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May 9, 2017 07:28:55   #
baseball dad
 
c49smith wrote:
I read an article on another site that talked about the propensity of some photographers to look at the captured image immediately after taking the shot. The author referred to this as "chimping", like something a monkey would do. This was considered by the author to be unprofessional behavior. So I was at a wedding last night and sure enough the photographer was "chimping" after every shot. (It's amazing the things we notice isn't it?) So I ask all you experienced hoggers out there. Is this unprofessional behavior by the photographer or maybe the inevitable result of the digital media? Instant gratification for the artist so to speak?
I read an article on another site that talked abou... (show quote)


I chimp. In fact, I chimp a lot (didn't know it had a name). But I chimp to save time. I shoot mainly sports and there are many shots that I know are not worth saving (out of focus, bad play, I was there but the ball wasn't, etc). So, I chimp and delete...frequently. As long as the chimping does not impact readiness for the next shot, I like it because when I sit down later to sift through the images, it is much more efficient as many of the unworthy images are gone.

On a separate note, to be unprofessional, does one first have to be professional? Thus, if I am not now (and never will be) a professional photographer, am I exempted from the unprofessional label? Just asking...

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May 9, 2017 11:30:21   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
c49smith wrote:
I read an article on another site that talked about the propensity of some photographers to look at the captured image immediately after taking the shot. The author referred to this as "chimping", like something a monkey would do. This was considered by the author to be unprofessional behavior. So I was at a wedding last night and sure enough the photographer was "chimping" after every shot. (It's amazing the things we notice isn't it?) So I ask all you experienced hoggers out there. Is this unprofessional behavior by the photographer or maybe the inevitable result of the digital media? Instant gratification for the artist so to speak?
I read an article on another site that talked abou... (show quote)


A wedding pro should not need to look at or "chimp" every shot taken- it takes up 50
% of his potential shooting time and just shows lack of confidence. To check as lighting
situations change is different. Also, Most pros shoot RAW and are able to change any
settings in post production.

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May 9, 2017 11:37:41   #
bdk Loc: Sanibel Fl.
 
Take a shot and chimp, be sure your getting what you expected. To chip after every shot tells me either you are new and afraid of not getting everything correct. Or you just dont know what your doing.

4 times a year I go to an event. The photographer ( same guy last 3 years) chimps after EVERY shot. Its actually funny to watch him work.
When u look at the pix on the event page its obvious he doesnt do any PP as nothing is straight, some are dark, some too light...
Makes me think he's shooting in JPG and just posting.....

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May 9, 2017 11:46:58   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
KTJohnson wrote:
It is not unprofessional to look at the results of what you just shot. If you are on a job, you want to make sure you are getting what you are being paid to get. If you are traveling or at a unique one-time event, you want to make sure you get some good shots.

On the other hand, if you are very familiar with your camera and are pretty confident you'll get what you're trying to get, it's really not necessary, especially if your camera has an EVF that shows you exactly what you are shooting as you are shooting it.
It is not unprofessional to look at the results of... (show quote)

Of course, the majority of pro photographers probably don't shoot with cameras with an EVF. That day may be coming, but it's not here yet.

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May 9, 2017 12:03:23   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
c49smith wrote:
I read an article on another site that talked about the propensity of some photographers to look at the captured image immediately after taking the shot. The author referred to this as "chimping", like something a monkey would do. This was considered by the author to be unprofessional behavior. So I was at a wedding last night and sure enough the photographer was "chimping" after every shot. (It's amazing the things we notice isn't it?) So I ask all you experienced hoggers out there. Is this unprofessional behavior by the photographer or maybe the inevitable result of the digital media? Instant gratification for the artist so to speak?
I read an article on another site that talked abou... (show quote)

I'm not a pro, but:

I chimp to check on my composition.

I chimp to check on my exposure.

I chimp to check that the image is not soft or out of focus.

I chimp to make sure nothing unexpected or unwanted crept into the frame.

I chimp to check my horizon lines

I chimp to check for flare

I chimp to confirm the effects of a CPL filter.

I chimp for perhaps dozens of additional reasons.

In other words, I chimp to make sure I got the image I intended. Why wait till you get home to realize you should have taken another shot?

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May 9, 2017 12:20:23   #
terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii
 
I was just reading the Art Wolfe book "The New Art of Photographing Nature" last night and her is a quote that was made in the preface, "The advent of digital photography has brought dramatic changes to the equipment and techniques of picture taking, including profound technical advantages that can markedly enhance creativity Perhaps the most significant of these has been the addition of the LCD screen to digital cameras, allowing you to seethe picture you've just taken. This immediate feedback allows us to see what works-and what doesn't-and to both correct mistakes and take greater risks." There you have it straight from a pro's pen and mind.
c49smith wrote:
I read an article on another site that talked about the propensity of some photographers to look at the captured image immediately after taking the shot. The author referred to this as "chimping", like something a monkey would do. This was considered by the author to be unprofessional behavior. So I was at a wedding last night and sure enough the photographer was "chimping" after every shot. (It's amazing the things we notice isn't it?) So I ask all you experienced hoggers out there. Is this unprofessional behavior by the photographer or maybe the inevitable result of the digital media? Instant gratification for the artist so to speak?
I read an article on another site that talked abou... (show quote)

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May 9, 2017 12:35:35   #
JuxtaposePictures Loc: San Diego
 
mwsilvers wrote:
I'm not a pro, but:

I chimp to check on my composition.

I chimp to check on my exposure.

I chimp to check that the image is not soft or out of focus.

I chimp to make sure nothing unexpected or unwanted crept into the frame.

I chimp to check my horizon lines

I chimp to check for flare

I chimp to confirm the effects of a CPL filter.

I chimp for perhaps dozens of additional reasons.

In other words, I chimp to make sure I got the image I intended. Why wait till you get home to realize you should have taken another shot?
I'm not a pro, but: br br I chimp to check on my ... (show quote)


That's not chipping really, I mean it could be if you are doing that after every single shot you take. Chimping isn't the act of reviewing your photos on your screen, it's when the photographer stops and checks after every single shot, potentially allowing for missed shots and breaking the rhythm of the shoot.

This might be fine for some static objects but for many types of subjects like sports, events, or even landscapes under rapidly changing light conditions it might cause you to lose the best shots and it doesn't matter if you are a professional or not. Imagine you're at your kids soccer game and your kid gets the ball. You take a shot as she moves towards the goal. As you chimp that shot she's now kicked it into the goal and you missed the shot of the winning goal. She runs to you after the game, so excited asking if you saw her score. All you can tell her is sorry I was busy chimping and didn't see it.

For a fun example check out the photographer totally missing the "money shot" in this kickball tournament because of chimping.

https://petapixel.com/2016/04/08/photographer-chimps-dslr-misses-crazy-kickball-moment/

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May 9, 2017 12:36:21   #
canon Lee
 
c49smith wrote:
I read an article on another site that talked about the propensity of some photographers to look at the captured image immediately after taking the shot. The author referred to this as "chimping", like something a monkey would do. This was considered by the author to be unprofessional behavior. So I was at a wedding last night and sure enough the photographer was "chimping" after every shot. (It's amazing the things we notice isn't it?) So I ask all you experienced hoggers out there. Is this unprofessional behavior by the photographer or maybe the inevitable result of the digital media? Instant gratification for the artist so to speak?
I read an article on another site that talked abou... (show quote)


Absolute necessity to check your histogram, That said, as long as you dont miss a shot, or if you are using AEB where you can. I have been shooting for a long time and I still check my exposure after each shot. It takes but a moment to check to see if I,m in the ball park. I do tweak my exposure as im shooting. As to the term unprofessional, I am not concerned what others may think, I am shooting for money and it has to be right!

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May 9, 2017 12:36:46   #
canon Lee
 
canon Lee wrote:
Absolute necessity to check your histogram, That said, as long as you dont miss a shot, or if you are using AEB where you can. I have been shooting for a long time and I still check my exposure after each shot. It takes but a moment to check to see if I,m in the ball park. I do tweak my exposure as im shooting.

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May 9, 2017 12:55:31   #
Just Trying To Focus Loc: Jackson County, Michigan
 
c49smith wrote:
I read an article on another site that talked about the propensity of some photographers to look at the captured image immediately after taking the shot. The author referred to this as "chimping", like something a monkey would do. This was considered by the author to be unprofessional behavior. So I was at a wedding last night and sure enough the photographer was "chimping" after every shot. (It's amazing the things we notice isn't it?) So I ask all you experienced hoggers out there. Is this unprofessional behavior by the photographer or maybe the inevitable result of the digital media? Instant gratification for the artist so to speak?
I read an article on another site that talked abou... (show quote)


I'm not a professional, I'm just a wife/mother/grandmother with a photo addiction. I can assure you that my family would MUCH rather I "chimp" the annual Christmas family photo and make sure I get it right the first time, so they don't have to reassemble and do it again later!

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May 9, 2017 12:59:53   #
terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii
 
I meant to put his instead of her, did not have enough coffee yet.
terry44 wrote:
I was just reading the Art Wolfe book "The New Art of Photographing Nature" last night and her is a quote that was made in the preface, "The advent of digital photography has brought dramatic changes to the equipment and techniques of picture taking, including profound technical advantages that can markedly enhance creativity Perhaps the most significant of these has been the addition of the LCD screen to digital cameras, allowing you to seethe picture you've just taken. This immediate feedback allows us to see what works-and what doesn't-and to both correct mistakes and take greater risks." There you have it straight from a pro's pen and mind.
I was just reading the Art Wolfe book "The Ne... (show quote)

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May 9, 2017 14:16:37   #
wolvesaywe Loc: Hants England
 
You buy the camera , you take photo's with the camera . Whose business is it but your own whether you look at every shot or not ? Some people should mind their own business instead of everyone else's

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May 9, 2017 14:33:44   #
JuxtaposePictures Loc: San Diego
 
wolvesaywe wrote:
You buy the camera , you take photo's with the camera . Whose business is it but your own whether you look at every shot or not ? Some people should mind their own business instead of everyone else's


Well this is a discussion forum and the OP did ask for people's opinions on the subject so it's completely appropriate to discuss. Some here have shared their views on why they like to chimp and some have given views on why they don't think it's a good idea. It's all about sharing knowledge, ideas, and experience. Maybe it's a good idea to not read a discussion forum if you don't like to discuss things and hear other people's viewpoints. From your choice of smiley it looks like you're making yourself sick over it.


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May 9, 2017 14:58:16   #
Erik_H Loc: Denham Springs, Louisiana
 
I usually quit chimping after I see the Tri-x label about 4 or 5 times.

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May 9, 2017 15:08:51   #
JuxtaposePictures Loc: San Diego
 
Erik_H wrote:
I usually quit chimping after I see the Tri-x label about 4 or 5 times.


Haha. Love it!


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