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Jun 27, 2017 10:17:01   #
v1k1ngfan Loc: Metropolitan Chicago
 
henryp wrote:
I sympathize and wish we could do more to help, but our hands are tied.

The Nikon D750 camera is protected by Nikon USA's unilateral price program. That program sets the minimum selling price authorized retailers are permitted to sell the camera for, and limits the addition of certain Nikon accessories as free items unless specifically authorized by Nikon USA as a limited time promotion or instant rebate.

The Nikon D750 was, for a period of time, available with several free accessories including the Nikon MB-D16 accessory. Nikon USA has since withdrawn or discontinued that promotion and authorized retailers are now prohibited from offering this. Nikon USA enforces this unilateral price program rigorously and their penalties for violations are severe.

B&H Photo at this time may not sell the D750 for below the minimum price dictated by Nikon USA nor are we permitted to offer the MB-D16 as a free accessory. I am sorry.
I sympathize and wish we could do more to help, bu... (show quote)


As I stated earlier, I understand the reasoning and I have admitted the blame is mine and mine alone.

However, thank you for your clarification and for your response.

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Jun 27, 2017 10:17:21   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
Good post!!
Mark
Rab-Eye wrote:
I'm sorry that you missed your deal. I know this does not help your situation, but I want to point out that it does speak to the integrity of the owners of B&H. There are legal fictions that some businesses take advantage of in order to do business on the Sabbath. B&H doesn't play those games, and I think that is to their credit. Again, I'm sorry you missed the deal.

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Jun 27, 2017 10:19:11   #
markngolf Loc: Bridgewater, NJ
 
You demonstrate integrity! I appreciate your response to Henry.
Mark
v1k1ngfan wrote:
As I stated earlier, I understand the reasoning and I have admitted the blame is mine and mine alone.

However, thank you for your clarification and for your response.

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Jun 27, 2017 10:27:41   #
Carusoswi
 
Regarding the B&H response, I find it depressing that manufacturers still impose end-user pricing restrictions over dealers (in cameras or any other retail offering), although, without such imposition, they still have a lot of control just by controlling the price that the dealer pays as his cost for each unit.

When I first starting shooting pictures (and purchasing cameras) the term used was "fair trade."

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Caruso

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Jun 27, 2017 10:28:34   #
RobbieAB Loc: UK
 
v1k1ngfan wrote:
I haven't decided whether I am keeping the Elan IIe, but I am leaning towards letting it go.

The 6D was tempting, but ultimately I decided the older technology was not what I wanted.

Thank you for your response.


Honestly, if you want "this years tech" on your budget, buying FF is probably not the best option.

Is there a particular reason you want a FF camera?

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Jun 27, 2017 10:45:58   #
v1k1ngfan Loc: Metropolitan Chicago
 
Rab-Eye wrote:
I'm sorry that you missed your deal. I know this does not help your situation, but I want to point out that it does speak to the integrity of the owners of B&H. There are legal fictions that some businesses take advantage of in order to do business on the Sabbath. B&H doesn't play those games, and I think that is to their credit. Again, I'm sorry you missed the deal.


I have the utmost respect for B&H in sticking to their religious beliefs. Honesty and integrity are very important qualities to me in our modern business world. I blame only myself in missing this sale and I hold no malice towards anyone in that regard.

Thank you for your response.

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Jun 27, 2017 10:54:41   #
v1k1ngfan Loc: Metropolitan Chicago
 
markngolf wrote:
You demonstrate integrity! I appreciate your response to Henry.
Mark


In a world with so much hatred and disdain for one another, I choose to use the lessons and manners I was taught as a young man.

I also believe that if you choose to say something, you should say it directly to them.

Thank you for the comment!

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Jun 27, 2017 12:34:54   #
Selene03
 
It's a bummer when you miss deals for whatever reason. I saw a good one on a lens I wanted from Canon refurbished when they had an additional 10% off. By the time I finally made up my mind to take advantage of it, the 10% was gone, and the lens was expensive enough that it made a difference. I completely regret that I didn't make up my mind sooner, but there were pluses and minuses that I had a hard time sorting out (which could be a reason for not buying the lens). The camera deals seem to come more frequently these days though, so you might get luckier next time around, but I think you need to move on them quickly.

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Jun 27, 2017 12:42:45   #
PGHphoto Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
jcboy3 wrote:
That is likely to be grey market. Nikon USA will not repair grey market items, under warranty or not.


Most definitely a gray market item. Check the 'includes' information:

'This TriStateCamera Listing comes complete with Manufacturer's Supplied Accessories
and a One Year Seller Supplied Warranty and Includes ...'

One year sellers warranty translates into gray market. Keep away !!

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Jun 27, 2017 12:44:35   #
v1k1ngfan Loc: Metropolitan Chicago
 
RobbieAB wrote:
Honestly, if you want "this years tech" on your budget, buying FF is probably not the best option.

Is there a particular reason you want a FF camera?


This is precisely why the D750 deal was ideal for me. It allowed me the full frame camera, a great starting lens for many situations, and a grip to sell that may have helped me afford a head for my monopod or tripod and possibly a sling for the camera while remaining within my set budget.

The reasons for full frame come down to image quality and ISO performance basically. I will be working with natural and available light due to my lack of experience with flash photography and I also want to experiment with astrophotography when the chance avails itself to me.

I may very well be less informed about these things which may be a contributing factor in my decision making process. This is one of the reasons that I joined Ugly Hedgehog.

Thank you for your response.

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Jun 27, 2017 12:45:33   #
v1k1ngfan Loc: Metropolitan Chicago
 
PGHphoto wrote:
Most definitely a gray market item. Check the 'includes' information:

'This TriStateCamera Listing comes complete with Manufacturer's Supplied Accessories
and a One Year Seller Supplied Warranty and Includes ...'

One year sellers warranty translates into gray market. Keep away !!



Thank you for the confirmation!

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Jun 27, 2017 12:48:42   #
v1k1ngfan Loc: Metropolitan Chicago
 
Selene03 wrote:
It's a bummer when you miss deals for whatever reason. I saw a good one on a lens I wanted from Canon refurbished when they had an additional 10% off. By the time I finally made up my mind to take advantage of it, the 10% was gone, and the lens was expensive enough that it made a difference. I completely regret that I didn't make up my mind sooner, but there were pluses and minuses that I had a hard time sorting out (which could be a reason for not buying the lens). The camera deals seem to come more frequently these days though, so you might get luckier next time around, but I think you need to move on them quickly.
It's a bummer when you miss deals for whatever rea... (show quote)


This is a dilemma I often find myself in. It was one of the things that made me "trigger shy" in purchasing the D750.

I also like to run things by my wife. Happy Wife = Happy Life!

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Jun 28, 2017 02:19:49   #
RobbieAB Loc: UK
 
v1k1ngfan wrote:
This is precisely why the D750 deal was ideal for me. It allowed me the full frame camera, a great starting lens for many situations, and a grip to sell that may have helped me afford a head for my monopod or tripod and possibly a sling for the camera while remaining within my set budget.

The reasons for full frame come down to image quality and ISO performance basically. I will be working with natural and available light due to my lack of experience with flash photography and I also want to experiment with astrophotography when the chance avails itself to me.

I may very well be less informed about these things which may be a contributing factor in my decision making process. This is one of the reasons that I joined Ugly Hedgehog.

Thank you for your response.
This is precisely why the D750 deal was ideal for ... (show quote)


On your budget, you will have very limited options in the FF space, especially as the "budget FF" cameras are all 3+ years old. I wonder if the benefits of FF in a 2014 camera model beat the benefits of having a 2016 APS-C camera?

Regarding the low light performance side of things: Would you get better performance from an older sensor coupled with a very fast lens (say an f/1.4) than you will with a new sensor and a slower lens (say an f/4)?

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Jun 28, 2017 14:15:13   #
v1k1ngfan Loc: Metropolitan Chicago
 
RobbieAB wrote:
On your budget, you will have very limited options in the FF space, especially as the "budget FF" cameras are all 3+ years old. I wonder if the benefits of FF in a 2014 camera model beat the benefits of having a 2016 APS-C camera?

Regarding the low light performance side of things: Would you get better performance from an older sensor coupled with a very fast lens (say an f/1.4) than you will with a new sensor and a slower lens (say an f/4)?


Certainly something to ponder. I wonder if anyone in our forum has a reasonable response.

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