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Nov 7, 2017 21:56:37   #
glyphtrix
 
Rich1939 wrote:
What qualifications do you have that give you the credibility to determine what another person should have or have not asked? There are far too many posts in direct response to SS's question to believe it should have been asked in a manner that suits what you consider the right question. Your arrogance in this topic is reprehensible.


Since you asked..
I have documented, tested, analysis skills at the 96% percentile according to ONET
Occupational Testing. It's designed to measure skills and abilities and compare and rank them against other individuals on a national level .

Which means,
I'm in the top 4% percent of persons in this whole nation with the capability to understand, analyse and CORRECTLY respond to BOTH, the question as stated, AND to clarify or assert the relevant or appropriate question that apparently was INTENDED to have been asked by the op (or perhaps, ought to have been: according to the answers that he seems to be accepting- AS DEMONSTRATED by his bias in with his presupposed answer which I have outlined ad nauseam);
AND to furnish a correct answer.

MY position is also in agreement with multiple language reading members who have similarly concurred with my pronouncement;
AND OTHER HIGHLY SKILLED UHH MEMBERS AND PHOTOGRAPHERS WHOSE ANSWERS INDICATE
my position is more correct then the median replies have been.

Arrogance often belies intelligence.
I won't bore you with that particular quotient either.

To my shame, I often DO lack humility, civility and have little use or patience for stupidity in general.

None the less, NUMEROUS members have answered as I have indicated;
I have merely summed up the replies - in a different manner.

Its hard to be civil and even polite amongst people who can't comprehend at a high school reading level.

Sorry
Thanks for the behavioral criticism.



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Nov 7, 2017 22:00:09   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Ched49 wrote:
Now your starting to sound like a broken record.


What does that say about the membership of this thread? Seems that most don’t know what they are reading.

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Nov 7, 2017 22:00:24   #
Rich1939 Loc: Pike County Penna.
 
glyphtrix wrote:
Since you asked..
I have documented, tested, analysis skills at the 96% percentile according to ONET
Occupational Testing. It's designed to measure skills and abilities and compare and rank them against other individuals on a national level .

Which means,
I'm in the top 4% percent of persons in this whole nation with the capability to understand, analyse and CORRECTLY respond to BOTH, the question as stated, AND to clarify or assert the relevant or appropriate question that apparently was INTENDED to have been asked by the op (or perhaps, ought to have been: according to the answers that he seems to be accepting- AS DEMONSTRATED by his bias in with his presupposed answer which I have outlined ad nauseam);
AND to furnish a correct answer.

MY position is also in agreement with multiple language reading members who have similarly concurred with my pronouncement;
AND OTHER HIGHLY SKILLED UHH MEMBERS AND PHOTOGRAPHERS WHOSE ANSWERS INDICATE
my position is more correct then the median replies have been.

Arrogance often belies intelligence.
I won't bore you with that particular quotient either.

To my shame, I often DO lack humility, civility and have little use or patience for stupidity in general.

None the less, NUMEROUS members have answered as I have indicated;
I have merely summed up the replies - in a different manner.

Its hard to be civil and even polite amongst people who can't comprehend at a high school reading level.

Sorry
Thanks for the behavioral criticism.


Since you asked.. br I have documented, tested, an... (show quote)

Yes you are. I bow before your magnificence.

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Nov 7, 2017 22:04:16   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Nikonman44 wrote:
My thinking is if it pleases the client and you are proud of it then so be it


“So be it”is right, but that still doesn’t guarantee that the finished product is pro quality work. That was not what SS was trying to ask.

SS also did not ask about what makes a professional photographer professional.

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Nov 7, 2017 22:04:39   #
BFS Loc: Queen City, MO
 
SS, so are you saying that what one is looking for in a PRO/high quality photo is the composition of the photo in that it has a uniqueness that moves above just a shot of the subject? Or is there more? I know when I see photos that just grab the eye that they are far above what I shoot but I can not see what it is that makes it so. I was thinking it was the editing of the photos and the smoothness they had but now I'm questioning that to be the case.

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Nov 7, 2017 22:10:28   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
glyphtrix wrote:
Since you asked..
I have documented, tested, analysis skills at the 96% percentile according to ONET
Occupational Testing. It's designed to measure skills and abilities and compare and rank them against other individuals on a national level .

Which means,
I'm in the top 4% percent of persons in this whole nation with the capability to understand, analyse and CORRECTLY respond to BOTH, the question as stated, AND to clarify or assert the relevant or appropriate question that apparently was INTENDED to have been asked by the op (or perhaps, ought to have been: according to the answers that he seems to be accepting- AS DEMONSTRATED by his bias in with his presupposed answer which I have outlined ad nauseam);
AND to furnish a correct answer.

MY position is also in agreement with multiple language reading members who have similarly concurred with my pronouncement;
AND OTHER HIGHLY SKILLED UHH MEMBERS AND PHOTOGRAPHERS WHOSE ANSWERS INDICATE
my position is more correct then the median replies have been.

Arrogance often belies intelligence.
I won't bore you with that particular quotient either.

To my shame, I often DO lack humility, civility and have little use or patience for stupidity in general.

None the less, NUMEROUS members have answered as I have indicated;
I have merely summed up the replies - in a different manner.

Its hard to be civil and even polite amongst people who can't comprehend at a high school reading level.

Sorry
Thanks for the behavioral criticism.


Since you asked.. br I have documented, tested, an... (show quote)


Too bad it isn’t helping your photo skills. But don’t feel bad, most of us are in the same boat.

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Nov 7, 2017 22:18:15   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
tdekany wrote:
I had posted 4 different links to photos “I” consider pro quality. Is there anyone out there who would feel that some of the photos don’t qualify as pro quality? This really isn’t rocket science.


I didn't follow the links earlier, my bad, and did not comment on them. I think they are excellent examples, but for myself the value would be in why they qualify (or otherwise) as 'professional level', more so than our individual opinions of yes or no.

What are the attributes of professional level photography? Is it merely image quality, or is there something else?

We have had a number of good answers so far, and some that failed to address the titular question: "What Constitutes Professional Level Photography???"

I think there is significant value in this potential discussion if we focus on the attributes of professional level quality.

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Nov 7, 2017 22:39:30   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
Peterff wrote:
I didn't follow the links earlier, my bad, and did not comment on them. I think they are excellent examples, but for myself the value would be in why they qualify (or otherwise) as 'professional level', more so than our individual opinions of yes or no.

What are the attributes of professional level photography? Is it merely image quality, or is there something else?

We have had a number of good answers so far, and some that failed to address the titular question: "What Constitutes Professional Level Photography???"

I think there is significant value in this potential discussion if we focus on the attributes of professional level quality.
I didn't follow the links earlier, my bad, and did... (show quote)



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Nov 7, 2017 22:56:37   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
tdekany wrote:
I had posted 4 different links to photos “I” consider pro quality. Is there anyone out there who would feel that some of the photos don’t qualify as pro quality? This really isn’t rocket science.


TD, I haven't seen them yet. What page are they on, or post a link.
I'll be glad to say something.
I'm still on pg 6! LoL

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Nov 7, 2017 23:00:35   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Peterff wrote:
I
I think there is significant value in this potential discussion if we focus on the attributes of professional level quality.


Yes, I think so too!
Funny, because we've had 22 pages that haven't actually contributed anything, except may to establish what a pro is!
But this is about the actual images, not who took them !!
Cheers!
SS

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Nov 7, 2017 23:21:12   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Yes, I think so too!
Funny, because we've had 22 pages that haven't actually contributed anything, except may to establish what a pro is!
But this is about the actual images, not who took them !!
Cheers!
SS


OK, I'm not volunteering to do this, but we've had a number of suggestions about attributes.

Single image include lighting, composition, etc.

Multiple images include consistency, repeatability etc.,

Haven't seen too much yet about subjects, sports, portrait, street, macro, landscape etc.

How about collating the attributes that meet 'professional level' results by categories, those above and others?

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Nov 7, 2017 23:27:13   #
tdekany Loc: Oregon
 
glyphtrix wrote:
PLEASE ADVISE OF ANY OTHER RELEVANT, INSIGHTFUL, KNOWLEDGEABLE PHOTOGRAPHY SITES.
Seriously.


Sorry I missed this post.

www.fredmiranda.com

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Nov 7, 2017 23:34:13   #
canon Lee
 
To all .... I'm folding my hand, so deal me out. This conversation is just going in circles. Moving on folks!

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Nov 7, 2017 23:38:59   #
Motorbones Loc: Fair Oaks, CA
 
The word professional is rooted in the word profession which is indicative to the concept of belief and commitment. There are many people who claim to be professional 000.but as soon as you give them your money and they're gone
..WHAM... What you got was not what you paid for in quality... Ahhh...now there's that word... quality which is defined as meeting customers expectations or requirements. Ergo, a professional photograph is one that meets the expectations of whoever the picture is taken for. This usually means meeting the parameters of focus, composition, yada..yada..yada..
Professional quality can be defined as something of art, replication of a scene, or the capture or recording of an event.
Finally, how many people see a photograph and the first thing that pops into their head is.. WOW!!! What a professional looking photograph... Probably not very often...
In the long and short of it all, unless there's an established set of parameters established by some governing or professional body or individual... the only thing left that is consistent, is someone paying for the bloody picture. If so, then it is a professional photograph... All else is art, beauty, or story telling...

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Nov 7, 2017 23:48:26   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
canon Lee wrote:
To all .... I'm folding my hand, so deal me out. This conversation is just going in circles. Moving on folks!


Perhaps it is going in circles because the race has not yet begun. Very few have appeared to understand the essence of SS's question, and even fewer have addressed it in any meaningful way, yet SS has made it very clear what he intended to include and what he did not intend to include.

Perhaps it is simply reading comprehension 101.

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