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May 2, 2017 07:20:31   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
dpfoto wrote:
If you have Lightroom CC, and decide to stop, can you continue to use it with no more upgrades? Or will it stop working completely?


If you stop making payment on your leased car, can you still keep using it? You stop paying, Adobe stops supplying.

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May 2, 2017 07:20:42   #
Haydon
 
dpfoto wrote:
If you have Lightroom CC, and decide to stop, can you continue to use it with no more upgrades? Or will it stop working completely?

Your images will be still available but you will no longer have editing capabilities.

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May 2, 2017 07:40:03   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Haydon wrote:
Your images will be still available but you will no longer have editing capabilities.


Right. In Kelby's video, he keeps using the term "outdated." Does that mean it's not going to work? That it won't do what it used to do? Of course not. It's just as good as it always was, although it doesn't have the additions and improvements that Adobe keeps adding. That's not worth $120 plus tax to me every year. Photography doesn't earn any money for me, so I have to think about where I want to spend my money.

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May 2, 2017 07:46:24   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
jerryc41 wrote:
If you stop making payment on your leased car, can you still keep using it? You stop paying, Adobe stops supplying.


Partially true - if you stop subscribing to CC, Photoshop will refuse to work period, Lightroom will continue to work in Library mode, web & print module modes, but develop mode & Map mode will cease to work - however, quick develop options continue to be available.

So, you never lose access to your images & catalog. Of course your images were never "in" Lightroom to begin with, so they remain right where they always were on your disk.

https://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2014/07/what-happens-to-lightroom-after-my-membership-ends.html

FWIW - I convert all my raw files from my D7100 into DNG files, and set Lightroom to write all edits to the files instead of keeping them in the catalog only - so each and every DNG that has been edited contains the edit, which means losing Lightroom and/or my catalog is just a speed bump - no edits ever lost.

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May 2, 2017 08:35:18   #
romanticf16 Loc: Commerce Twp, MI
 
dannac wrote:
For my computer ... the difference was speed.

LR 5.7 fast ... LR 6 sluggish.


Sounds like some preferences were changed during the upgrade? They both run the same file format.

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May 2, 2017 08:46:29   #
RickL Loc: Vail, Az
 
TennisCoach wrote:
I shoot in RAW with a Nikon D800. Does LR6 support RAW files with a Nikon D800?


I have 6 and shoot with a D810.

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May 2, 2017 09:57:13   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
I moved from LR 3 to LR 6. I actually like 3 better. But my presets carried over and when I switch to an older preset, I'm back in 3's mode, so that's cool. Don't worry about a possible new camera having raw that you can't open. There's always DNG conversion. It's another step and takes awhile, but it's free! I also find LR 6 to be incredibly slow.

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May 2, 2017 10:54:30   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
dpfoto wrote:
If you have Lightroom CC, and decide to stop, can you continue to use it with no more upgrades? Or will it stop working completely?


Neither, actually. You'll be able to output your edited photos in various file formats, but you won't be able to continue to edit, and most of the other modes besides Library and Develop won't work.

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May 2, 2017 10:59:03   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
DWU2 wrote:
Neither, actually. You'll be able to output your edited photos in various file formats, but you won't be able to continue to edit, and most of the other modes besides Library and Develop won't work.


Library mode still functions, as does quick develop, Web and print mode will continue to work.

MAP & DEVELOP mode will no longer function though.

See link

https://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2014/07/what-happens-to-lightroom-after-my-membership-ends.html

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May 2, 2017 15:46:44   #
oldbimmercoupe
 
PixelStan77 wrote:
yes, buy LR 6 and you will be set for a long time. When you install it, you will notice that they have an upgrade, so install that also. Smart move not to spend $10 a month. I use LR6 that I own

sorry, but you are never "set for a long time" with software - once captive, we are helpless as they obsolete everything else (e.g. operating systems march on and leave you eventually unsupported).

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May 2, 2017 20:53:27   #
Whuff Loc: Marshalltown, Iowa
 
TennisCoach wrote:
I have Lightroom 5 and have a chance to get Lightroom 6. Is there much difference between the two, to purchase LR 6? I don't want to pay $10 per month for the next 20 years.


If you google something like "difference between Lightroom 5 & 6 you'll get an idea of what you might be missing. I decided to continue using my version 5.7 because as far as I could tell the main difference was Lr6 has ability for HDR processing and panorama stitching that isn't available in Lr5. I don't do panoramas and I have Photomatix Pro if I want to do HDR.
I guess I'm just not one of those people that has to have the latest and greatest and have it right now. At some point in the future I may upgrade to a better camera, at which time my current version of Lr will not be supported but at that time I'll probably weigh my options and look into other programs since I don't like paying monthly for anything.

Walt

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May 2, 2017 21:03:50   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
TennisCoach wrote:
I shoot in RAW with a Nikon D800. Does LR6 support RAW files with a Nikon D800?


YES

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May 3, 2017 04:28:00   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
jerryc41 wrote:
If you're considering buying LR6, don't hesitate. Adobe could discontinue it at any time. They have said that it's their last stand-alone LR....


Actually they've said exactly the opposite.

Adobe spokespersons on their forums have stated that LR6 will continue to be supported and updated for a while longer and that eventually there will be a Lightroom 7. Beyond that, who knows. But since full, new versions of LR seem to roll out every 2 to 3 years, LR6 was introduced in April 2015 (so is due for replacement within the next year, if they stick with the same schedule), and LR7 should be good for 2 to 3 years after that... taking us to 2019 or 2020.

Lightroom 6 and Lightroom CC are essentially the same thing. If you download the 30-day trial directly from Adobe's website, then decide to buy it... you can license it either way, as a CC subscription or as a stand-alone.

The difference between LR CC and LR6 comes later, with periodic updates. LR CC gets them faster and has had a few relatively minor new features incorporated that aren't yet in LR6 (but probably will be, eventually).

LR6 has been kept up to date (unlike Photoshop CS6, which Adobe stopped supporting a couple years ago). LR6 can handle even the most recently released cameras, so no problem with a D800 that's a few years old now. It's actually Adobe Camera Raw, within LR6, that's been updated (and is shared between Photoshop, LR and Elements... though it's a module that's updated separately with PS, and is built into LR6 and Elements in such a way that both of them need the entire program be updated).

Since you have LR5, you can save quite a bit buying directly from Adobe. There's an "Upgrade" price available during the checkout process there. AFAIK, this is the first time they've ever offered an Upgrade of LR and hey made it really hard to find... hidden in a little pull-down menu in the "shopping cart", after you've already committed to buying, but before you make your payment. Anyone with LR5 can get LR6 (or CC) for under $100 that way. Otherwise, the full version is something like $142.

If you instead subscribe... on the one hand you also get Photoshop CC in the package, along with LR CC. But on the other hand if you let the subscription expire for any reason, LR CC will only partially work. As of now you can access the Library mode (as well as Print and Web modules, which are less useful). But you'll no longer be able to edit your images or Export them from LR CC. Eventually I wouldn't be surprised if Adobe stops the Library module too. Your original files will remain (since they are never truly "in" LR anyway). Any files you've exported will be fine, too. In other words, if you stop payin', the subscription software pretty much stops workin'.

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May 3, 2017 05:08:16   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
amfoto1 wrote:
Actually they've said exactly the opposite.

Adobe spokespersons on their forums have stated that LR6 will continue to be supported and updated for a while longer and that eventually there will be a Lightroom 7. Beyond that, who knows. But since full, new versions of LR seem to roll out every 2 to 3 years, LR6 was introduced in April 2015 (so is due for replacement within the next year, if they stick with the same schedule), and LR7 should be good for 2 to 3 years after that... taking us to 2019 or 2020.

Lightroom 6 and Lightroom CC are essentially the same thing. If you download the 30-day trial directly from Adobe's website, then decide to buy it... you can license it either way, as a CC subscription or as a stand-alone.

The difference between LR CC and LR6 comes later, with periodic updates. LR CC gets them faster and has had a few relatively minor new features incorporated that aren't yet in LR6 (but probably will be, eventually).

LR6 has been kept up to date (unlike Photoshop CS6, which Adobe stopped supporting a couple years ago). LR6 can handle even the most recently released cameras, so no problem with a D800 that's a few years old now. It's actually Adobe Camera Raw, within LR6, that's been updated (and is shared between Photoshop, LR and Elements... though it's a module that's updated separately with PS, and is built into LR6 and Elements in such a way that both of them need the entire program be updated).

Since you have LR5, you can save quite a bit buying directly from Adobe. There's an "Upgrade" price available during the checkout process there. AFAIK, this is the first time they've ever offered an Upgrade of LR and hey made it really hard to find... hidden in a little pull-down menu in the "shopping cart", after you've already committed to buying, but before you make your payment. Anyone with LR5 can get LR6 (or CC) for under $100 that way. Otherwise, the full version is something like $142.

If you instead subscribe... on the one hand you also get Photoshop CC in the package, along with LR CC. But on the other hand if you let the subscription expire for any reason, LR CC will only partially work. As of now you can access the Library mode (as well as Print and Web modules, which are less useful). But you'll no longer be able to edit your images or Export them from LR CC. Eventually I wouldn't be surprised if Adobe stops the Library module too. Your original files will remain (since they are never truly "in" LR anyway). Any files you've exported will be fine, too. In other words, if you stop payin', the subscription software pretty much stops workin'.
Actually they've said exactly the opposite. br br... (show quote)


You don't lose anything from the standalone version of lightroom it will carry on doing what it does. It's fair to say next years camera raw files may not be supported and you could switch to a newer operating system that doesn't support it. However while you have the hardware and supporting software it will do what it always has done.

I have an old scanner it's not supported on current versions of windows, however I can still use it on windows 2000 (which has been eol since 2010) in a virtual machine, the scsi card it uses doesn't have 64 bit drivers but the virtual machine can be passed the pci slot and it works. In fact with the processor and ram I have in that machine it's better than when it was new (around 20 years ago). Will it keep working another 20 years, who knows.

I'm using lightroom 5 currently and my camera's are all supported, at some point in the future I may buy an unsupported camera even then i can use the free dng converter, I am not forced to upgrade. If when i do upgrade and perhaps the rental option is the only option assuming somebody else isn't producing an effective alternative I can upgrade. I will not be forced to pay back rent for all the years i didn't upgrade.

Lightroom 6 currently doesn't appeal , maybe lightroom 7 will be better. Oh one last thing the upgrade price for lightroom is from any earlier version of lightroom. Same deal for all of them.

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