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Oct 6, 2017 00:37:35   #
fotoman150
 
https://youtu.be/kqqEvnZ8I28

Photography has rules. Rules like don't always put the subject in center of the frame.

What we need to understand is that these rules are like any other rules of any system. Some can be bent. Others can be broken.

Knowing when and how to break the rules makes you a good photographer.

Now hit me. If you can.

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Oct 6, 2017 00:46:46   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
fotoman150 wrote:
https://youtu.be/kqqEvnZ8I28

Photography has rules. Rules like don't always put the subject in center of the frame.

What we need to understand is that these rules are like any other rules of any system. Some can be bent. Others can be broken.

Knowing when and how to break the rules makes you a good photographer.

Now hit me. If you can.

If you mean your title is nondescriptive, yes, I agree!

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Oct 6, 2017 03:03:27   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
fotoman150 wrote:
https://youtu.be/kqqEvnZ8I28

Photography has rules. Rules like don't always put the subject in center of the frame.

What we need to understand is that these rules are like any other rules of any system. Some can be bent. Others can be broken.

Knowing when and how to break the rules makes you a good photographer.

Now hit me. If you can.



The point of the rules is to know the rules so that you can know when to effectively break the rules.

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Oct 6, 2017 03:33:44   #
JeffDavidson Loc: Originally Detroit Now Los Angeles
 
Sounds good to me in more than just photography.

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Oct 6, 2017 03:44:03   #
Leicaflex Loc: Cymru
 
Rules are made to be broken.

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Oct 6, 2017 05:19:00   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Leicaflex wrote:
Rules are made to be broken.


I'm not sure rules are meant to be broken.
Certainly a GOOD photographer can bend and break rules to advantage.
If a mediocre photographer does that, it will usually be with very mediocre results.
To say a rule is meant to be broken is to say that it has a breaking point, and that's just not the case.
Breaking rules is on a case by case study.
SS

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Oct 6, 2017 06:11:21   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
If you look upon them as suggestions rather than rules, it begins to make much more sense. Rules stifle creativity, imagination and exploration. That's fine for some types of photography - for example, shooting passport photos. But for other types of photography, adhering to a strict system of rules will ultimately limit the artistic possibilities available to the photographer.

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Oct 6, 2017 07:11:00   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
rook2c4 wrote:
If you look upon them as suggestions rather than rules, it begins to make much more sense. Rules stifle creativity, imagination and exploration. That's fine for some types of photography - for example, shooting passport photos. But for other types of photography, adhering to a strict system of rules will ultimately limit the artistic possibilities available to the photographer.


Good answer

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Oct 6, 2017 14:28:18   #
speters Loc: Grangeville/Idaho
 
fotoman150 wrote:
https://youtu.be/kqqEvnZ8I28

Photography has rules. Rules like don't always put the subject in center of the frame.

What we need to understand is that these rules are like any other rules of any system. Some can be bent. Others can be broken.

Knowing when and how to break the rules makes you a good photographer.

Now hit me. If you can.

Yep, its a duh! But there's a lot more to it, to what makes a good photographer!

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Oct 6, 2017 14:56:48   #
cambriaman Loc: Central CA Coast
 
The rules are a starting place. They aid the photographer in getting acceptable composition routinely. Many times the best photo needs to break those rules to become exceptional. That what separates the good ones from the mediocre ones.

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Oct 6, 2017 15:52:08   #
BebuLamar
 
fotoman150 wrote:
https://youtu.be/kqqEvnZ8I28

Photography has rules. Rules like don't always put the subject in center of the frame.

What we need to understand is that these rules are like any other rules of any system. Some can be bent. Others can be broken.

Knowing when and how to break the rules makes you a good photographer.

Now hit me. If you can.


I agree with what you said. Not to the link to youtube. I hate that film.

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Oct 6, 2017 16:16:21   #
G Brown Loc: Sunny Bognor Regis West Sussex UK
 
fotoman150 wrote:
https://youtu.be/kqqEvnZ8I28

Photography has rules. Rules like don't always put the subject in center of the frame.

What we need to understand is that these rules are like any other rules of any system. Some can be bent. Others can be broken.

Knowing when and how to break the rules makes you a good photographer.

Now hit me. If you can.


If you break all of 'the rules' chances are you would have a poor image.
therefore you need to follow some and at the same time appreciate WHY you can bend a few to give your image an individual character.
When you read a critique of art (where most of the 'rules' come from) The 'breaking' of a rule is explained as being a necessary 'touch' or 'message' by those giving the critique. Hence critics are loved or hated.

We have all read a translated instruction manual...the words are correct but the context is wrong. At some level we are annoyed. We have probably read words in a book that we didn't quite understand - the context of the sentence allows us to guess the meaning. Learning new words is seen as being enjoyable ! So understanding WHY a photographic rule is 'changed' can give us a similar enjoyment or annoy us. Either which depends upon the artistic intent.

Of course the above paragraph only applies to those of us that have an understanding of language or photography (art).

Conclussion, 'The rules' give us a bland but acceptable image - to photographers or art lovers. Breaking the rules lets us know that there is a message or intent, by the artist, to make a point.

If you don't understand the rules....you will not 'get it'.

have fun

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Oct 7, 2017 05:48:48   #
Billyspad Loc: The Philippines
 
I have another question. Why does the ownership of a camera make people think the discussion of quite meaningless topics and questions, which allow for those so inclined to expel hot air, will provide anything of interest to those with more than one brain cell in working order?

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Oct 7, 2017 06:10:44   #
waegwan Loc: Mae Won Li
 
fotoman150 wrote:
https://youtu.be/kqqEvnZ8I28

Photography has rules. Rules like don't always put the subject in center of the frame.

What we need to understand is that these rules are like any other rules of any system. Some can be bent. Others can be broken.

Knowing when and how to break the rules makes you a good photographer.

Now hit me. If you can.


Do we bend and break rules or push them to the limit?

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Oct 7, 2017 06:19:38   #
CloudyCoastPhotography
 
I absolutely agree!! But for me, easier said than done. Let me explain. I’m by nature a “rule follower.” I’m the guy that reads instruction books for everything. I’m the guy that, in the beginning of learning photography, read a million articles and memorized/recorded in a notebook all these rules. I “needed to know” what shutter speed, ISO, aperture, white balance setting, focus mode, etc was used for what picture. If I was planning a portrait in sunlight, shade, indoors, etc, I had to have all the numbers and settings according to the “rules.” So I would pull out my notebook and take the photo. Very mathematical and to be honest, often very boring. The photo would be “correct,” according to said rules. And people would say “huh, what a nice photo. Yawn.” I had to “learn” to break the rules. To use them as a guide, a starting point, but to then deviate from them. It’s tough for a guy like me; I’m a chemist by trade and we science geeks follow rules. But I made myself do this and realized there is an art to all of this photo taking; that somewhere between numbers and settings, rules and artistic ability, lies great photography. So yes indeed, you have to bend and break these rules! Thank you for posing this question; it makes photographers think, and rethink, and that leads to excellent photos.

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