Adobe and Raw
Apr 3, 2017 06:28:03 #
Apr 3, 2017 06:54:32 #
Jeffcs
Loc: Myrtle Beach South Carolina
I have newer cameras not supported by CS6
I open the raw in PSE-15
After ACR in PSE-15 I save as a PS
Than I can open in CS6 with 16bit PS it's still a raw image
Hope this helps you
I open the raw in PSE-15
After ACR in PSE-15 I save as a PS
Than I can open in CS6 with 16bit PS it's still a raw image
Hope this helps you
Apr 3, 2017 07:18:32 #
Apr 3, 2017 07:29:10 #
Rickyb wrote:
I just purchased the Mark iv Canon and it seems Adobe Raw does not value CS6. So you must go thru Canon RAW opening software. I assume Adobe CC will open the Canon Mark IV with dng and no Canon Software needed. Just another score for Adobe! Believe me Adobe will continue forever only in its own CLOUD. Any comments? All are welcome.
Fortunately, LR6 has been updating every so often, and I don't plan to buy any new cameras. Still, I think the camera is more important that Adobe. Can you imagine not buying the new camera you want because Adobe hasn't given you permission? There are lots of ways to open raw files, including your Canon software.
http://improvephotography.com/10371/how-do-i-view-a-raw-file/
Apr 3, 2017 07:31:15 #
DWU2 wrote:
I agree with you completely, Bill. Plus, if one waits, you'll sometimes enjoy a price drop. By the way, I just ran across an interesting free plug-in for Chrome that shows the price history of an item you're looking at on Amazon. It's called Keepa. If you used it, you could see, for example, that the price for a Canon 5ds just dropped from $3,499 to $2,699, which sort of reinforces my original point.
camelcamelcamel - a Chrome extension - sends me emails when a price on my Amazon Wish List drops. It also shows the price history.
Apr 3, 2017 07:31:57 #
Peterff wrote:
No. DNG does not do that. DNG is a format, it does not actually DO anything. A DNG converter may do that, but you are confusing image formats with tools that manipulate them. http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/adobe-dng-converter.html
Please do a little research before posting definitive statements, especially erroneous ones.
Adobe DNG and Adobe DNG converter are not the same thing. Related for sure, but one is a format and the other is a tool.
Please do a little research before posting definitive statements, especially erroneous ones.
Adobe DNG and Adobe DNG converter are not the same thing. Related for sure, but one is a format and the other is a tool.
Apr 3, 2017 09:34:02 #
Most of these conversations are way too convoluted for me, but I will make an observation. When I got my 5DIV, the file formate was not supported by Adobe. As such, I started using DPP4 instead of ACR, subsequently bringing the tiff file into Photoshop. Once Adobe caught up with the new camera, I upgraded and at least had the choice of using ACR and/or DPP4. Both have their advantages and disadvantages, but now I am leaning toward most of my images processed thru DPP4. I think the image quality coming into Photoshop from Canon's software is a little better. Any thoughts?
Apr 3, 2017 09:43:46 #
mborn wrote:
DNG is created by Adobe But is open source available for anyone to use
DNG is proprietary, not open source to be correct, nor is it a formal standard like JPEG.
Adobe has published the specification and use licences are royalty free, but it still under Adobe's control. It has been proposed as a standard, but has not yet been accepted.
It is fair to call it an 'open format specification' but Adobe could change it at anytime if they wished to do so, although that is unlikely.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Negative
Apr 3, 2017 11:32:16 #
I recently upgraded to PS Elements 14 and noticed all the sales pitches for the CLOUD. It seems to me that Adobe is trying to cloud our vision. Now, instead of buying a product and being done with it, they've figured out a way to have us paying every month! That's the kind of business that has all of your customers deserting you the minute there's a new guy in town.
Apr 3, 2017 11:49:34 #
[quote=Jeffcs]I have newer cameras not supported by CS6
I open the raw in PSE-15
After ACR in PSE-15 I save as a PS
Than I can open in CS6 with 16bit PS it's still a raw image
Hope this helps you[/quot
I open the raw in PSE-15
After ACR in PSE-15 I save as a PS
Than I can open in CS6 with 16bit PS it's still a raw image
Hope this helps you[/quot
Apr 3, 2017 12:01:15 #
Joker wrote:
That's the kind of business that has all of your customers deserting you the minute there's a new guy in town.
Not in this case. New programs are being introduced while Adobe is enjoying record subscriptions. The world is changing. We need to get used to it.
Apr 3, 2017 12:02:01 #
I use Photoshop and Lightroom CC for $10 per month. It gives me the latest upgrades for each application and the newest update for new camera raw files. It will read the raw files about a month after the camera is released. This price is cheaper than buying a new version for at least $700 every five years to get the latest update!
Apr 3, 2017 12:27:17 #
Nalu wrote:
Most of these conversations are way too convoluted... (show quote)
The noise is lower with DPP (tested it). Btw, there is a direct export to PS in the DPP4 menu which saves the intermediate save as a TIFF step.
Apr 3, 2017 12:38:41 #
DavidPine wrote:
I use PSCC/ACR and LRCC. I never convert my raw files to DNG files. It's not necessary to do so. I don't think a DNG is inferior but I just don't spend time in the conversion.
...I have LR convert to DNG upon import, have been doing that for years. Am I going to save *time* not having the program do that? I like the fact I gain some storage space and have yet to run into any "loss" in development...
Apr 3, 2017 12:48:15 #
Joker wrote:
I recently upgraded to PS Elements 14 and noticed all the sales pitches for the CLOUD. It seems to me that Adobe is trying to cloud our vision. Now, instead of buying a product and being done with it, they've figured out a way to have us paying every month! That's the kind of business that has all of your customers deserting you the minute there's a new guy in town.
That's an interesting and realistic viewpoint from some perspectives. When Adobe started moving to the 'cloud' or better described as a subscription model, it was prohibitively expensive, so I tried to upgrade my copy of CS3, but I couldn't. It was $600 just for PS. By the time Adobe brought it down to $10 a month, that became much more realistic from a financial perspective, that's five years which is a long time in software and always being current. It is a different mindset, but makes sense to me. I still have and can use CS3 if I wish to, also PaintShopPro, but this shouldn't be an ideological issue if it makes financial sense.
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