jcboy3

No, it was the Nikon D90.

A good article to help clear the air:

http://www.popphoto.com/gear/2013/10/30-most-important-digital-cameras#page-4

The Casio QV-10 was my first digital camera; it did not bring joy to my photography.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

The answer is simple. Each market is different, although they may roll up to gross revenues for a company.

In this we are simply talking about digital cameras, so how many individual cameras are sold, and how much revenue is derived from the sale of those digital cameras. Those markets can be subdivided into different categories, such as P&S, DSLR, Mirroless, fixed lens, ILC, sensor sizes, and so on if you have the data. This is what industry market research companies do. It is the share of the market(s) in terms of either unit shipments and derived revenue. It does not typically include a quality metric. That is a different kind of analyst review, qualitative as opposed to quantitative.

Does that help? There are many ways to cut the numbers and to derive conclusions and prognostications.

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

According to Wikipedia, the D90 was announced in August 2008 and the 5D Mark II in September 2008.

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

If we are real about this, tech innovation is not measured by announcement date. That is easy to game, and is usually done either for advantage or defensively as a spoiler.

To look at real innovation, you need to look at both timing and market acceptance which is typically measured in years, not days or months.

You know how to identify a pioneer don't you? Those are the guys lying face down in the mud with arrows in their backs!

Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.

So how does that make Canon better than Nikon which was SS's suggestion?
It seems to me that both must make good quality cameras to be able to stay in business.

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

CO, your points are well taken. But is all of that small evolutionary steps or huge camera industry shaking innovation?!
BTW, one of the biggest complaints of past Nikon Pros was the lack of being able to quickly change custom modes like on the Canons. When did Nikon go to buttons? Canon has ALWAYS had the 3 customizable settings on the top dial!! There were Pros that went to Canon just because of that customizable dial. So not sure WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO, please explain.
Also, I never use a formal target to Micro Adjust my lenses. I just use any object in the field that has a distinguishable pattern, such as a knothole or a picket fence etc. been doing that since my 5Dll. Maybe Nikon has taken it a step further which would be great. Anything that makes it easier or faster is great for the users!!
And, next you're gonna tell me a $1000 Sigma 150-600 is a super tele?!?! Super tele is not a length, it's a price bracket. That's why few will ever own one. There is ONLY ONE super tele zoom from Nikon, the 200-400!!!
SS

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Com'on Mac, quote where I suggested that?!?!
I said Nikon CAN'T INNOVATE. I never said they are no good. I'll be the first to say they are first rate!! Get it right!
SS

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Honestly, I don't think SS was trying to say that Canon is better than Nikon. I think he was trying to promote discussion and to get people to think about the changing market.

I'm a Canon guy, but could equally well have been a Nikon or other brand person. All the top brands make good cameras, that isn't issue. However the camera market is now a fast moving technology based market, and staying in business can be a crap shoot, it isn't just about good quality product, and it is changing very rapidly.

Today's cameras are merely computers in drag, and as Scott McNealy - founder and ex-CEO of Sun Microsystems once said - "Technology has the shelf life of a banana!"

I agree that making good quality cameras is necessary to stay in business, and Nikon and others certainly make good quality cameras. That may not be sufficient to stay in business however. There is reliable data that shows that Canon is the number one vendor in digital cameras - the deeper data cuts may not be available for free - but that doesn't mean that Canon is sitting fat, dumb and happy. They absolutely do understand that the market is changing and that there is some significant risk to be navigated over the next five or ten years, and that change happens quickly when it hits the tipping point.

Both Canon and Nikon make excellent cameras, yet both are vulnerable to changing market dynamics.

FWIW, I've been working with and monitoring technology market dynamics since the 1980s in various professional capacities. The patterns do either repeat or rhyme in many circumstances. Change is the only constant.

This is much more about company survival than it is about good quality products. Minolta ( err, should I say Sony now) made good quality cameras also! Sony still does, with Minolta's help!

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Leitz, I'm not familiar with their services. So before I call them, please inform me!
Did they treat you well?
Were you happy with their treatments?
Do they use modern gentle techniques or did they just give you a quick lobotomy and say "pay me"?!?!
Would you use them again??
You are, after all, recommending them!!!!
SS

n3eg Loc: West coast USA

Why can't Canon or Nikon innovate like Olympus? Think about what that would mean...5 axis IS...sensor shift 100mp images...and oh yeah, that M word!

Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada

It's time to get on with some thing really important , is Campbell tomato soup made with that much better inovations than Hunts or Almore . I lie awake at nights trying to figure that perplexing question out , some say it is , but just as many say no , have to take a pole and vote . But then Puten will mess that up

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

Are you looking for a serious answer? Olympus has a degree of commercial freedom to innovate, that Nikon and Canon do not currently have to the same extent.

In the words of Kris Kristofferson, "Freedom’s just another name for nothing left to lose." Read this: http://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanielparishflannery/2011/10/25/a-setting-sun-recent-scandal-at-olympus-a-sign-of-deeper-governance-issues-at-japanese-companies/#7fee0ae63e59

Canon and Nikon are market leaders, they have significant businesses to protect and have a fiduciary responsibility to be more cautious commercially.

Olympus makes great products, but they are not in the same commercial environment as Nikon and Canon.

Even the best companies and artists sometimes fall by the wayside: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfjon-ZTqzU

And brand wars are seldom productive! : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qev-i9-VKlY

tdekany Loc: Oregon

Pro capture! Live comp! Sync IS (6.5 stops)

PS: it is 80mp raw files, 50mp jpegs

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Branmy, you fill you're pretty little head with too much worry.
Nobody cares if Hunts puts more water into the soup than does Campell.
What we're talking about here is who put it into a CAN FIRST, then who just jumped onto the can band wagon?
If this is just too difficult for you to comprehend, let me know and I'll run right on over and hold your hand as you click on Leitz's link!!!!!!!!
After that, you can Put'em In your pants for all I care!!!! LoL
SS

Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.

mp or MB? Just curious? An 80 mp raw or 50 mp jpeg sounds interesting. Could be quick to download though!

Is that 'mp' meaning milli-pixel? Could be an interesting innovation, although potentially challenging for large prints!

Or is it mB, Mb, or MB? They all mean different things.

Really not trying to pick a fight, but the capitalization does have a real meaning.