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Jul 15, 2017 08:32:30   #
PattyW60 Loc: Northwest Illinois
 
leftj wrote:
So how is it there was an over charge if it's one half of a double?


If you want the luxury of having a room to yourself, you're going to pay more for it. Think of it this way, two people splitting the cost of one room vs. one person paying for the room by themselves.

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Jul 15, 2017 08:51:53   #
Base_fiddle
 
To berchman - I too attended a photo workshop in NYC at the Javits Center 20+ years ago and when to a couple of the breakout sessions taught by experienced and recognized photographers. I knew less then than I do now and now I'm at best a neophyte. But my reaction was the same. The instructors were impressed by their abilities and were not capable of speaking to newbies who were in the workshop to learn basics. It's very difficult to conduct a workshop that is responsive to all, but it's no fun being the participant who walks away wondering why he/she spent the money.

I attended a photoshoot in Montana ten years ago and experienced a similar reaction - the instructors tended to work with people who were more proficient with cameras than those of us who weren't.

From what I've read on this blog, the comments made by old salts are much more valid, relative and helpful than sitting in a workout session and getting plowed over.

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Jul 15, 2017 09:09:51   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
Base_fiddle wrote:
To berchman - I too attended a photo workshop in NYC at the Javits Center 20+ years ago and when to a couple of the breakout sessions taught by experienced and recognized photographers. I knew less then than I do now and now I'm at best a neophyte. But my reaction was the same. The instructors were impressed by their abilities and were not capable of speaking to newbies who were in the workshop to learn basics. It's very difficult to conduct a workshop that is responsive to all, but it's no fun being the participant who walks away wondering why he/she spent the money.

I attended a photoshoot in Montana ten years ago and experienced a similar reaction - the instructors tended to work with people who were more proficient with cameras than those of us who weren't.

From what I've read on this blog, the comments made by old salts are much more valid, relative and helpful than sitting in a workout session and getting plowed over.
To berchman - I too attended a photo workshop in N... (show quote)


This was a workshop in street photography which was supposed to have a minimum of classroom sessions with mostly on the street sessions. There was no instruction from McCurry. He assigned his college age interns to accompany us on the street and they were useless. I was not a beginner. The only thing I "learned" was that if you want to get a candid shot don't ever meet the subject's eyes.

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Jul 15, 2017 11:59:29   #
TGanner Loc: Haines, Alaska
 
At the risk of running up against an AUP of the UHH, I would like to mention that I do offer workshops to the destination traveler to Haines Alaska. Singles vs doubles never an issue, level of expertise never an issue, as I work solely with individuals or couples who stay in our accommodations and tailor the experience to the desires of the individual. Aside from getting here, perhaps the most affordable workshops you will find anywhere, focusing on great landscapes and wildlife. More info at: https://timenspace.net/photography-workshop/

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Jul 15, 2017 13:07:36   #
joehel2 Loc: Cherry Hill, NJ
 
I've never heard of a tour operator dropping someone so close to the start date. He must have some other agenda. Extremely unprofessional behavior.

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Jul 15, 2017 13:43:57   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
Bobnewnan wrote:
I've been on a number of workshops since retirement and got some great pictures and training. But I ran into something different 'this week.
Paid my deposit and waited. Received the invoice and noted that I was charged for a single. Hadn't been asked and didn't want a single so when I paid the invoice I just deducted the single charge. Within a day got a reply that my payment was short and he noticed it was equal to the single charge. Wrote back and said I didn't want the single but I would get a check in the mail tomorrow.
Well he hit the roof and ranted he had never had a client like me and since I hadn't paid the full charge by the 90 day deadline, my reservation was cancelled, my credit card deposit refunded and my final check was voided (with a picture of the voided check) Said I should have said something when I got the invoice and implied it was my fault. Well, yes,
It was my misunderstanding, I didn't ask for a single so didn't expect to pay for one. Cost me the air fare and trip insurance but I've never run into someone with such a burr under his saddle. Sort of figured some buddy wanted to go on that workshop so he just dropped me and got his buddy. Probably better off for me, we'd probably spent to much time arguing about shutter speeds and f-stops! Lesson learned, read the invoice very carefully and know what you are buying.(that applies to anything)
I've been on a number of workshops since retiremen... (show quote)


You would do us all a service by revealing the identity of this "instructor". We can then avoid him/her.

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Jul 15, 2017 16:39:25   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
Hi, I go on a lot of workshops, all different types. I've gone with around 10 different instructors since 2010. Had some problems/issues with a variety of things at times, most not a deal-breaker although there is now one guy I will not go with again. I've certainly learned a lot about going to workshops, so much so, in fact, that I wrote an article on how to choose a workshop that meets your needs. You can find this article on my web site (I'm afraid to put in a link as that seems to get me "kicked off" the post), just do a search for Connie Cassinetto photography. I've found almost every workshop to be informative and helpful in one way or another. This year I'm going with Josh Cripps, Gary Hart and with Photography Breakthrough to Mammoth Lakes, Grand Canyon, and Italy. I would not want anyone to not go on a workshop because one person gets "shorted" on the deal in some way. Read the article and I think you will learn a lot about workshops and what questions to ask.

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Jul 15, 2017 17:19:27   #
StaneeRae Loc: Lincroft, NJ USA
 
There's a web site for this sort of thing - https://www.photographyworkshopreviews.com/

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Jul 15, 2017 17:38:55   #
ronichas Loc: Long Island
 
I too, would like to know who the tour operator was.

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Jul 15, 2017 21:51:41   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
And the answer is......????

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Jul 15, 2017 23:25:16   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
cjc2 wrote:
And the answer is......????


OP seems to be missing in action. Not good style.

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Jul 16, 2017 10:08:13   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
via the lens wrote:
Hi, I go on a lot of workshops, all different types. I've gone with around 10 different instructors since 2010. Had some problems/issues with a variety of things at times, most not a deal-breaker although there is now one guy I will not go with again. I've certainly learned a lot about going to workshops, so much so, in fact, that I wrote an article on how to choose a workshop that meets your needs. You can find this article on my web site (I'm afraid to put in a link as that seems to get me "kicked off" the post), just do a search for Connie Cassinetto photography. I've found almost every workshop to be informative and helpful in one way or another. This year I'm going with Josh Cripps, Gary Hart and with Photography Breakthrough to Mammoth Lakes, Grand Canyon, and Italy. I would not want anyone to not go on a workshop because one person gets "shorted" on the deal in some way. Read the article and I think you will learn a lot about workshops and what questions to ask.
Hi, I go on a lot of workshops, all different typ... (show quote)


Nowhere on your site can I find an article on workshops, and that includes your blog entries.

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Jul 16, 2017 11:05:50   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
berchman wrote:
Nowhere on your site can I find an article on workshops, and that includes your blog entries.


Sorry, too late to correct when I thought about it, sometimes the brain just does not fire corrrectly, go to the viathelens site, for lightroom training, not to my photo site. The address is with my signature on the reply.

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Jul 16, 2017 12:42:05   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
via the lens wrote:
Sorry, too late to correct when I thought about it, sometimes the brain just does not fire corrrectly, go to the viathelens site, for lightroom training, not to my photo site. The address is with my signature on the reply.


Got it. From my own experience, aside from the desirability of a small group, this, that you mentioned, is the most important criterion for evaluation of a workshop:"...have been on other trips where the tour operator was more interested in getting the shot than in giving advice."

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Jul 16, 2017 12:48:01   #
TheDman Loc: USA
 
leftj wrote:
OK, I'm stupid. What the heck is a single?


Exactly my question.

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