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Dabe Loc: Southern Missouri, Ozarks

rehess wrote:

I refused to purchase a new computer until MS moved beyond Vista.

Dabe Loc: Southern Missouri, Ozarks

burkphoto wrote:

Vista WAS pure afterbirth on moldy toast...

Yes, it really was THAT BAD! I'm still a little sore with Microsoft for not giving me a free upgrade.

I fell just outside of their window of eligibility. There should have been no "window", they sold a defective product, an then abandoned it.

I guess Bill couldn't afford to do the right thing.

Dabe Loc: Southern Missouri, Ozarks

James Slick wrote:

I'd hate to imagine what the Windows ME equivalent would be!

I've heard that from several, but I actually had good luck with ME. It cured a couple of issues I never could get resolved with Win98, and ran very reliably for me until I upgraded to 2000. There may have been hardware compatibility issues with some machines that I didn't experience.

James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA

Dabe wrote:

I've heard that from several, but I actually had good luck with ME. It cured a couple of issues I never could get resolved with Win98, and ran very reliably for me until I upgraded to 2000. There may have been hardware compatibility issues with some machines that I didn't experience.

Perhaps I am being unfair as I only had 1 PC with with Win ME,, (A Compaq laptop that shipped with it new.) In my case it should have been called "Windows Blue Screen Edition" LOL, That would be Win BS! Ironically I manually "downgraded" it to Win 98 Second Edition, that worked fine on it! The biggest problem I had with Vista was it was slow as hell compared to Windows 7 (when ran on same hardware.) Windows 2000 also was fine but was overshadowed in the consumer world by XP (also fine version.).

Dabe Loc: Southern Missouri, Ozarks

James Slick wrote:

Perhaps I am being unfair as I only had 1 PC with ... (show quote)

My guess would be that Compaq was your biggest problem, they were bad to add in a lot of crap that would ruin a good operating system. But you were definitely not alone, I've heard of a lot of people who had trouble with Win ME. I had no end of problems with Vista. Microsoft would post fixes and workarounds, but they were never permanent fixes, the same problems would occur time after time. Win XP was great, and Windows 7 is still my favorite, I just wish some of my older software would run on it.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Dabe wrote:

My guess would be that Compaq was your biggest pro... (show quote)

I provide for older software via XP on an old HP computer that is isolated from the Internet

James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA

rehess wrote:

I provide for older software via XP on an old HP computer that is isolated from the Internet

I run Win XP (Not to mention WFW 3.11 and OS/2 for REAL old software!) in Virtual Box, "guest additions" will allow access by XP to a folder on host machine (Win 10 in this case.) to move files back and forth. (guest additions won't work with anything older than Win2000 IIRC.) I don't have the Win XP (or 3.11 or OS/2) virtual machines connected to my network or the internet, There's no updates for thes OSs ,so no need to risk them being "live" on line.

James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA

Dabe wrote:

My guess would be that Compaq was your biggest pro... (show quote)

I can't really comment on Compaq, generally as literally ever other machine I've owned (that wasn't CP/M or MacOS) have been IBM then Dell. My first Microsoft OS was naturally DOS, My favorite Windows versions were WFW 3.11, Win98se, XP an 7 - Seems to be that it has been to get a Microsoft OS right before the newest one! - However I'm happy with Win10. Not a fanboy thing, I also have a MacBook and a Linux (Ubuntu) laptop too. They all have their strengths and quirks!

James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA

James Slick wrote:

I can't really comment on Compaq, generally as literally ever other machine I've owned but that ONE (that wasn't CP/M or MacOS) have been IBM then Dell. My first Microsoft OS was naturally DOS, My favorite Windows versions were WFW 3.11, Win98se, XP an 7 - Seems to be that it has been to get a Microsoft OS right before the newest one! - However I'm happy with Win10. Not a fanboy thing, I also have a MacBook and a Linux (Ubuntu) laptop too. They all have their strengths and quirks!

Android has it's quirks too. It just commented on my comment, rather than updating it. LOL! 😉

pete-m Loc: Casper, WY

I got an offer to update Aftershot which I accepted. About a week later I got an offer to update Paintshop with free Aftershot. Needless to say I don't plan to give that company any more money.

burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC

Dabe wrote:

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MS has a spotty, hit-or-miss history with their OS updates.

I could tolerate Win 95. Win 98 was just OK.

Win NT was too geeky for prime time.

Win 2000 was great... clean, fast, stable.

Win NT was initially a pile of dung, but turned into a very solid success over time (by Service Pack 3).

Vista was indecipherable, slow, buggy, bloated, and annoying. It didn't help that the hardware available to run it was too slow, in most cases!

Win 7 was a modernized version of 2000.

Win 8.x was hideous, if you were ever a Mac user. It was the epitome of Steve Ballmer's era... What were they thinking?

Win 10 gets high marks for refinement.

Bill_de Loc: US

Never had a problem with Vista ... probably because I never had it.

However, I was able to get ransomware off two of my friends' computers because of a glitch in the Vista startup routine. They were both told by two experts to get a new computer. Not being an expert, and since they were already prepared to buy new computers, I stumbled along until I hit on something. I was free to try anything with no consequences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTHRg_iSWzM

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blackest Loc: Ireland

Bill_de wrote:

Never had a problem with Vista ... probably because I never had it.

However, I was able to get ransomware off two of my friends' computers because of a glitch in the Vista startup routine. They were both told by two experts to get a new computer. Not being an expert, and since they were already prepared to buy new computers, I stumbled along until I hit on something. I was free to try anything with no consequences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTHRg_iSWzM

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Any expert says the cure for malware is to buy a new computer is no expert. usually if nothing else works reformat and reinstall.

James Slick Loc: Pittsburgh,PA

blackest wrote:

Any expert says the cure for malware is to buy a new computer is no expert. usually if nothing else works reformat and reinstall.

True, Malware damages software and files. If you've backed up your data and have install media for your OS and drivers (or can download them.) There's no reason to trash the actual hardware. Of course, said "experts" may have been in the business of SELLING computers! 😉

Dabe Loc: Southern Missouri, Ozarks

rehess wrote:

I provide for older software via XP on an old HP computer that is isolated from the Internet

I do the same thing, I have a small CNC machine running on an XP box. I keep all my old software that I still use, including some DOS based software, on that machine, and keep it off the internet. It all still works as well as it ever did, and I still get to use my old software. I tried the virtual machines, but it just doesn't work the same, or as well for me.