, you are a fool! I use many of Nikon's past great lenses (on D810) with outstanding results. Historically, autofocus (though a great option) was a tactic to get people to "upgrade" Many of my manual focus Ai-s lenses are far, far better than today's "high tech" plastic lenses.

Don't be a sheeple and be get fooled by "marketing" !



Finally, another person that knows the line up and the truth.

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Nov 10, 2017 01:40:45   #
whitewolfowner
 
mikeroetex wrote:
Oh please, only someone extremely naive thinks that a recommended list is a mantra. My sports car manual "recommends" only premium, high octane gasoline. That doesn't mean it won't run just fine on regular. Can I notice a bit of difference ion pickup between fuels? Sure... if i jam the accelerator to the floor. But normal everyday use, imperceptible change. Same with "recommended" lenses. Unless of course you think BMW has pulled the automobile scam of the century!



Compare your gas mileage between the premium and regular. My point here is that there is more than one side to a story, and yes, it's not naiveness, it's new people trying to learn and seeing that list and falling for the bull. That is the people I am alerting. Some people have budgets and spending money on camera gear is a serious venture for them and they take a long time saving the money for it. NOt like so many here who order something new every day to satisfy their.....who knows what....

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Nov 10, 2017 07:31:16   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
Compare your gas mileage between the premium and regular. My point here is that there is more than one side to a story, and yes, it's not naiveness, it's new people trying to learn and seeing that list and falling for the bull. That is the people I am alerting. Some people have budgets and spending money on camera gear is a serious venture for them and they take a long time saving the money for it. NOt like so many here who order something new every day to satisfy their.....who knows what....
Compare your gas mileage between the premium and r... (show quote)


With all of the information being written by trusted reviewers, and videos showing comparisons, do you really think your rant is going to make one bit of difference. If you had wanted to be helpful you would have done some research and posted some real information.

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Nov 10, 2017 08:11:19   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
Brucej67 wrote:
I have the Zeiss Milvus 85mm f/1.4 for Nikon and found it to be not good for photographing children ...

A knowledgeable photographer would not expect a manual focus lens to be suited for action photography.

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Nov 10, 2017 08:21:28   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
I have seen photographers (Dustin Abbott) able to handle manual lenses for action shots, but I can't. At 72 years of age my reaction time has slowed down considerably and even with auto-focusing lenses I find that my photo keepers are becoming less and less, however if I get an adult to pose for me the Zeiss nails it.

Leitz wrote:
A knowledgeable photographer would not expect a manual focus lens to be suited for action photography.

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Nov 10, 2017 08:49:59   #
Leitz Loc: Solms
 
Brucej67 wrote:
I have seen photographers (Dustin Abbott) able to handle manual lenses for action shots, but I can't. At 72 years of age my reaction time has slowed down considerably and even with auto-focusing lenses I find that my photo keepers are becoming less and less, however if I get an adult to pose for me the Zeiss nails it.

I can relate. For anything faster than a snail, my manual focus lenses stay in the bag!

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Nov 10, 2017 09:52:30   #
travelwp Loc: New Jersey
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
There dozens of older lenses that are better than some of those listed. I'll bet the list is made up of the ones that are most backed up in stock.


True. Some of the old manual lenses are much better. By the time lens makers add VR and autofocus some of the new lenses have added an additional 8 pieces of glass that the light has to wade through.

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Nov 10, 2017 10:32:47   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Leitz wrote:
A knowledgeable photographer would not expect a manual focus lens to be suited for action photography.


Before we had auto focus lenses, all that was available was manual focus. Knowledgeable photographers used them exclusively to capture action photography.

http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/core60-action-sport-football-1960s.html

We had no alternative but to use what we had back then.

On the other hand, a knowledgeable photographer would not make such a statement . . . Just sayin'

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Nov 10, 2017 10:39:42   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
mikeroetex wrote:
Oh please, only someone extremely naive thinks that a recommended list is a mantra. My sports car manual "recommends" only premium, high octane gasoline. That doesn't mean it won't run just fine on regular. Can I notice a bit of difference ion pickup between fuels? Sure... if i jam the accelerator to the floor. But normal everyday use, imperceptible change. Same with "recommended" lenses. Unless of course you think BMW has pulled the automobile scam of the century!


On the other hand, you can seriously damage an engine in short order by using a fuel that has a lower octane rating than recommended. While it "may" run on regular, it is usually a really bad idea.

Have you ever seen what detonation and pre-ignition does to an engine?

http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/detonation-preignition-tuning.html

It's one of the reasons why I would never buy a used BMW Mini Cooper - idiots insist on running them on regular gas, ignoring the pinging and preignition, and in essence destroying the engine. I would doubt a car that requires premium gas would run "just fine" on regular.

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Nov 10, 2017 12:02:31   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
whitewolfowner wrote:
I'm posting a warning to those who could be taken in by this bull and spend a fortune when they didn't have to in most cases.


Do you have anything nice to say about Nikon?

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Nov 10, 2017 12:14:11   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
Gene51 wrote:
On the other hand, you can seriously damage an engine in short order by using a fuel that has a lower octane rating than recommended. While it "may" run on regular, it is usually a really bad idea.

Have you ever seen what detonation and pre-ignition does to an engine?

http://www.nicoclub.com/archives/detonation-preignition-tuning.html

It's one of the reasons why I would never buy a used BMW Mini Cooper - idiots insist on running them on regular gas, ignoring the pinging and preignition, and in essence destroying the engine. I would doubt a car that requires premium gas would run "just fine" on regular.
On the other hand, you can seriously damage an eng... (show quote)


Not as bad on newer cars where the computer can retard the timing enough to compensate. My Jeep manual says something like 89 ok while 91 recommended. I've never used 89, but plenty of people do.

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Nov 10, 2017 12:37:51   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Leitz wrote:
A knowledgeable photographer would not expect a manual focus lens to be suited for action photography.

There are whole collections of "action photography" predating the development of auto focus.

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