Do you agree?
Oct 7, 2017 06:48:50 #
It is like telling the police officer when you are going twice the speed limit it is OK to break the rules once in a while.
Oct 7, 2017 07:19:20 #
fotoman150 wrote:
https://youtu.be/kqqEvnZ8I28
Photography has rules. Rules like don't always put the subject in center of the frame.
What we need to understand is that these rules are like any other rules of any system. Some can be bent. Others can be broken.
Knowing when and how to break the rules makes you a good photographer.
Now hit me. If you can.
Photography has rules. Rules like don't always put the subject in center of the frame.
What we need to understand is that these rules are like any other rules of any system. Some can be bent. Others can be broken.
Knowing when and how to break the rules makes you a good photographer.
Now hit me. If you can.
As a famous pirate said in Pirates of the Carribean, They are not necessarily rules, more like guidelines. Rules are hard and fast, guidelines are suggestions. In photography, your imagination is the only rule, everything else is a guideline. One person's over exposed or out of focus shot could be a masterpiece to someone else. Its just a matter of finding the person or persons that want a photo like that. The guidelines mainly tell us what the most people appreciate or want not what we want to shoot.
Oct 7, 2017 07:20:33 #
Billyspad wrote:
I have another question. Why does the ownership of a camera make people think the discussion of quite meaningless topics and questions, which allow for those so inclined to expel hot air, will provide anything of interest to those with more than one brain cell in working order?
It provides a perfect forum for those who take themselves too seriously.
Oct 7, 2017 07:53:09 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
It provides a perfect forum for those who take themselves too seriously.
Well said young Sir. Have you noticed that many of the folks who ask the dumb questions do not appear to actually take photographs? They never show them here on the Hog like the guy who started this pointless well worked and covered exchange of ideas.
Oct 7, 2017 07:56:03 #
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fotoman150 wrote:
https://youtu.be/kqqEvnZ8I28
Photography has rules. Rules like don't always put the subject in center of the frame.
What we need to understand is that these rules are like any other rules of any system. Some can be bent. Others can be broken.
Knowing when and how to break the rules makes you a good photographer.
Now hit me. If you can.
Photography has rules. Rules like don't always put the subject in center of the frame.
What we need to understand is that these rules are like any other rules of any system. Some can be bent. Others can be broken.
Knowing when and how to break the rules makes you a good photographer.
Now hit me. If you can.
I get it.
Oct 7, 2017 08:04:33 #
Yep - makes sense. And especially in the age of digital, when you can break the rules without spending money!
Oct 7, 2017 08:13:23 #
I get what you're saying, but doesn't UHH have to serve everyone from the guy who just opened the box to a seasoned image-maker? >Alan
Oct 7, 2017 08:23:12 #
I agree with SS, that's why we bracket our exposures just to bend the rules a wee bit.
SharpShooter wrote:
I'm not sure rules are meant to be broken.
Certainly a GOOD photographer can bend and break rules to advantage.
If a mediocre photographer does that, it will usually be with very mediocre results.
To say a rule is meant to be broken is to say that it has a breaking point, and that's just not the case.
Breaking rules is on a case by case study.
SS
Certainly a GOOD photographer can bend and break rules to advantage.
If a mediocre photographer does that, it will usually be with very mediocre results.
To say a rule is meant to be broken is to say that it has a breaking point, and that's just not the case.
Breaking rules is on a case by case study.
SS
Oct 7, 2017 08:37:50 #
I surely cannot hit you. In the judicial system if you brake a rule you could end up with a good fine or time in jail but not so in photography.
The photographic rules of composition when properly executed make our photography very pleasant to the eyes and I for sure try to achieve that. If the rules are going to be broken we better reach a compromise by which the photograph is still pleasant to the eye otherwise no matter the exposure or the editing, the resulting photograph will not be a pleasant one.
Try braking the rules with photographs to be exhibited in a competition. Unless your photograph meets their criteria of "pleasant composition" that particular photograph will never make it.
The photographic rules of composition when properly executed make our photography very pleasant to the eyes and I for sure try to achieve that. If the rules are going to be broken we better reach a compromise by which the photograph is still pleasant to the eye otherwise no matter the exposure or the editing, the resulting photograph will not be a pleasant one.
Try braking the rules with photographs to be exhibited in a competition. Unless your photograph meets their criteria of "pleasant composition" that particular photograph will never make it.
Oct 7, 2017 08:52:11 #
CloudyCoastPhotography wrote:
I absolutely agree!! But for me, easier said than ... (show quote)
Yes, I agree... I'm new at this and without the experimentation of so many photographers before me having learned what works best, I would fumble and shoot pictures with incorrect settings of which I would ware out my delete button because the pics were unacceptable even to the untrained eye, and not understand why the pic didn't look appealing. Beginning with a rule standardizes what is known to produce a good photo but then a bit of a shift in my settings may produce a great photo and the starting point was the rule. Even though I tend toward rule breaking I need to start with the rule and practice there until I understand how a shift in my setting would affect the final photograph. Then there is the subject, space, light, distance, color and my eye and a few other at the moment things that make a final decision as to a subtle setting that might produce a superb photograph. Phew... that wore me out!
Oct 7, 2017 09:18:21 #
Oct 7, 2017 09:46:30 #
Think of a chemist cooking with exact ingredients, and the chef who would use rules of ingredients as a starting point, and his taste buds and skill to "break the rules" and move a good meal to a great dish. The so called rules are a great starting point and once you understand them you will be able to modify them to propel you photography forward.
Oct 7, 2017 10:18:27 #
No, I disagree. They are not rules. They are guides.
--Bob
--Bob
fotoman150 wrote:
https://youtu.be/kqqEvnZ8I28
Photography has rules. Rules like don't always put the subject in center of the frame.
What we need to understand is that these rules are like any other rules of any system. Some can be bent. Others can be broken.
Knowing when and how to break the rules makes you a good photographer.
Now hit me. If you can.
Photography has rules. Rules like don't always put the subject in center of the frame.
What we need to understand is that these rules are like any other rules of any system. Some can be bent. Others can be broken.
Knowing when and how to break the rules makes you a good photographer.
Now hit me. If you can.
Oct 7, 2017 10:27:52 #
rmalarz wrote:
No, I disagree. They are not rules. They are guides.
--Bob
--Bob
Of all the books I read about photography they always refer to the rule of third not the guide of third.
Oct 7, 2017 11:17:23 #
fotoman150 wrote:
https://youtu.be/kqqEvnZ8I28
Photography has rules. Rules like don't always put the subject in center of the frame.
What we need to understand is that these rules are like any other rules of any system. Some can be bent. Others can be broken.
Knowing when and how to break the rules makes you a good photographer.
Now hit me. If you can.
Photography has rules. Rules like don't always put the subject in center of the frame.
What we need to understand is that these rules are like any other rules of any system. Some can be bent. Others can be broken.
Knowing when and how to break the rules makes you a good photographer.
Now hit me. If you can.
Photography has no rules other than the general esthetic rules that have their roots in Greco-Roman art, with some input from Oriental art. Composition and proportion are artistic universals.
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