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Sep 17, 2017 09:10:26   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Octagon wrote:
Image can be improved significantly in Photoshop CS6 by using - Filter - Noise - Despeckle


That actually looks really good to me.

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Sep 17, 2017 09:13:10   #
cthahn
 
Very easy. Had the ISO turned up.

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Sep 17, 2017 09:14:36   #
Octagon
 
I tried to add an addendum to my earlier post, but it disappeared in the "aether". Here is my second try, a detail comparison of before and after "despeckle" in CS6


(Download)

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Sep 17, 2017 09:17:56   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Maybe some heavy handed PP to capture detail in the blown out sky?

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Sep 17, 2017 09:58:28   #
74images Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
kcooke wrote:
Here in Alabama the wedding shoot runs from $2200 to $4500 or more. This is usually a 12 hour day of shooting and includes images on thumb drive. I know this because my daughter was married two years ago. These figures are for quality professional work.


Hell... it's that Much in the Yellow Hammer State? I'd Expect Here in California, New York, Florida or Other Popular States But Never Alabama!

74images

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Sep 17, 2017 10:02:39   #
hangman45 Loc: Hueytown Alabama
 
74images wrote:
Hell... it's that Much in the Yellow Hammer State? I'd Expect Here in California, New York, Florida or Other Popular States But Never Alabama!

74images


Very few people will pay anywhere near that much in Bama

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Sep 17, 2017 10:02:51   #
74images Loc: Los Angeles, California
 
tinplater wrote:
Here is a typical example...I have uploaded the entire large file, when viewed full size in download you will see the problem! ISO 160 f1.4 1/2000 with Canon 5DMIII and 35mm 1.4 Canon lens.


I Would have to See More Photos Before I Make Judgement!

74images

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Sep 17, 2017 10:10:15   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
tinplater wrote:
For those who participated in my initial post about image noise in my son's wedding photos, I have learned that the images are NOT proofs but the final product, unfortunately. The couple was given a presentation box, a bottle of champagne, and the thumb drive with the noisy images. I did not ask if she was a professional or how they found her as their photographer because of the sensitivity of the issue (they are, at least on the surface, pleased with the images). They will not receive any prints, but are free to print their pictures from the drive. I am still mystified how 20mb images were made with quality equipment resulting in such noisy images. Thanks to all who have voiced an opinion or taken interest in this discussion.
For those who participated in my initial post abou... (show quote)


Looks like Lightroom grain slider was used, to me. Some sort of special effect that isn't special, perhaps???

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Sep 17, 2017 10:11:18   #
scheline Loc: Central California
 
Perhaps a bit off-topic (the photo and post-processing issues have been expertly addressed), but I am immediately and negatively impacted by the relative positions of the couple: The gentleman should always walk to the street side of the lady. Sorry for this curmudgeonly interlude; now back to the photography discussion.

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Sep 17, 2017 10:17:00   #
Psergel Loc: New Mexico
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I was editing yesterday images at ISO-5000 as well as the same ISO-2000 and ISO-160 examples posted here and the original post ... None of them show anything like these results. But, it's not apples to apples regardless of similar exposure parameters on the same camera model ... It's the processing that appears to be unique to this photographer ...

He should probably stay away from writing a book

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Sep 17, 2017 10:22:53   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
scheline wrote:
Perhaps a bit off-topic (the photo and post-processing issues have been expertly addressed), but I am immediately and negatively impacted by the relative positions of the couple: The gentleman should always walk to the street side of the lady. Sorry for this curmudgeonly interlude; now back to the photography discussion.


Yada yada... and behind her going up steps, and in front of her going down...

The last time I heard those "rules," was probably 50 years ago. But they stuck!

Maybe she thinks chivalry is total BS, as my wife does? Or maybe it's perceivable as sexual harassment towards males?

Gender roles and related customs are a land mine field of social debate...

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Sep 17, 2017 10:26:42   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
tinplater wrote:
For those who participated in my initial post about image noise in my son's wedding photos, I have learned that the images are NOT proofs but the final product, unfortunately. The couple was given a presentation box, a bottle of champagne, and the thumb drive with the noisy images. I did not ask if she was a professional or how they found her as their photographer because of the sensitivity of the issue (they are, at least on the surface, pleased with the images). They will not receive any prints, but are free to print their pictures from the drive. I am still mystified how 20mb images were made with quality equipment resulting in such noisy images. Thanks to all who have voiced an opinion or taken interest in this discussion.
For those who participated in my initial post abou... (show quote)


You mentioned two things, "sensitivity of the issue" and "they are pleased with the images".

My advice is let it go. Be happy that they are happy with the images. If you want to stay involved in their lives, it's time to keep your mouth shut and just be supportive.

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Sep 17, 2017 10:38:27   #
canon Lee
 
kcooke wrote:
Here in Alabama the wedding shoot runs from $2200 to $4500 or more. This is usually a 12 hour day of shooting and includes images on thumb drive. I know this because my daughter was married two years ago. These figures are for quality professional work.



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Sep 17, 2017 10:58:06   #
canon Lee
 
crazydaddio wrote:
3hrs editing? I am hiring you to do my PP... I agree no less than 1600 but i am getting minimum wage by the time its all done :-)


Hi Daddio. I use LR cc which cuts down on editing time. I usually shoot around a 1000 or so shots and use quick selections to sort out he keepers. Some jobs do take a bit more editing. but it is usually around 3 hours. It is hard for those that don't do weddings to know how long a shoot will take. Editing time is just a small part of the time spent. Pre wedding shots start at around 10am till the limo arrives, some wedding have long ceremonies like full masses or pastoral speeches, then it might be around 2pm and the reception is a drive away and doesn't start for another 4 hours. Receptions can go all night. I get to know the DJ or the mater de to get the traditional things going so that we can leave early. Its a full day and I'm tired and have hand cramps. I am very fast at PP have been doing it for yrs. I try to keep each shot in the ball park so that it is just a tweak that is necessary.
Aren't you upset at all the amateurs out there undercutting our prices?

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Sep 17, 2017 11:01:52   #
Elsiss Loc: Bayside, NY, Boynton Beach, Fl.
 
canon Lee wrote:
rehess True that a wedding reception doesn't take 10 hours. but since 1945 wedding shoots have changed, in that the shoot starts early in the day, before the ceremony, where photos are taken in the house, then phase 2 is at the church or venue, where pre ceremony shots are taken, then Phase 3 the actual ceremony ( sometimes with a full mass), phase 4 the reception. All in all about a 10hr day. Some receptions are too long I agree. Not many couples want wedding albums, but burned to a disc. Most weddings aside from the church are not formal. I edit around 300 shots to give either on a disc or photos, which takes around 3hrs. I charge for a full day. Some occasions there is a gap of time between the ceremony shoot and when the venue reception begins, resulting in waiting around, some times hours. I wonder if you have ever shot a full wedding? Congrats on being married 37yrs.
rehess True that a wedding reception doesn't tak... (show quote)


You are right on the money, canonlee

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