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Aug 21, 2017 17:39:04   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
selmslie wrote:
You implied that what you were seeing showed the difference in sharpness between raw and JPEG.

Now we know that it is: a. because you deliberately screwed up the sharpness/noise setting on your computer and; b. your camera's does lousy JPEG processing.

Either way you look at it you don't have much to brag about.


I screwed it up? Am I the Canon engineer that determined how much noise reduction to apply to jpgs?

You just can't bring yourself to admit you're wrong, can you.

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Aug 21, 2017 17:49:20   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
TheDman wrote:
I screwed it up? Am I the Canon engineer that determined how much noise reduction to apply to jpgs?

You just can't bring yourself to admit you're wrong, can you.

If you have not read the manual and figured out the proper settings, it's on you.

If you bought a camera after such a lousy review then you are not a smart shopper and its also on you.

If the review came out after you bought it then you jumped the gun and it's still on you.

Yes, you screwed up.

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Aug 21, 2017 17:56:49   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
selmslie wrote:
If you have not read the manual and figured out the proper settings, it's on you.


As DP review noted, changing settings doesn't fix the problem. You can't read at all.

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Aug 21, 2017 18:36:03   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
TheDman wrote:
As DP review noted, changing settings doesn't fix the problem. You can't read at all.

So you are throwing Canon under the bus. That means my other two comments still apply - whether you bought the camera after or before the reviews, it's on you.

Canon really does make good cameras even if you don't know how to use yours. You just need to be an informed consumer. And if you are stuck with the 5D III, learn how to use it.

I didn't mention my other 24MP digital, my Sony A7II. It's not as good as the D610 but it has other advantages - smaller, lighter and I can use my Leica lenses. It's still much better than your Canon 5D III and a lot less expensive. See the comparison of all three at https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Sony-A7-II-versus-Nikon-D610-versus-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III___996_915_795

Even my Nikon Df at 16MP is better than your 5D III: https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-Df-versus-Nikon-D610-versus-Canon-EOS-5D-Mark-III___925_915_795 Above ISO 800 it's better than the other three, despite the lower MP.

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Aug 21, 2017 19:11:38   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
selmslie wrote:
So you are throwing Canon under the bus.


Pretty sure DPreview did that. Do I have to copy and paste again? Are you really that illiterate? I guess so:

"Even at low sensitivities the camera's JPEG engine applies visibly destructive noise reduction which results in mushy low-contrast detail. This combined with the fairly aggressive default sharpening means at a 100% view the 5D Mark III JPEGs can have a slightly 'processed' look to them and fine-tuning image parameters such as noise reduction or sharpening doesn't help much."

I didn't write that, DP Review did. Go tell them they don't know how to operate their camera.

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Aug 21, 2017 19:26:27   #
selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA
 
TheDman wrote:
Pretty sure DPreview did that. Do I have to copy and paste again? Are you really that illiterate? I guess so:

"Even at low sensitivities the camera's JPEG engine applies visibly destructive noise reduction which results in mushy low-contrast detail. This combined with the fairly aggressive default sharpening means at a 100% view the 5D Mark III JPEGs can have a slightly 'processed' look to them and fine-tuning image parameters such as noise reduction or sharpening doesn't help much."

I didn't write that, DP Review did. Go tell them they don't know how to operate their camera.
Pretty sure DPreview did that. Do I have to copy a... (show quote)

Once more, did you read that before or after you bought your camera? Either way, you screwed up. You are not a wise consumer.

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Aug 23, 2017 14:49:02   #
wj cody Loc: springfield illinois
 
Haydon wrote:
Agreed that a camera profiled to the Sekonic 758 should give you the optimal settings. I'm bidding on one right now on ebay. The 858 is too rich for my blood.


i agree with your choice of sekonic. the 758 will give you everything and even more. so, from one old hartford boy to a refugee in ct. - good luck!

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Aug 24, 2017 03:57:36   #
wolvesaywe Loc: Hants England
 
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
If I am unsure of the exposure, I use my camera's Program mode to record what Nikon thinks is the perfect exposure. I transfer the settings into manual mode using the Mark 1 Brain Memory device, and adjust exposure compensation from there.


That is a very simple but great idea !

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Aug 24, 2017 06:49:41   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
wolvesaywe wrote:
That is a very simple but great idea !


Sure this is a workable idea. However there are a number of possible combinations that define a possible "proper" exposure. So, you really are left needing to understand the nature of the subject you are shooting and how that impacts the exposure variables.

Best,
Todd Ferguson

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