Dodging and burning in
Sep 26, 2017 21:46:14 #
TheDman wrote:
Yep. Open in ACR, make all the edits you want, open as smart object in PS, use all the adjustment layers you want, and you can always go back and make more ACR changes after the fact.
Sep 27, 2017 03:08:46 #
SusanFromVermont wrote:
How do you create a 50% gray layer?
PS CC 2017:
Layer Menu > New > Layer ...
A dialog box pops up. When you set the blend mode to overlay, it shows a checkbox at the bottom to allow you to fill with neutral (50%) gray.
Sep 27, 2017 05:12:04 #
hassighedgehog wrote:
The original version is totally unchanged if you "save as" as a new version, not "save". The advantage of using adjustment layers is that the transparency can be adjusted, but it is not really necessary to saving the original information.
True, but unless you want to have multiple versions of a file, the adjustment layer works more efficiently, plus it keeps file sizes smaller. You can adjust more than transparency - specifically blend modes, as well. And you can always use Smart Objects for revisiting previous edits.
Sep 27, 2017 05:12:22 #
SusanFromVermont wrote:
Isn't opening as a Smart Object in PS also a protection?
Yes.
Sep 27, 2017 12:06:04 #
hassighedgehog wrote:
Again, if you "save as" instead of "save" the new file shows up as: file number_edited-1.jpg (or however you save it). The original file number shows as: file number.RW2 (or however it was taken). Nothing is lost from the original.
I am not disagreeing with you about the save as, it's just that if you realize later after making a lot of other edits that the dodge or burn was a mistake, you have to go back and start from scratch losing all the work after the dodge . That's why they refer to it as destructive. The other methods discussed can be undone anytime without losing later edits, so they are nondestructive. Personally, just get the dodge or burn right before moving on, and all is good.
Sep 27, 2017 15:45:20 #
wesm wrote:
PS CC 2017:
Layer Menu > New > Layer ...
A dialog box pops up. When you set the blend mode to overlay, it shows a checkbox at the bottom to allow you to fill with neutral (50%) gray.
Layer Menu > New > Layer ...
A dialog box pops up. When you set the blend mode to overlay, it shows a checkbox at the bottom to allow you to fill with neutral (50%) gray.
Thanks! I never noticed the checkbox and use those new layers a lot!
Sep 29, 2017 11:39:52 #
I tried it with the layers, that is so much better that using the dodge and burn tools directly on the image. Thanks! I noticed a lot of the blend modes have that 50% option, including straight overlay. Do you ever choose something other than soft white?
Sep 29, 2017 11:47:49 #
TheDman
Loc: USA
bleirer wrote:
I tried it with the layers, that is so much better that using the dodge and burn tools directly on the image. Thanks! I noticed a lot of the blend modes have that 50% option, including straight overlay. Do you ever choose something other than soft white?
Soft Light, you mean. I use that and Overlay, which gives a stronger effect. I usually dodge with Overlay and burn with Soft Light. I haven't figured out the need for adding the 50% gray, in fact I'd rather not because when I dodge/burn on a transparent layer I can select the contents of that layer for further edits to the area that I've painted or the inverse.
Sep 29, 2017 15:08:56 #
Someone mentioned that the 50% made it transparent to the layer below. So over or under then darkens or lightens. I'm still learning though, it is endlessly deep.
Sep 29, 2017 15:12:44 #
TheDman
Loc: USA
bleirer wrote:
Someone mentioned that the 50% made it transparent to the layer below. So over or under then darkens or lightens. I'm still learning though, it is endlessly deep.
Transparent makes it transparent to the layer below too. Whenever you create a new layer, it is by default transparent.
Sep 29, 2017 15:31:57 #
bleirer wrote:
Someone mentioned that the 50% made it transparent to the layer below. So over or under then darkens or lightens. I'm still learning though, it is endlessly deep.
50% gray with a contrast blend mode of Overlay or Soft Light will make anything that is gray transparent. When you paint on the gray layer with a brush, darker/lighter than 50% gray, it will blend with and darken or lighten the layer below.
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/blending-modes.html
Sep 29, 2017 15:43:45 #
TheDman
Loc: USA
Gene51 wrote:
50% gray with a contrast blend mode of Overlay or Soft Light will make anything that is gray transparent. When you paint on the gray layer with a brush, darker/lighter than 50% gray, it will blend with and darken or lighten the layer below.
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/blending-modes.html
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/blending-modes.html
True, but that's the same thing as painting on a blank layer. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
Sep 29, 2017 16:05:05 #
I have been using Photo Explosion and finally found that there is a burn in and a dodge tool. Unfortunatey, I can't seem to find a way to chage the size of the burn tool, it seems to be a point, not a brush. Anyone familiar with this program?
Sep 29, 2017 20:01:53 #
TheDman wrote:
True, but that's the same thing as painting on a blank layer. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
When I open a normal empty layer, the burn and dodge tool has zero effect. With the soft light and 50% fill it does. Not sure why.
Sep 29, 2017 20:03:28 #
TheDman
Loc: USA
bleirer wrote:
When I open a normal empty layer, the burn and dodge tool has zero effect. With the soft light and 50% fill it does. Not sure why.
You don't use the burn and dodge tool, you simply paint with a dark or light color.
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