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Jun 20, 2017 16:15:25   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
dcampbell52 wrote:
The FX is the better lens. It is constructed of metal (rather than plastic) and has ED glass. Also, if you are using it on a DX camera, you are shooting in the "sweet spot" of the lens rather than having part of the image in the outer part of the DX lens causing distortion and lesser sharpness. NOTE THE DIFFERENCE IN PRICE. This isn't just because the lens is larger diameter, it is also made with better materials.



Yet the DX 35mm lens also has ED glass and its filter size is similar to the FX 35mm f2.0 at 52mm. Makes you wonder why the DX lens has such a large objective lens when so much is not used by the DX format and it's not the "sweet part of the lens."

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Jun 20, 2017 17:01:51   #
lamiaceae Loc: San Luis Obispo County, CA
 
If you are getting it as a gift (free) who cares if it Auto-Focuses on a D3100 or not. If you get a DX D5100 or higher or any FX you should then have full functions with the gift lens (unless they mean a ancient "film" lens, and I believe those can be modified to mount safely).

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Jun 20, 2017 17:14:41   #
RickL Loc: Vail, Az
 
Fx af film lenses need no modification and fit the d7xxx, d750 and the dxxx. These camera all have motors and operate these lenses well

The D810 takes the dx lenses at 24 mp

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Jun 20, 2017 17:29:51   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
I moved from Canon to Pentax two years ago, but one thing I'll say for Canon is "if it mounts, it works" {and you can answer the if it mounts" part by determining once what mounts your camera provides}.

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Jun 20, 2017 17:36:15   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
I only use FX lenses on my D500. Quality is outstanding.
Joburg wrote:
Can anyone tell me their experiences of using a full frame lens on a DX body. I'm thinking of trading up to a full frame camera soon and have been offered the gift of a full frame lens which I have been thinking of using on my current 3100 until I purchase the new camera body. Thanks

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Jun 20, 2017 18:49:00   #
jamesl Loc: Pennsylvania
 
Joburg wrote:
Can anyone tell me their experiences of using a full frame lens on a DX body. I'm thinking of trading up to a full frame camera soon and have been offered the gift of a full frame lens which I have been thinking of using on my current 3100 until I purchase the new camera body. Thanks


I have 2 FX lenses at this time that I use on my D3100. They are a Nikon 50 mm and a Sigma 70-300 mm and they work fine except that they only work in manual focus since the D3100 doesn't have a focus motor built into the body. When I use them on my D7100 the auto focus works fine since the D7100 has the focus motor in it. If you don't mind manual focus you should be fine.

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Jun 20, 2017 20:53:23   #
Jeffcs Loc: Myrtle Beach South Carolina
 
Gene51 wrote:
Angle of view is angle of view - which is what the sensor sees. That most definitely changes. Where "apparent" comes into play is the "apparent" effect on focal length. No one responsibly says that a 100mm lens on FX is magically a 150mm lens on a DX. What they say is that the angle of view on DX is equivalent to a lens that is 1.5x longer on FX (or whatever the crop factor is).

Where F-Stops come into play is when you are considering depth of field of two lenses with equivalent angles of view, shot at the same distance to the subject to yield the same composition. You'd have to multiply the F-Stop on the FX lens by the crop factor to get approximately the same depth of field.

You're correct - most of this can be understood by studying the underlying simple math equations.
Angle of view is angle of view - which is what the... (show quote)


You are correct in above when the crop factor come into play is when the image is printed FF to DX into say a 4X5 size or the 4X5 is to FF as something closer to 3X4 on a DX so to make equal size prints from a DX body is where the angle of view and crop factor of 1.5

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Jun 20, 2017 23:30:19   #
rgfulton
 
Patw28 wrote:
Yes, no problem. BUT remember that not only does the crop factor apply to the effective focal length of the FX lens mointed on a DX body, but so too does the aperture. e,g., an F2.8 FX lens mounted on a DX body has an effective aperture of f4.0. A 20mm F2.8 prime FX lens performs as a 30mm f4.0 on a DX body.


Wrong, the f number of a lens is a function of the aperture diameter and focal length, not the "effective" focal length.

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Jun 20, 2017 23:55:15   #
whwiden
 
I like to use a 28mm pancake lens from Voigtlander on a DX body for general street photography. It gives about a 42mm equivalent angle of view--almost perfect for a normal lens.

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Jun 21, 2017 00:43:20   #
rgfulton
 
camerapapi wrote:

The only DX lens I use with my full frame camera is the Nikon 12-24 f4 AF-S. Without vignetting I can use the lens as a 16-24 f4. The results are awesome.


And you experience no edge/corner image degradation? Sounds like a well designed (perhaps over-designed) lens!

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Jun 21, 2017 03:00:29   #
whitewolfowner
 
Joburg wrote:
Can anyone tell me their experiences of using a full frame lens on a DX body. I'm thinking of trading up to a full frame camera soon and have been offered the gift of a full frame lens which I have been thinking of using on my current 3100 until I purchase the new camera body. Thanks



They work great; you are using the center of the lens and most FX lenses will out perform any DX lens in the Nikon line.

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Jun 21, 2017 04:50:58   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
Pegasus wrote:
Yet the DX 35mm lens also has ED glass and its filter size is similar to the FX 35mm f2.0 at 52mm. Makes you wonder why the DX lens has such a large objective lens when so much is not used by the DX format and it's not the "sweet part of the lens."

Only the barrel diameter is the same. I have an 85mm FX Nikkor and an 85mm DX Nikkor - both take 52mm filters but the DX front element diameter is about 20mm less.

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Jun 21, 2017 15:53:52   #
Diamond41 Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
I have D3300 and FX lenses fit but do not play well. I will keep my lenses and will upgrade to something to handle them, perhaps a 750 or 810.

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Jun 21, 2017 19:51:28   #
Bunkershot Loc: Central Florida
 
Go for it. I have a D7100 and have been accumulating fx lenses. I now have a 10-20, a 24-70 and a 105 macro. All of them function superbly with the dx sensor.

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Jun 22, 2017 08:47:33   #
Pegasus Loc: Texas Gulf Coast
 
RWR wrote:
Only the barrel diameter is the same. I have an 85mm FX Nikkor and an 85mm DX Nikkor - both take 52mm filters but the DX front element diameter is about 20mm less.


I'm a little confused here so maybe you can help me out. Are you actually comparing an 85mm f/1.4 FX lens or an 85mm f/1.8 FX lens to an 85mm f/3.5 DX lens and then saying that the objective lens on the DX lens is smaller because the DX format doesn't need as big an objective lens as an FX lens?

See, the reason I'm confused is that I always thought that focal length is focal length, irrespective of the sensor format and that it was the same for the f-number. I also thought that a bigger objective lens for the same focal length affected the f-number, not the magnification or field of view. By your statement you invalidated these beliefs.

I see four 85mm prime lenses at the Nikon website, three are FX lenses, an f/1.4, an f/1.8 and a Micro lens. I'll discard the micro lens for now. The fourth 85mm lens if an f/3.5 DX lens. The f/1.4 has a filter size of 77mm. The f/1.8 has a filter size of 67 and only the f/3.5 DX lens has a filter size of 52mm, so, I'm not sure what 85mm FX lens you have but if its filter size is 52mm, then if going to be f/2 or slower and it's not listed at the Nikon site. Maybe it's an old lens.

I hope you can help me understand your point of view.

ETA: My calculations show that the objective lens diameter for the three lenses are as follow: f/1.4: 61mm; f/1.8: 47mm; f/3.5mm: 24mm.

ETA 2: I found a reference to an old 85mm f/2 lens with a 52mm filter size produced in the 1970. Maybe that's the one you're talking about. Its objective lens diameter would be 43mm.

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