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Jul 26, 2017 20:46:21   #
tonyy Loc: New Zealand
 
Loving my XT2, an improvement on the previous model. I was in Hong Kong recently, very, very humid, and found condensation got INTO the camera. I expected condesation externally as usual in the tropics, but in this case, using the water resistant 2.8 16-55 lens, each morning I couldn't use the camera for at least 30 minutes to one hour.
I realise I could have used the plastic bag trick, but would have expected this camera could handle this.
The camera and lens are both new, what are your thoughts? I note the specifications say up to 80 percent humidity is tolerated, but with this camera I am surprised to have a fail.
Do you know if these cameras can be tested for this sort of thing?
Cheers
Tony

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Jul 26, 2017 22:05:40   #
PixelStan77 Loc: Vermont/Chicago
 
tonyy wrote:
Loving my XT2, an improvement on the previous model. I was in Hong Kong recently, very, very humid, and found condensation got INTO the camera. I expected condesation externally as usual in the tropics, but in this case, using the water resistant 2.8 16-55 lens, each morning I couldn't use the camera for at least 30 minutes to one hour.
I realise I could have used the plastic bag trick, but would have expected this camera could handle this.
The camera and lens are both new, what are your thoughts? I note the specifications say up to 80 percent humidity is tolerated, but with this camera I am surprised to have a fail.
Do you know if these cameras can be tested for this sort of thing?
Cheers
Tony
Loving my XT2, an improvement on the previous mode... (show quote)


Tony, Did you change lenses in that humidity or in a controlled air environment?

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Jul 26, 2017 22:10:23   #
rjaywallace Loc: Wisconsin
 
Weather and dust resistant is not the same as waterproof/dustproof a la military specs. If you require a waterproof camera, get yourself one of those plastic housings like Jacques Cousteau used.

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Jul 27, 2017 04:35:48   #
tonyy Loc: New Zealand
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
Tony, Did you change lenses in that humidity or in a controlled air environment?


Thank you for your intelligent reply Pixelstan, no I did not change lenses or open the camera up, it was not raining, just very humid. I would have expected to wipe the condensation off the lens only and start taking photos. The condensation must have got in thru the weather seals, I wouldn't have thought that it should.

Cheers

Tony

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Jul 27, 2017 04:40:39   #
tonyy Loc: New Zealand
 
rjaywallace wrote:
Weather and dust resistant is not the same as waterproof/dustproof a la military specs. If you require a waterproof camera, get yourself one of those plastic housings like Jacques Cousteau used.


Thank you for your reply rjwallace,
I was not underwater, Hong Kong is an island. I just thought my camera should have performed the same , if nor better than the other members of my group using their standard cameras.
My question relates to condensation entering my camera, I don't believe it should have, hence my question to knowledgable UHH members,

Cheers

Tony

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Jul 27, 2017 05:52:23   #
picsman Loc: Scotland
 
Hong Kong's humidity can easily be over 80% at this time of the year so the 80% tolerance is not enough for you.

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Jul 27, 2017 06:08:08   #
tonyy Loc: New Zealand
 
picsman wrote:
Hong Kong's humidity can easily be over 80% at this time of the year so the 80% tolerance is not enough for you.


Thanks picsman,
I was just a little surprised that the Fuji had problems and Canon and Nikon did not.

Cheers
Tony

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Jul 27, 2017 06:56:38   #
foathog Loc: Greensboro, NC
 
be careful when you go from air conditioning directly into the humid slop.====CONDENSATION.

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Jul 27, 2017 07:29:55   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
tonyy wrote:
Loving my XT2, an improvement on the previous model. I was in Hong Kong recently, very, very humid, and found condensation got INTO the camera.


In what part of the camera did you see the condensation?

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Jul 27, 2017 09:26:22   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
tonyy wrote:
Loving my XT2, an improvement on the previous model. I was in Hong Kong recently, very, very humid, and found condensation got INTO the camera. I expected condesation externally as usual in the tropics, but in this case, using the water resistant 2.8 16-55 lens, each morning I couldn't use the camera for at least 30 minutes to one hour.
I realise I could have used the plastic bag trick, but would have expected this camera could handle this.
The camera and lens are both new, what are your thoughts? I note the specifications say up to 80 percent humidity is tolerated, but with this camera I am surprised to have a fail.
Do you know if these cameras can be tested for this sort of thing?
Cheers
Tony
Loving my XT2, an improvement on the previous mode... (show quote)


The guy on YouTube who calls himself "The Angry Photographer" likes the Fuji X-T2 a lot, but he has one video in which he says don't believe the claims of water resistance and explains why. On the other hand, I was once caught in a light drizzle with the Fuji getting some water on it and I didn't experience any bad effects.

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Jul 27, 2017 11:52:33   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
tonyy wrote:
Thank you for your intelligent reply Pixelstan, no I did not change lenses or open the camera up, it was not raining, just very humid. I would have expected to wipe the condensation off the lens only and start taking photos. The condensation must have got in thru the weather seals, I wouldn't have thought that it should.

Cheers

Tony


You come out of an air conditioned space, which having been to H.K., I assume your hotel was. Your camera had been cooled down overnight and was at room temperature and relative humidity. Once outside, the temperature/relative humidity shock caused the cooler air inside your camera to heat and release moisture into the works.

When Fuji says the camera is "rated" to 80% Relative Humidity, that means it is guaranteed to work up to that point.

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Jul 27, 2017 12:04:56   #
rafikiphoto Loc: Spain
 
jerryc41 wrote:
In what part of the camera did you see the condensation?


This is the important point which I don't think has been clarified yet...

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Jul 27, 2017 12:43:30   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
rafikiphoto wrote:
This is the important point which I don't think has been clarified yet...


Yeah, still a bit hazy on that point.

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Jul 27, 2017 12:51:08   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
tonyy wrote:


Do you know if these cameras can be tested for this sort of thing?
Cheers
Tony


I think you just did!!! LoL
Cheers!!!
SS

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Jul 27, 2017 16:09:22   #
jackpinoh Loc: Kettering, OH 45419
 
tonyy wrote:
Loving my XT2, an improvement on the previous model. I was in Hong Kong recently, very, very humid, and found condensation got INTO the camera. I expected condesation externally as usual in the tropics, but in this case, using the water resistant 2.8 16-55 lens, each morning I couldn't use the camera for at least 30 minutes to one hour.
I realise I could have used the plastic bag trick, but would have expected this camera could handle this.
The camera and lens are both new, what are your thoughts? I note the specifications say up to 80 percent humidity is tolerated, but with this camera I am surprised to have a fail.
Do you know if these cameras can be tested for this sort of thing?
Cheers
Tony
Loving my XT2, an improvement on the previous mode... (show quote)

Air is a gas composed of oxygen, nitrogen, CO2, and other molecules, including molecules of H2O. A gas can pass seals where water droplets cannot. If the temperature remains the same, the H2O molecules in the air will remain as a gas. But number of H2O molecules is great (high humidity) they will condense into water droplets when the camera/lens temperature drops quickly (inside cool buildings). Your best bet is to place the camera with the lens still attached into a camera bag before entering the building so that the temperature of camera/lens changes very slowly. Doing so will allow the H2O molecules to reach a humidity equilibrium with those in the cooler environment and prevent or minimize condensation.

In the winter, going from inside to outside can cause the same problem. The solution is the same: Keep the camera in the bag until the temperature has had a chance to slowly equalize with its environment.

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