RRS Loc: Not sure

Well said!

Spirit Vision Photography Loc: Behind a Camera.

The Nikon F6 is perhaps the best 35mm film camera ever made. But the pictures from it are no better than the images from my 1978 Nikon FM body...

boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander

I don't care if a camera has 2945649 focus points or9343930. As I use 1 - spot focus

SteveR Loc: Michigan

You're kidding, right?

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

That's the thing. Photographers with lower end equipment might have to avoid conditions which are beyond their cameras' capabilities. Some photographers like to use toy cameras, pinhole cameras, or old full manual film cameras as a challenge to create good images with low tech equipment. Other photographers like to use high end cameras which allow them to make superior images under the most difficult conditions.

Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA

Interesting point that came up the other day in a trade magazine. Article about a very hot commercial director right now.
He said he is tired of the Arri Alexa hybrid video in movies and cable content. It is amazing and very real. I shows more dynamic
range so we see a lot more of what is around in the shadows etc. Beautiful stuff. He wants to approach look and technique with more creative decisions.
I watched 2 Netflix productions the last 2 weeks. One a French movie about a man returning to Paris to finish divorce of his wife and reunite with his children. I realized after a while that the filming was very raw and unpolished. The performances where great and at times very moving.
Then I saw Suburra the new series on the mafia in Rome. And had watched Gomorroh about the Naples mob. I realized why I felt these productions were different. They had all the street noise and the real sound of where the actors were performing. Suburra was more polished but not as good. But still very raw. It made the experience different.
So what am I saying. My camera's of recent years take sharp crisp replications of the scene. Only when you have shallow depth of field and some post processing do the photos take on a different look. Frank and Bresson's photos technically are not why they are classics. They are the subjects framing and creative moments and perservence that make them great.

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Then you wouldn't need a highly technical focus system for what you photograph. Each person needs to tailor his/her equipment for their own needs.

tnturk Loc: Gallatin Tennessee

No shit.

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

In that case it came down to the lens used - the sensor (film) in both cases was the same - not so in the world of digital cameras where the sensors would be different in terms of performance.

tdekany Loc: Oregon

So are you saying that the majority of the members have your skills? Because we both know that to be not the case. Personally I stopped looking at threads with photos in them on UHH because if I want to look at snapshots, I can just look at my on pictures. Not saying that there are only snappers on this forum, because that isn’t true, just that good stuff is very rare. However, one thing I noticed is that many of these technical “experts” with decades of experience don’t even notice that their horizons tilt. Will better dynamic range or exceptionally good high ISO fix that?

It’s your $$$, buy what ever pleases you, but don’t forget that to produce artistically better photos your camera can’t help you.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Steve, tell us what you know about focuszand points?
You're impressed by numbers more than performance.
I'll let YOU figure out why Canons out number Nikon's where the action is.
The Andreas are sooo close you'll never see a difference. And the Canon glass has more choices and the big glass weighs 20% less than Nikon.
The Nikon has 55 points in the same area as the Canon. But Nikon has a hundred small assist point inbetween the big points. Is that better, I couldn't tell you. But Pros still prefer Canons 2 to 1 at action venues.
The focus systems are pretty much identical. If you're impressed by the big number, go for one.
The Nikon only has 55 big focus points then fills in with the small assist points. Those points are not created equal.
Obviously there's a limit on the area since both cameras cover the same area. Impressive would be to have more in a larger area, but there seems to be a limit.
To answer your question, given the choice....., I'd leave the Lamborghini in the garage, like most Pros do!!!
SS

tdekany Loc: Oregon

That is why I wrote pro quality work. That includes everyone who can produce that type of quality. Yes, not every professional photographer produces pro quality work but what can you do?

tdekany Loc: Oregon

Ok, so let me change it to: top consumer quality cameras.

It doesn’t really matter what we call them, ARTISTICALLY the camera is useless. Will any camera tell you the right time to take the shot instead of pressing the shutter at 2pm in direct sunlight? Will your camera direct you to the best angle?

Steve, I understand that we all have different standards, but when you can look at amazing photos with just a couple of clicks on the net from all over the world, who are these people trying to fool with their technical mambo jumbo? Should they not agree with the OP, that if you have the eye, you can produce great work no matter the camera? All they have to do is look at their own work to see the lack of talent.

tdekany Loc: Oregon

Hey SS! If you had used a Nikon camera, you would have had better DR and could have gotten more detail out of those clouds.

Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb

Back to the basics, what is a good picture and what is a great picture. And is it for judging at a contest or for sale to the public (type of buyer--nature ---art--etc) or a advertiser. If you can take a "great" picture with your phone and you need it for a billboard , your out. That same picture with a good camera vs a great camera (What is good and great -- The price, pixels or maybe the lens).

What I am trying to say GIVE IT UP is about a dozen pages and I don't think you guys will make each other change your minds.

Have at it and have fun