have you thought about just getting a close up lens (they are like a filter and come in a kit of 3) in my past life i was able to lots of things with them they work best on telephoto lens that way you can get light between you and the subject... think about it its a lot less money and does a fine job...
laskalass wrote:
Thanks Sherrie...I'll keep practicing... I only have the kit lenses for my Canon...Im looking to get a better macro lens...but they are so expensive for a good one!
photogrl57 wrote:
laskalass wrote:
Guess Ill try to post one pic at a time it keeps getting an error message... maybe my photos are too big? This is the third time trying to post Ill do it slow one at a time...I took a photo of the midnight sun..taken at midnight...a lot of black clouds were out there though....but the sun wont go down all the way... just will scoot along the horizon and pop back up....
Wonderful photos Lass .. I've never seen a midnight sun .. I love them all .. your make a wish one is a perfect example of shallow depth of field .. pg 1
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[quote=MadMike]I don't want to jump subjects, but you mentioned you would like to see pictures taken of the Chalk Art Festival yesterday. Here are a few, but not nearly as nice as last year.
Mike those are awesome !! well done .. thanks for sharing:) .. pg 17
Wahawk wrote:
Smokenmirrorss wrote:
Bushido wrote:
Over the past few weeks that I have participated in UHH I have read many say "I can't get good shots because I only have a point and shot" or " I have this great equipment and I can almost do anything." So before I get started let me apologize if I step on any ones toes. If you want to take exceptional pictures LEARN THE LIMITATIONS OF YOUR EQUIPMENT AND WORK WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE. When I trained photographers they were not allowed to use any automatic feature on the camera and only after they mastered the basics did they switch to any auto feature. Automatic does nothing to help you achieve quality images unless you know what and why the camera is doing what it is doing. The following series of images are to help everyone better understand the relationship of focal length and f-stop's effect on depth of field. Look closely at what is in focus and what is not. The point of focus was never changed only the f-stop and corresponding shutter speed for proper exposure as well as the focal length. Something that has not been discussed is how this helps better an image. Many times I hated what was behind my subject. Wires old car and before digital I through them out of focus. The last two pictures look at the flowers and the rocks behind them. One the rocks are in focus the other the rocks are slightly soft allowing the eye to flow back to the flowers which is the subject of the image. Have a great day or a better one.
P.S. All of these were done this morning with only two hours of sleep. They are straight out of the camera with no enhancement or PP.
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I'm not sure exactly what it is that I am asking, so the question isn't clear - sorry. What is the relationship of the F-stop to the focal length of the lense? The ability to blur the background seems to lessen the further you are from the subject, unless you are focusing on a far object, in which case the foreground is easily blurred. This generally means larger objects have to be framed tighter to obscure those telephone lines and cars in the background. I feel like I am missing something here.
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It 'might' help to think of the depth of field as a percentage of the area in the image. The farther you are away from the focal point with a telephoto, the more actual territory that actually is included in the 'in-focus' area. As you get closer, and getting less total depth in a picture, such as in flower close-ups, etc, the same percentage of the complete depth of the photo will be in focus. However, on the 'long distance' type of picture you might have 200 feet in view, and say 10% of that is in focus you are still including 20 feet. In the close up you might have a total of 12 inches in the total depth so 10% is only 1.2 inches.
This may help understand why the 'close'up' type of pictures make the shallow depth of field more evident.
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Yes that helps. The focal point and how you set up to view it seems the critical factor. Explains why you can take a picture of a distant object and have the foreground out of focus while the distant topic and everything at that same or near distance is in focus. Same explanation only inverted.
MadMike wrote:
I'm back, and here are a few more pictures, flowers and bugs are a lot of fun, the problem is that the bugs don't cooperate as well as the flowers.
photogrl57 wrote:
MadMike wrote:
I'm posting my little friend to keep an eye on all of you this morning. I'll be back later to check on your posts, and add a few more of my own. Lets have fun with this today.
Wow MM .. excellent example .. great capture .. pg 4
AWESOME pics, LOVE the rose!! p7
Bushido wrote:
Smokenmirrorss.. for all practical purposes there are three factors that effect DOF. Aperture, the larger the opening the shallower the depth of field. Focal length, the greater the focal length the shallower the DOF. And distance form the subject, the closer you are to the subject the shallower the DOF. Knowing these factors and your equipment will allow you to better control the the final image. There is a fourth factor that plays into DOF also however we have no control over it, that being how the lens is made the quality of the glass (or plastic) used in the construction of the lens. That is why I say everyone needs to learn the limitations of there equipment by shooting on manual. If this does not answer you question PM me and I will try to do better. In the mean time go out and experiment. See what you can do in manual modes. It is a fun test.
Smokenmirrorss wrote:
Bushido wrote:
Over the past few weeks that I have participated in UHH I have read many say "I can't get good shots because I only have a point and shot" or " I have this great equipment and I can almost do anything." So before I get started let me apologize if I step on any ones toes. If you want to take exceptional pictures LEARN THE LIMITATIONS OF YOUR EQUIPMENT AND WORK WITH THAT KNOWLEDGE. When I trained photographers they were not allowed to use any automatic feature on the camera and only after they mastered the basics did they switch to any auto feature. Automatic does nothing to help you achieve quality images unless you know what and why the camera is doing what it is doing. The following series of images are to help everyone better understand the relationship of focal length and f-stop's effect on depth of field. Look closely at what is in focus and what is not. The point of focus was never changed only the f-stop and corresponding shutter speed for proper exposure as well as the focal length. Something that has not been discussed is how this helps better an image. Many times I hated what was behind my subject. Wires old car and before digital I through them out of focus. The last two pictures look at the flowers and the rocks behind them. One the rocks are in focus the other the rocks are slightly soft allowing the eye to flow back to the flowers which is the subject of the image. Have a great day or a better one.
P.S. All of these were done this morning with only two hours of sleep. They are straight out of the camera with no enhancement or PP.
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I'm not sure exactly what it is that I am asking, so the question isn't clear - sorry. What is the relationship of the F-stop to the focal length of the lense? The ability to blur the background seems to lessen the further you are from the subject, unless you are focusing on a far object, in which case the foreground is easily blurred. This generally means larger objects have to be framed tighter to obscure those telephone lines and cars in the background. I feel like I am missing something here.
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I did play with my settings today, all on manual as directed! I enjoyed the lesson and instruction from everyone. Thank you.
Georgiann wrote:
I'm finally getting some flowers, stupid weather!
Love these pics, definitely a different perspective when shooting the back side!! p8
photogrl57 wrote:
aleone63 wrote:
photogrl57 wrote:
Welcome to Day 169:) Today we are going to be taking a look at Shallow Depth of Field. I look forward to seeing what y'all come up with.
I am with yu PG I love this
Wow Annette ... that butterfly (moth?) is fantastic .. what a great capture .. all are excellent examples of shallow depth of field :) ... pg 13
we were having a good old fashioned stare down....
here is an update on more wonderful photo from you guys.
JacLee very nicely done...
I really like your breakfast the best... but i felt this was a very creative compositon.. and a nice shot..
meo62 i don't know what this is but i found it facinatin and very nicely done
everyone's images are amazing
aleone63 this butterfly is very nice.. and is a little intiminating
Pea... you are making your new camera do amazing things, i cant believe you shot these with a camera you were not use to.. keep up the great work
SeaSide the rich colors in this image are wonderful love the contrat between the rose and the background
Here are a few more great shots.
laskalass, do you think it could be a prison... for sure they don't want any one to get in...
madmike this is my favorite too, but i was really impressed at what the kids were doing.. the overcast day made the colors so nice.. its a shame that put all thtat work in on a chalk image on a side walk.. wish i could draw a stright line.
Wahawk this really has nice colors, very nice
whitewitch i thought these pink flower were lovely. keep up the great work
Bushido wrote:
Good photos Aleone I think you stated you had a point and shot camera. Henri Cartier Bresson one of the premiere photographers of the 20th century, used a Lica just like a point and shot. If I remember correctly he would prefocused and set his f-stop and shutter speed, then went out and shot. Practice and a little help form friends is all any one need to learn to shoot good photography.
aleone63 wrote:
photogrl57 wrote:
Welcome to Day 169:) Today we are going to be taking a look at Shallow Depth of Field. I look forward to seeing what y'all come up with.
I am with yu PG I love this
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I am proud to say that I haven't shot using the auto mode since december!
Wow......just looked through 18 pages of photos and fantastic advice. A lot of awesome photos posted, Would like to make comments on all but was helping my 85 year old father today and my wrist with carpal tunnel is throbbing.
YAHOOOOOOOO very nice.....and i can see
YOU FOUND THE LIGHT
Peanut wrote:
Hi all...miss everyone...lucky to post today...these are very first pix with new camera....we are in Va....
aleone63 wrote:
photogrl57 wrote:
Welcome to Day 169:) Today we are going to be taking a look at Shallow Depth of Field. I look forward to seeing what y'all come up with.
I am with yu PG I love this
WOW!! I continue to be amazed at the awesome pics you submit!!
And some people say you can't do that good with a 'bridge' camera!!
Way to PROVE THEM WRONG Annette!!! AWESOME p13
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