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Jun 11, 2017 11:12:08   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
jnick1947 wrote:
Depends on who you are and what you are photographing. I do a lot of music concerts. So, you bet I do. Weddings would be worse. One is freezing expressions that will not be noticed in say a video and an event that will not happen again. Also, since one must typically shoot manual with everything maxed out - lowest shutter speed and largest F stop - the subjects can be out of focus and blurred. The technique is to take several pictures then step away and make sure you have some decent ones. Last weekend I did a fundraiser with various people and politicians speaking and an auction. I was constantly checking because it was almost impossible to catch certain people without horrible expressions on their faces. Play safe... you'll be much more embarrassed if you come home and find out that you don't have any good pictures of your subject.
Depends on who you are and what you are photograph... (show quote)


What do you do if you have caught a bad one? I was shooting an awards ceremony yesterday there is maybe 20 seconds to get the photo as each person comes up and chimping between shots means no time for getting another. Hopefully with 3 shots of each person 1 will be ok. The biggest issue apart from low light was the balcony windows being reflected in peoples glasses. I had measured the light before it started so I had iso
shutterspeed and aperture preset. So it was mostly trying to hit focus and getting a good angle where the glasses didn't reflect the windows.

Chimping in those circumstances would just cost me good shots.

So saying it is a good idea to review and see who you didn't get after and take some more informal shots... That's not chimping it's reviewing.

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Jun 11, 2017 11:25:04   #
advocate1982
 
Ltgk20 wrote:
It doesn't matter to me. I have a Sony a99ii so I see everything I need in the EVF before I press the button as do all using mirrorless. However, I also shot film for 20 years where the was no chimping and with I little practice, getting a proper exposure was fairly easy.


Is that the $6000 camera with the 20 fps and battery charge is good for 480 exposures?

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Jun 11, 2017 11:41:32   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
Jim Bob wrote:
Never suggested this is a moral inquiry. Just one that I find interesting. I do think that those who refuse or decline to use chimping when possible are taking risks that could be easily avoided. I shot film for many years when chimping was not available. But that doesn't mean I should now discard this tool. My 2 cents. Whether there are any chumps here is certainly a matter of opinion.


I chimped my first shot at the parade Sat. night, and boy was I glad I did. Even with glasses that wash out the screen I could tell it was waayyy underexposed.



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Jun 11, 2017 11:46:07   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
lwerthe1mer wrote:
It may be a bad habit, but I find myself constantly chomping. Call it insecurity, uncontrollable curiosity or whatever, but I like to make sure I have captured my subject.


I also find myself frequently chomping. It's probably why I am overweight.

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Jun 11, 2017 11:56:36   #
agambrell
 
It depends on what I'm shooting. If I'm out shooting birds in flight or action sports I will take some test shots and "chimp." After that, I seldom look at the back of the camera, in fact review is turned off. There's too much chance of missing a better shot while chimping the last one. If I'm doing landscapes or architectural shots, then I will check after each shot, primarily looking at the histogram.

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Jun 11, 2017 12:12:32   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
blackest wrote:
What do you do if you have caught a bad one? I was shooting an awards ceremony yesterday there is maybe 20 seconds to get the photo as each person comes up and chimping between shots means no time for getting another. Hopefully with 3 shots of each person 1 will be ok. The biggest issue apart from low light was the balcony windows being reflected in peoples glasses. I had measured the light before it started so I had iso
shutterspeed and aperture preset. So it was mostly trying to hit focus and getting a good angle where the glasses didn't reflect the windows.

Chimping in those circumstances would just cost me good shots.

So saying it is a good idea to review and see who you didn't get after and take some more informal shots... That's not chimping it's reviewing.
What do you do if you have caught a bad one? I was... (show quote)


For award ceremonies, I ask the person giving the awards to hold the person getting the award until I can check for eye closures (I still shoot about 3 shots). If they aren't willing to give me the extra time, at least I have warned them about possible eye closures - and I have had the rare person who manages to close their eyes for all the shots. For glasses, it helps to ask the person to tilt their head down slightly to avoid reflections.

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Jun 11, 2017 12:19:47   #
timepass Loc: Yardley,PA
 
Agree!

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Jun 11, 2017 12:42:51   #
mdalbertson
 
I admit to chimping at times, but I've found that I've sometimes missed the "real" shot doing that. Here's an interesting blog post on the subject: http://erickimphotography.com/blog/2011/10/24/10-reasons-why-you-should-never-chimp-while-shooting-street-photography/

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Jun 11, 2017 12:44:31   #
edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Why is it considered a bad habit? What is the downside? Should one feel guilt at some level for doing it?



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Jun 11, 2017 12:51:29   #
Jmichaels Loc: Roberts Creek,BC, Canada
 
At the risk of being a chump, WTF is Chimping? Maybe I do, maybe I don't, but since I don't know what it is....

I was a film user for donkeys years

Michael

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Jun 11, 2017 12:55:22   #
rscholl Loc: Menlo Park, VA
 
I check the histogram. Practically never chimp. Not a problem, so I consider it a waste of time.

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Jun 11, 2017 12:58:12   #
GENorkus Loc: Washington Twp, Michigan
 
This ranks right up there as one of the most stupid terms that people use.

Consider this. If you have ever taken "people" shots, you should look at your screen if for nothing else show the person and help them pose a certain way. So tell me, is that chimping? (Who cares?)

Have you ever taken shots of animals, of nature, of landscapes, or whatever. You drive part of the day, hike a few miles, maybe camp out to get nice photos, then get home and relies something went wrong or you tell yourself, "I wish I included..." (You fill in here.) Then there are the cellphone addicts taking a selphy. (But that's another story.)

Have you ever heard of tethering? Isn't that a form of what others call chimping? Truth be known, those who use tethering have probably sunk so much cash into their system, it would be embarrassed to simply call it chimping.

Personally, I think of chimping as when someone gloats and dwells over a former shot but then who cares? (I do if it means a stranger decides to buy it!) Those who say they never look at their screens, (anti-chimpest?), are either those who don't care about the outcome or are just plain fools!

Hey, let use a more pro-like term. Let's call it "cable-less tethering"! (As long as you don't gloat over it at least.) LoL

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Jun 11, 2017 13:15:51   #
billgdyoung Loc: Big Bear City, CA
 
technology is ever-changing...I can't see any reason for NOT using all of the tools available to get right shot...

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Jun 11, 2017 13:34:02   #
JuxtaposePictures Loc: San Diego
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Why is it considered a bad habit? What is the downside? Should one feel guilt at some level for doing it?


It all depends on what you are shooting and how much time you have to capture your subject. Keep in mind chimping is usually considered checking every single (or nearly) shot right after you take it, not an occasional check. It's not a problem to chimp if your subject is static and unchanging but there are instances where it can really hurt you.

If you are photographing a person it really breaks up the connection you have with them and you risk missing great poses or expressions while chimping. It takes you out of the scene, not concentrating on your subject. Whenever you are chimping, that might be the time the best shot had occurred and you would have missed it. It can even be a problem for landscapes. If you have a scene with rapidly changing light you might miss the best shot while chimping. Certainly for wildlife it would be a problem, or sports, or really anything with action.

Again, this doesn't mean checking your images when there is a pause or break. That's totally fine and useful. Also, checking your histogram occasionally is very helpful. If you are dependent on chimping to know if you are getting your exposure correct for every shot though you probably need to work on your camera and photography skills because you probably aren't very good with exposure, reading your scenes light levels, metering, and understanding the dynamic range of your camera.

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Jun 11, 2017 14:13:23   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
DSLR - yes. Mirrorless - not needed.

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