Film shots made digital? How?
Jun 10, 2012 06:32:43 #
You are right in using a professional lab as oposed to a home scanner.
What people don't know is that a home scanner scans at 5MP max.
What people don't know is that a home scanner scans at 5MP max.
dickhrm wrote:
True, prices are modest - a local professional dev... (show quote)
Jun 10, 2012 06:34:23 #
FilmFanatic
Loc: Waikato, New Zealand
camerabuff58 wrote:
You are right in using a professional lab as oposed to a home scanner.
What people don't know is that a home scanner scans at 5MP max.
What people don't know is that a home scanner scans at 5MP max.
Umm, what? That really depends on the scanner don't you think?
Jun 10, 2012 06:54:45 #
FilmFanatic wrote:
Umm, what? That really depends on the scanner don't you think?
camerabuff58 wrote:
You are right in using a professional lab as oposed to a home scanner.
What people don't know is that a home scanner scans at 5MP max.
What people don't know is that a home scanner scans at 5MP max.
Umm, what? That really depends on the scanner don't you think?
Its all about money.... how much do you wan't to spend for a "COMPARISON" I'd go to Walmart for a $50 canon printer/scanner.....
Jun 10, 2012 08:02:25 #
woodsmitty wrote:
I have decided to reserect my Canon T70 system with it's two zoom lenses, 28-80mm and 70-300mm plus my 2x extender. I would like to compare photos taken with my digital cameras to ones taken on film. Here's the big question. Should I just have prints made and scan them in myself or should I let the developer
(Walmart) put them on a CD for me? I'd like to be able to share them with other members on the site and get their feed back.
(Walmart) put them on a CD for me? I'd like to be able to share them with other members on the site and get their feed back.
I have a flat bed scanner and a dedicated scanner but I find that I get the best results using my camera with a nifty fifty lens and the Pentax bellows attachement that holds either film or slides. I find that that it does a really great job. Takes a while to set up but it is worth the trouble to get quality results. I have been thinking that I might get even better results if I use a macro lens, has any of you guys tried this. Rico
Jun 10, 2012 08:26:25 #
If you are really serious about transferring old negatives or slides to digital, than a dedicated negative scanner will produce the best results. I have a Nikon Coolscan V ED (no longer available) which produces files of around 14 MB from 35mm black and white negatives, with 23.51 MP.
RMM is absolutely right, there is a lot of work involved in cleaning up the results - fine scratches, dust marks etc, so you would only do that for pics you intended to print. Once you have got the digital file you can work on it whenever you like.
RMM is absolutely right, there is a lot of work involved in cleaning up the results - fine scratches, dust marks etc, so you would only do that for pics you intended to print. Once you have got the digital file you can work on it whenever you like.
Jun 10, 2012 08:47:08 #
Woody,
There is only one way to get the resolution from film that is scanned, a drum scanner and I doubt that Walmart has one. If these are important photos, then you need to find a very good professional lab. I have a scanner an Epson, and I could scan it but it would not be the same.
George
There is only one way to get the resolution from film that is scanned, a drum scanner and I doubt that Walmart has one. If these are important photos, then you need to find a very good professional lab. I have a scanner an Epson, and I could scan it but it would not be the same.
George
Jun 10, 2012 09:49:44 #
one thing you can try is to send the film out to a GOOD lab and have them burn a DVD--find a friendly professional photographer and ask what lab he would suggest. And ask a couple that way you have the name of more than 1 lab.
You can try Walmart etc. But I doubt if they would have the proper equipment to do a good job for this process.
Ellen
You can try Walmart etc. But I doubt if they would have the proper equipment to do a good job for this process.
Ellen
Jun 10, 2012 09:55:49 #
woodsmitty wrote:
When you are right are you ever right! I tried all the methods posted on the internet using gimp. It's not as easy as they make it look. If I were going to use a lot of film I might even consider digging out all my old darkroom equipment rather than go through that again. Maybe I'll just- start saving for a better digital camera and skip the whole mess.
Take a chance and use the film camera and go to a good lab. You might have to invest in some photo editing programs or go to cnet.com and download some of the free programs there if you find something there that interests you. FastStone Image Viewer was what I started off with to learn the ropes. Now have Photoshop Elements 10 and really like it.
Ellen
Jun 10, 2012 11:42:00 #
I just bought a Wolverine scanner, model WOF2D14. It is a 14 meg scanner. It will scan a slide in about 3 seconds. I have over 2000 slides and I have no idea of how many 35mm negs. But it does a pretty good job.
Jun 10, 2012 12:11:02 #
flashgordonbrown
Loc: Silverdale, WA
woodsmitty wrote:
I have decided to reserect my Canon T70 system with it's two zoom lenses, 28-80mm and 70-300mm plus my 2x extender. I would like to compare photos taken with my digital cameras to ones taken on film. Here's the big question. Should I just have prints made and scan them in myself or should I let the developer
(Walmart) put them on a CD for me? I'd like to be able to share them with other members on the site and get their feed back.
(Walmart) put them on a CD for me? I'd like to be able to share them with other members on the site and get their feed back.
you're best off having them scanned onto a cd/dvd, rather than scanning from the print-you get all of the information available on the negative that way. If you scan the print,you've already lost data.
Jun 10, 2012 15:12:19 #
In my experience, having Walmart (or Rite-Aid, Costco, whoever) put the images on a CD is a waste of time and money--except for archival purposes. The scan is usually at a very low resolution and trying to work the with images off the CD has, again in my experience, been very unsatisfactory. On the other hand, taking a clean 5x7 print, scanning it myself at high resolution, then working with that in Photoshop has given me some lovely images to enlarge and print.
Jun 10, 2012 15:14:17 #
That said, it's best to scan the negative or slide directly. And if you ca find a photo processor who can scan onto CD/DVD at high resolution, then my suggestion below doesn't count.
mtbearded1 wrote:
In my experience, having Walmart (or Rite-Aid, Costco, whoever) put the images on a CD is a waste of time and money--except for archival purposes. The scan is usually at a very low resolution and trying to work the with images off the CD has, again in my experience, been very unsatisfactory. On the other hand, taking a clean 5x7 print, scanning it myself at high resolution, then working with that in Photoshop has given me some lovely images to enlarge and print.
Jun 10, 2012 16:10:01 #
woodsmitty wrote:
I have had no problem with those film photos Walmart has put on a CD for me. Here is one,and the second was made from a 2x2 35mm slide.Of course I don't claim to be a professional Walmart just did ok on the ones I have taken there.This slide was taken in 1971,but I just had it put on a CD a few days ago. Try 1 disc then if you don't like them you can always switch to another lab.I have decided to reserect my Canon T70 system with it's two zoom lenses, 28-80mm and 70-300mm plus my 2x extender. I would like to compare photos taken with my digital cameras to ones taken on film. Here's the big question. Should I just have prints made and scan them in myself or should I let the developer
(Walmart) put them on a CD for me? I'd like to be able to share them with other members on the site and get their feed back.
(Walmart) put them on a CD for me? I'd like to be able to share them with other members on the site and get their feed back.
Pacific Ocean
Camel Rock in Wyoming.
Jun 10, 2012 17:48:04 #
CooledgeR
Loc: Sunny (Hot) Arizona
Here's the scanner I use, and I am very pleased with the results. The SilverFast Software is IMHO the best to found.
The Plustek OpticFilm 7600i Ai Scanner has a 7200dpi sensor and produces a 7200dpi file natively. It also has a lower resolution mode -- 3600dpi -- in which only half of the pixel sites are used. So the hardware resolution is user-selectable between 3600 and 7200dpi. Scanning at a resolution lower than 3600dpi will still result in scanning at 3600dpi, and then the software interpolates the resolution down. The scanner's light source comes from a white LED which makes images vivid and dimensional.
The OpticFilm 7600i Ai scans at 48-bit color for extremely accurate and vibrant color images that retain subtle details in the highlight and shadow areas of the scanned image. To minimize noise, the scanner's multi-sampling function makes 4 scan passes that are averaged together so image noise is cancelled out. It has a multi-exposure function that is utilized with negative film or slides to provide improved shadow & highlight detail and provide images with richness and depth that makes your pictures look as if they are three-dimensional.
To achieve high-quality images in under a minute, the 7600i Ai comes with the amazing SilverFast Ai Studio iSRD + MultiExposure software bundle. It includes the iT8 Calibration target which allows users to obtain accurate colors and generates ICC-profile by just one click, and New Soft Presto! ImageFolio 4.5, a comprehensive multimedia image-processing program that allows you to create new images by using a set of image-editing tools and quickly create new images or enhance pre-existing ones.
Also included is New Soft Presto! PageManager 7.10, a powerful document management software for OCR, PDF creation, or format conversion to Microsoft Word or Excel, and the LaserSoft SilverFast Ai Studio iSRD + MultiExposure software bundle, a world class professional scan software equipped with iSRD (Infrared Smart Removal of Defect), which utilizes a combination of hardware and software to automatically eliminate minor flaws, such as dust and scratches, using an infrared channel to detect the flaws.
Scan Slides and Negatives
Two film holders are provided--one is for holding up to four mounted slides, the other is for filmstrips up to 6 frames. The film holders have the added benefit of protecting the film from the scanner mechanisms because there is no physical contact with the media during scanning process.
Multiple Sampling Function
The Plustek multi-sampling function minimizes image noise by making 4 sequential scans for your slide or negative, which are then averaged together in order to cancel out the inconsistencies that are present due to image noise.
Multi-Exposure Function
The multi-exposure function can be utilized with negative film and slides to provide improved shadow & highlight detail and provide images with a richness and depth that makes your pictures look as if they are three dimensional.
iSRD Dust & Scratch Removal
SilverFast iSRD (Infrared Smart Removal of Defect) uses a combination of hardware and software to automatically eliminate minor flaws, such as dust and scratches. Two modes are available - in the Automatic mode, SilverFast iSRD operates completely on its own and applies corrected result to the entire scanned frame. In manual mode, the user can select certain area(s) to work on, and leave the rest untouched. The SilverFast iSRD system does not soften or blur the scanned file and provides the user with an enhanced genuine image.
SilverFast Ai Studio IT8 (Multi-Exposure)
SilverFast Ai Studio IT8 (Multi-Exposure) calibration software allows you to generate ICC color profiles. Using this feature, you can calibrate your scanner using a standard color target which LaserSoft Imaging supplies to you. SilverFast will not only generate a profile, it will also generate its own internal calibration based on the target. This allows enhanced color accuracy.
USB 2.0 High Speed Connection
Providing a high speed connection to your computer, the USB 2.0 interface allows the scanner to operate quickly and seamlessly with your PC.
SilverFast 6.6 Ai Studio iSRD + MultiExposure
SilverFast is a world class professional scan software, with the stand-alone SilverFast Launcher and TWAIN Plug-in applications. It provides casual users and professionals with a powerful tool for scanning, editing, and color reproduction.
SilverFast 6.6 Ai Studio iSRD + MultiExposure comes with more powerful functions featuring Multi-Exposure, SilverFast Basic, AACO, iSRD, SRD, Auto-Adjust, USM, SCC, NegaFix, and many other advance features.
NewSoft Presto! ImageFolio 4.5
ImageFolio is a comprehensive multimedia image-processing program. You can create new images by using the ImageFolio's powerful tools. This sophisticated set of image-editing tools enables you to quickly create new images or enhance pre-existing ones.
Complete image-tuning functions
Easy to manage and preview image files
TWAIN interface support for automatic fine-tuning during scanning
Monitor Gamma adjustment
Supports TIF, PCX, BMP, TGA, JPG, PCD, WMF, and PNG file format (PC)
NewSoft Presto! PageManager 7.10
NewSoft Presto! PageManager 7.10 is powerful document management software for OCR, PDF creation, or format conversion to Microsoft Word or Excel. TWAIN-Express makes it easy to connect with your scanner.
Built-in award-winning OCR
Supports over 100 popular applications
Unlimited nested folders to easily organize files
Full-text search with adjustable fuzzy logic and index search
Easy image editing QuickFix tools with real-time preview
New annotation tools include sticky notes and rubber stamps
Share photos via e-mail easily with Presto! Wrapper
Share photos via the Internet by connecting to PhotoNet
Works with any TWAIN scanner
The Plustek OpticFilm 7600i Ai Scanner has a 7200dpi sensor and produces a 7200dpi file natively. It also has a lower resolution mode -- 3600dpi -- in which only half of the pixel sites are used. So the hardware resolution is user-selectable between 3600 and 7200dpi. Scanning at a resolution lower than 3600dpi will still result in scanning at 3600dpi, and then the software interpolates the resolution down. The scanner's light source comes from a white LED which makes images vivid and dimensional.
The OpticFilm 7600i Ai scans at 48-bit color for extremely accurate and vibrant color images that retain subtle details in the highlight and shadow areas of the scanned image. To minimize noise, the scanner's multi-sampling function makes 4 scan passes that are averaged together so image noise is cancelled out. It has a multi-exposure function that is utilized with negative film or slides to provide improved shadow & highlight detail and provide images with richness and depth that makes your pictures look as if they are three-dimensional.
To achieve high-quality images in under a minute, the 7600i Ai comes with the amazing SilverFast Ai Studio iSRD + MultiExposure software bundle. It includes the iT8 Calibration target which allows users to obtain accurate colors and generates ICC-profile by just one click, and New Soft Presto! ImageFolio 4.5, a comprehensive multimedia image-processing program that allows you to create new images by using a set of image-editing tools and quickly create new images or enhance pre-existing ones.
Also included is New Soft Presto! PageManager 7.10, a powerful document management software for OCR, PDF creation, or format conversion to Microsoft Word or Excel, and the LaserSoft SilverFast Ai Studio iSRD + MultiExposure software bundle, a world class professional scan software equipped with iSRD (Infrared Smart Removal of Defect), which utilizes a combination of hardware and software to automatically eliminate minor flaws, such as dust and scratches, using an infrared channel to detect the flaws.
Scan Slides and Negatives
Two film holders are provided--one is for holding up to four mounted slides, the other is for filmstrips up to 6 frames. The film holders have the added benefit of protecting the film from the scanner mechanisms because there is no physical contact with the media during scanning process.
Multiple Sampling Function
The Plustek multi-sampling function minimizes image noise by making 4 sequential scans for your slide or negative, which are then averaged together in order to cancel out the inconsistencies that are present due to image noise.
Multi-Exposure Function
The multi-exposure function can be utilized with negative film and slides to provide improved shadow & highlight detail and provide images with a richness and depth that makes your pictures look as if they are three dimensional.
iSRD Dust & Scratch Removal
SilverFast iSRD (Infrared Smart Removal of Defect) uses a combination of hardware and software to automatically eliminate minor flaws, such as dust and scratches. Two modes are available - in the Automatic mode, SilverFast iSRD operates completely on its own and applies corrected result to the entire scanned frame. In manual mode, the user can select certain area(s) to work on, and leave the rest untouched. The SilverFast iSRD system does not soften or blur the scanned file and provides the user with an enhanced genuine image.
SilverFast Ai Studio IT8 (Multi-Exposure)
SilverFast Ai Studio IT8 (Multi-Exposure) calibration software allows you to generate ICC color profiles. Using this feature, you can calibrate your scanner using a standard color target which LaserSoft Imaging supplies to you. SilverFast will not only generate a profile, it will also generate its own internal calibration based on the target. This allows enhanced color accuracy.
USB 2.0 High Speed Connection
Providing a high speed connection to your computer, the USB 2.0 interface allows the scanner to operate quickly and seamlessly with your PC.
SilverFast 6.6 Ai Studio iSRD + MultiExposure
SilverFast is a world class professional scan software, with the stand-alone SilverFast Launcher and TWAIN Plug-in applications. It provides casual users and professionals with a powerful tool for scanning, editing, and color reproduction.
SilverFast 6.6 Ai Studio iSRD + MultiExposure comes with more powerful functions featuring Multi-Exposure, SilverFast Basic, AACO, iSRD, SRD, Auto-Adjust, USM, SCC, NegaFix, and many other advance features.
NewSoft Presto! ImageFolio 4.5
ImageFolio is a comprehensive multimedia image-processing program. You can create new images by using the ImageFolio's powerful tools. This sophisticated set of image-editing tools enables you to quickly create new images or enhance pre-existing ones.
Complete image-tuning functions
Easy to manage and preview image files
TWAIN interface support for automatic fine-tuning during scanning
Monitor Gamma adjustment
Supports TIF, PCX, BMP, TGA, JPG, PCD, WMF, and PNG file format (PC)
NewSoft Presto! PageManager 7.10
NewSoft Presto! PageManager 7.10 is powerful document management software for OCR, PDF creation, or format conversion to Microsoft Word or Excel. TWAIN-Express makes it easy to connect with your scanner.
Built-in award-winning OCR
Supports over 100 popular applications
Unlimited nested folders to easily organize files
Full-text search with adjustable fuzzy logic and index search
Easy image editing QuickFix tools with real-time preview
New annotation tools include sticky notes and rubber stamps
Share photos via e-mail easily with Presto! Wrapper
Share photos via the Internet by connecting to PhotoNet
Works with any TWAIN scanner
Jun 10, 2012 18:10:46 #
Regarding the whole scanning negs issue, I think I'll try a negitive photographed with a digital camera with the neg on a light table.
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