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Sep 24, 2017 09:47:59   #
Hank Radt
 
4OX wrote:
I took a studio class from a pro who uses Capture One. Any thoughts? Anyone else use it?


I use it - I got a significant discount from Sony for buying a Sony Camera (they have a deal with C1) and I like it. You can see a couple of my recent photos here: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-486849-1.html, all processed with C1. I also bought it because it is a one-time purchase, v. a subscription fee and because it is pretty highly rated (wouldn't have bought it just for the price though, that, with the high ratings, made the decision):

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phase-one-capture-one-pro-10
http://www.techradar.com/news/photography-video-capture/cameras/best-photo-editing-software-1284627
http://4bcokm12bvu948gi7312gnab-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/Lightroom%20vs%20Capture%20One%20Pro.pdf (good comparison in Photoshop User magazine).

I've been pleased with the support - they are quick to answer my questions (fair warning, I'm a digital newbie recently having re-taken up photography after several decades, with my prior experience in the darkroom with film).

All that said, I have friends who use Lightroom and are quite pleased with that as well.

You can try it out for 30 days for free, to see if it meets your needs, here: https://www.phaseone.com/en/Download.aspx

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Sep 24, 2017 09:55:41   #
wapiti Loc: round rock, texas
 
sodapop wrote:
It's because they are the top two.



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Sep 24, 2017 10:37:06   #
Edia Loc: Central New Jersey
 
The best PP software is the one that does what you need to do, that you know how to use it and costs what you can afford to pay. Everyone here has a favorite program that he swears is the best but that is so subjective that the ranking has no value. As for the so called "big 2", they are the big 2 because they were there first and more people know how to use them. It doesn't mean that they are better than anyone else out there. All the major players will do an admiral job of PP. Find one that you like and learn how to use it and you will be fine.

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Sep 24, 2017 10:46:04   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
Gene51 wrote:
Loren, <snip>...
And this is a screen shot of my desktop workstation:


Great reply and I Love the desktop!

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Sep 24, 2017 11:19:40   #
SusanFromVermont Loc: Southwest corner of Vermont
 
rlv567 wrote:
I’d like the experts’ opinions as to which of the following programs is best for very general post processing. I’ve taken cursory looks at several, used stand-alone, and rank them in order of my view of the finished product (viewing at 100% up to 500% in IrfanView, and starting from a single good original). The distinction in ranking the top three is not that easy to discern: ON1 Photo Raw 2017, Paint Shop Pro X9, Topaz Studio, Photomatix Essentials and Franzis Sharpen Project.

I do know that most here have their favorite software, but would appreciate any comments on those programs I have listed - I do not use either of the two most consider most popular, and do not intend to.

Should it make any difference, my current cameras are Canon PowerShot G16 and Canon 70D with several Canon lenses, including the “Nifty 50”, the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM, the EF-S 10-18mm IS STM and the EF 70-200mm f/4 L IS USM. (My first digital camera was the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-F717; my first SLR was the Pentax K1000, for which I did my own processing and printing.)

I guess I’m more than just an amateur – take a lot of pictures – but never have tried to market anything. I’m in process currently of culling through 157,000 pictures, eliminating many duplicates as well as those no longer of any interest. I have software to do that, but it still is very time consuming.

Loren – Glendale, AZ and Baguio City, Philippines
I’d like the experts’ opinions as to which of the ... (show quote)

I do not know anything about any of those programs, I use LR and PS [Adobe CC Subscription, $9.99 per month]. On this site you will get a lot of varying opinions, and links to websites for information. There have been plenty of threads on this topic, which it may help you to investigate. There are some free programs that come highly recommended, but you will have to research the threads to find them - I don't remember!

Good luck finding the one that fits your needs. Also, don't forget to look for free trials which are often the BEST way to decide if this program will work for you.

Susan

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Sep 24, 2017 11:33:22   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
4OX wrote:
I took a studio class from a pro who uses Capture One. Any thoughts? Anyone else use it?


I used it for a while while I was evaluating a replacement for Aperture in 2014. I had a trial version, Ver 7 I think was the number, and was also evaluating the Adobe CC. I liked Cap1 because it had a nice bright rendering engine. I liked Adobe because of all the community support that was available.

After 30 days I was still undecided, so I bought both Cap1 ver7 and a CC subscription. A few months later, I purchased a new camera. There was no support in Cap1 version 7 for my new camera. No problem, they will send an update, right? No. I contacted them, they replied if I wanted support for my new camera, I had to buy Version 8. This was only a couple months after I had purchased version 7, which was the only one available at the time. About that same time Adobe pushed out a (free) update on the CC, that added my new camera to ACR. I have not used Cap1 since.

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Sep 24, 2017 11:46:22   #
poppizel
 
I use and recommend it. In my opinion, it produces a superior output on raw conversion, the tools fall easy to hand, and dm is quite flexible and easy to use. The upfront investment is worth it in terms of use. But it is a tool and has not made me better at making pictures but it always more than keeps pace as I try. For me it has been ranked number one. Other tools, such as light room are fine but for me did not work out as well nor satisfy as much a capture one pro.

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Sep 24, 2017 12:13:13   #
MidnightManiac
 
When I started out used the software that came with my camera, it served me well. Wanted more so started using the free versions of many other programs, just to give them a test ride, some were good and some not so good. Next up I purchased Lightroom 2.7, loved that program, seemed to do all of what I needed to do. Next up wanted more so I got Gimp, it's open source GREAT a free Photoshop, what a learning curve that sucker was. Years ago Adobe offered an old version of Photoshop for free, not sure if they still do that. Used that until I got a new computer and it was not compatible with it. Picasa I believe has a free program,which is OK. Today use Adobe CC, Lightroom, Photoshop and never have to worry about updating as the updates come automatically. New camera comes out and BANG updated. For $9.99 a month in my opinion it's a great deal as you will never have to upgrade and will have the latest a greatest. The cost of this for a month is what a 6 pack of Stella costs LOL...Good luck on your hunt, research and free trials are always a great option to test drive a program.

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Sep 24, 2017 12:58:12   #
4OX
 
Thanks for all the input!

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Sep 24, 2017 14:21:46   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Hank Radt wrote:
robertjerl, I'm interested in your comments on PaintShop. I have CaptureOne, thanks to a substantial discount from Sony, which works for me as a cataloger and basic image processor. But as you noted, there are some things a cataloger (be it C1 or LR or...) just can't do. Photoshop has always been the gold standard, but the subscription format doesn't appeal to me, at least in the near future as I re-acquaint myself with all this new digital photography (I learned in the darkroom some decades ago) and try to master the equivalent of both a whole new language and culture - a bit overwhelming at times for an old guy. I've been looking at image processors and PaintShop seems pretty highly recommended, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. Since you have experience with both PSs, would love to hear your views on how PaintShop stacks up.

Thanks.
robertjerl, I'm interested in your comments on Pai... (show quote)

As stated the tight integration of LR & PS hooked me. There are still some things I prefer in Paint Shop Pro - their version of splitting a single RAW file to achieve an HDR type look when you didn't shoot bracketed shots for doing pure HDR is at the top of my list.
You can do pretty much everything in PSP that you can do in PS. It is just different, and a few PSP features are not in PS at all and the other way around. Now the latest version I have is PSP X8, 2 versions out of date. I understand the new versions are better with more features and faster, they claim faster than PS. Corel has a huge list of programs in the photo/graphic/video realm: http://www.corel.com/en/all-products/ and in general they are less expensive than Adobe. The latest ones come in a choice of perpetual license purchase or subscription. PSP integrates with AfterShot* (Corel's answer to LR) just like LR-PS integrate. But again "different". On Corel's site there is a tab at the top that says "learning" that leads to two tabs 1)"Discovery Center" with guided tutorials to learn Corel products, and 2)"tutorial" tab if you prefer to browse on your own and a great number of videos etc on line. Here is the Corel Photo Editing page without the other stuff: http://www.paintshoppro.com/en/products/?hptrack=mmpsp&_ga=2.59099181.1464092414.1506275774-113289927.1506275774

They have free trials of all the programs

*I haven't learned AfterShot so can't testify to how it works, but reviews seem to show that when compared to LR it is just "different" with some advantages and some disadvantages. Why haven't I learned it, well I had been using LR for a couple years when I got AfterShot as a bundle with PSP X8 and over 30,000 images in LR just looked like too big a hassle to convert.

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Sep 24, 2017 17:55:29   #
cyclespeed Loc: Calgary, Alberta Canada
 
I bought it, since it would let me tether my Sony a6000. I could not for the life of me get to first base with it. Even the file system was bewildering. I bought the only book for it by a Swiss gentleman but it dealt with pro's precessing sequences and started way over my head.
Now I use Luminar and love it.
This winter some cold day I'll go into Lynda.com and try a second time to get a handle on Capture One. I have version 8.3 I was impressed with how my few tethered shots came out with no adjustments. Someone here told me it is because Sony and Phase One are tightly aligned.
I'd like to say yes to your question but not there yet.

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Sep 24, 2017 19:00:00   #
Dennis833 Loc: Australia
 
Capture One Pro. But it's expensive. If you shoot with a Sony camera get the for Sony version.

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Sep 24, 2017 19:15:04   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
rlv567 wrote:
I’d like the experts’ opinions as to which of the following programs is best for very general post processing. I’ve taken cursory looks at several, used stand-alone, and rank them in order of my view of the finished product (viewing at 100% up to 500% in IrfanView, and starting from a single good original). The distinction in ranking the top three is not that easy to discern: ON1 Photo Raw 2017, Paint Shop Pro X9, Topaz Studio, Photomatix Essentials and Franzis Sharpen Project.

I do know that most here have their favorite software, but would appreciate any comments on those programs I have listed - I do not use either of the two most consider most popular, and do not intend to.

Should it make any difference, my current cameras are Canon PowerShot G16 and Canon 70D with several Canon lenses, including the “Nifty 50”, the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS STM, the EF-S 10-18mm IS STM and the EF 70-200mm f/4 L IS USM. (My first digital camera was the Sony Cyber-shot DSC-F717; my first SLR was the Pentax K1000, for which I did my own processing and printing.)

I guess I’m more than just an amateur – take a lot of pictures – but never have tried to market anything. I’m in process currently of culling through 157,000 pictures, eliminating many duplicates as well as those no longer of any interest. I have software to do that, but it still is very time consuming.

Loren – Glendale, AZ and Baguio City, Philippines
I’d like the experts’ opinions as to which of the ... (show quote)


When you try to define "best" you run into trouble. The "Best" is the one that works best for you and what you want to do with it. I have several photo editing programs and the one that is still "best" for me is one I have been using for years, called "Photoimpact 10". If it does everything you need and it is easy for you to handle, then it is the "best".

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Sep 24, 2017 19:33:34   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
rlv567 wrote:
Thanks all, for the suggestions and comments. I'm still in process of coming to a reasonable decision as to what two or three programs will do the best job for me. I did not - do not - use the "Big 2" because the cost is too much for me; I live on my Social Security, one of the two reasons I moved to the Philippines.

My daughter graduated from UC Riverside in 2006 as an Art major, then decided she would become a professional photographer - at which she is exceptional - and covers the country from Palm Springs. She uses primarily the "Big 2". I have been using PSP since before it became Corel, ON1 more recently, and have tried a number of other programs, some OK and some not so much, probably a dozen at least. I intend to continue to check, but want to come to a conclusion soon.

Again, thanks to everyone for the input.

Loren
Thanks all, for the suggestions and comments. I'm... (show quote)


With a 157,000 photo's to sort, you might use a 30 day trial of lightroom and let it build a folder structure for you it will organise by year and date.
If you have a number of versions of the same file they will end up in the same folder together if they are an exact duplicate then just one would be brought in. Personally I like my stand alone copy of lightroom but even a trial copy should help a lot with the initial gathering and sorting.

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Sep 24, 2017 19:46:44   #
frjack Loc: Boston, MA
 
4OX wrote:
I took a studio class from a pro who uses Capture One. Any thoughts? Anyone else use it?


Trying to use it. Like the post-processing but the cataloging is not easy. Some stuff downloaded into the folders I wanted and is accessible. Other stuff is not. Frustration levels are zooming. The You Tube instructional videos are confusing and don't give the basic info. Some of the presenters are too self-involved with cute asides. Instruction book is not helpful. Again no good basic instruction in how to set up a catalog and/or session. Most problematic is it is unclear how to use on an external hard drive. Once I can reliably download and catalog I will like it. Very happy with the filters etc.

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