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May 8, 2017 18:52:49   #
Hal81 Loc: Bucks County, Pa.
 
I retired back in 93. In the film days we could not check out our shots. When I took the group shots I always took three just to make sure I didn't catch someone with their eyes closed. I would take the shot, than take one step to the right, take a shot, then two to the left and take the third shot. It really helped when picking out the negative. You could see where some ones head lined up with the background.

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May 8, 2017 19:08:52   #
JuxtaposePictures Loc: San Diego
 
amfoto1 wrote:
It depends... In some situations, I've seen photographers "chimping" so much that they were actually missing a lot of the action. But it's essential in other situations, to check that you "got the shot". A wedding is a good example, but even then I'd say it depends upon whether one is shooting candid shots in a fast-moving situation you can't control, where chimping probably costs more shots than it saves... versus shooting planned and posed shots that you MUST get correct and should chimp to check frequently.

I deliberately set my cameras to NOT playback every shot. I don't want the distraction or to be tempted to chimp a lot. (It also saves a lot of battery power, preventing each and every image from displaying on the LCD, which is a power hog.)

I do have my cameras set up so that I can recall any particular image quickly and easily with either right or left thumb. Most of the time that's to inspect the histogram, sometimes to confirm composition or to magnify the image to inspect focus accuracy. I DO NOT use the image replay for other close inspection of the image, because the image isn't calibrated and the LCD screen is highly influenced by ambient light conditions. That's why the histogram is much more informative about exposure and color balance, contrast etc. can't really be judged from the image playback. It's really only useful to check composition and, in a more limited way, focus accuracy. When shooting with any of the auto exposure modes, I also use the info that accompanies the image playback to review shutter speed, aperture, etc., watching for any wildly incorrect settings (which sometimes occur when the camera gets bumped) and making fine adjustments "on the fly". And, for certain shooting situations I make regular notes of the camera time, for quicker reference later when I'm sorting and editing several thousand images in post-processing.
It depends... In some situations, I've seen photog... (show quote)


Your thoughts and work flow sounds very similar to mine.

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May 8, 2017 19:10:16   #
Kelson Loc: Western Ma.
 
That's crazy, i always at lease in the beginning of a shoot to check your composition, white balance, light, foreground , back ground, depth of field, and so on.. Why wouldn't you?

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May 8, 2017 19:13:39   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
Gene51 wrote:
Correct! viewfinder gives you focus confirmation, ISO (if using AutoISO), shutter speed, aperture, and if you use spot meter mode, you can read the highlights and place the exposure needle where it needs to be to either avoid blown highlights, or you can make a decision about how much blown highlight you are willing to compromise on. If you use the spot meter to measure the entire scene you can accurately determine the contrast range of the shot, and whether it will be helped by shooting it as an HDR stack. My exposures are generally pretty good, and with the natural subjects I shoot, I check the LCD more to confirm there was no subject (or photographer) movement and that the eye is perfectly focused, that to judge exposure.
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Thanks Gene.
I've decided that when I win the lottery, I'll pay you a Buck an hour to shadow you around and do things to learn. You can tell everybody that he pays me a hundred dollars an hour so I put up with him.

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May 8, 2017 19:20:33   #
Kelson Loc: Western Ma.
 
SharpShooter wrote:
I guess if I have a habit of farting after every shot and can convince everyone else that, THAT is the sign of a true professional, more power to me.
I do chimp many of my shots, but rarely fart afterward!!! LoL
SS

Some of my best photos i fart just before taking it.
F.A.R.T. as i understand it. F. find the photo. A. ask yourself what makes this a great image,what makes this image better than other images, R. refine. composition, lighting, foreground, back ground, angle of view,ect. Then after all that T. take the photo. Oh yeah, and before i take the photo i think of sex. S,simplify EX. and exclude. It works! LOL

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May 8, 2017 19:21:35   #
Kelson Loc: Western Ma.
 
That's crazy, i always at lease in the beginning of a shoot to check your composition, white balance, light, foreground , back ground, depth of field, and so on.. Why wouldn't you?

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May 8, 2017 19:22:38   #
BlackRipleyDog
 
That IS what the monitor is for, despite what we may call the act.

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May 8, 2017 19:29:45   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
photoman022 wrote:
I started serious photography in 1973 with a 35mm film camera; I've been shooting digital for the past 6 or 7 years. I "chimp" all the time I don't care what anyone thinks about it. I like looking at the shot I just took. Sometimes "chimping" is beneficial. Last year I was shooting in Utah and forgot to change my camera setting from shooting a sunrise to shooting in the middle of the day (something else we're told not to do -- but what happens when you're in the middle of nowhere, going somewhere that's too far away for you to get back at either of the golden hours?)--I digress. I forgot to change my settings and immediately noticed that my photos were way, way overexposed. I only knew that because I "chimp." Now, I think I'll eat a banana!
I started serious photography in 1973 with a 35mm ... (show quote)



I'll join you.

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May 8, 2017 19:34:28   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
Marionsho wrote:
Thanks Gene.
I've decided that when I win the lottery, I'll pay you a Buck an hour to shadow you around and do things to learn. You can tell everybody that he pays me a hundred dollars an hour so I put up with him.


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May 8, 2017 19:39:55   #
Hunakai
 
This "chimping" thing...I don't know where the descriptor for "checking a photograph" came from, nor do I know if it's truly necessary after every shot. From experience, I know that shooting Polaroids in the studio before exposing the final films became SOP when it became available. Prior to that, many of the studios I worked for had their own in house labs, and those that didn't had a nearby lab to do a "clip" test. I worked in some of those labs too. All I can add to the conversation is this: every advantage one can make use of before leaving the scene/set/site should be. Just because you THINK you got it right doesn't mean you did. I'm sure many photographers of the past wished they had such advantages. I'm also sure many photographers, my self included, were often delighted and on occasion disappointed after "souping" and proofing their sessions. I've seen film shot wedding disasters in which the poor photographer had no idea his shutter was no longer responding to his settings, and 300 exposures were literally a blur. Yes, some confidence in ones experience is necessary, yes, some shots will be lost in "over-chimping". Scene to scene lighting checks necessary? you bet. Chimping every shot? I don't think so. We can overcome the disaster of a closed eye or a mixed expression by taking advantage of the multiple exposure capabilities our modern digitals offer.

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May 8, 2017 20:33:21   #
10MPlayer Loc: California
 
It sounds like photo snobbery to me. Why wouldn't you check to see if you got the shot you want? You have a chance to do it over again if you missed it. Maybe somebody blinked or turned their head at the last second. You will never get another chance to get the wedding shots right.

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May 8, 2017 21:17:35   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
Gene51 wrote:
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Oh now.

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May 8, 2017 21:38:22   #
Marionsho Loc: Kansas
 
Kelson wrote:
Some of my best photos i fart just before taking it.
F.A.R.T. as i understand it. F. find the photo. A. ask yourself what makes this a great image,what makes this image better than other images, R. refine. composition, lighting, foreground, back ground, angle of view,ect. Then after all that T. take the photo. Oh yeah, and before i take the photo i think of sex. S,simplify EX. and exclude. It works! LOL


I'm absolutely sure I'm going to steal that.
Thanks a million.
Marion

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May 9, 2017 01:21:24   #
Allen D S
 
SharpShooter wrote:
I guess if I have a habit of farting after every shot and can convince everyone else that, THAT is the sign of a true professional, more power to me.
I do chimp many of my shots, but rarely fart afterward!!! LoL
SS


I fart all the time. Nothing to do with photography.

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May 9, 2017 06:20:02   #
Papini
 
I think if you didn't chimp... you would not be normal! we all want to chimp! if you're a professional... you have to chimp!!! maybe not EVERY shot, but every so often... it is a good thing!!!
I have switched over to shooting with my Sony A7R2, and that camera has such a great viewfinder, that you don't have to chimp!!! you do not have to take your eye away from it!!! you see the image you just captured right on there!!! and the quality is so good, that you would swear you were looking through an optical viewfinder... when in fact it is an electronic one!

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