jeep_daddy wrote:
If your theory is sound, then ask yourself why would anyone buy a Ford Fiesta. It's small, cheap and has an underpowered engine. Why aren't people buying the Ford Flex instead? Who needs a Fiesta when you can get a large powerful Flex and go anywhere with it.
See, your question is full of holes. They make different cameras because people don't all have the same budget and some can get by with fewer bells and whistles, smaller sensor, less expensive lenses, etc.
I can tell you one advantage to a DX camera body versus an FX. I have a lot of friends that shoot birds. At least half of them prefer the effect that a DX body gives them versus an FX when using super telephoto lenses. You see when using a 600mm lens on a DX body, it will give you an effective reach of 900mm. Add a 1.4x to that and you've got an effective reach of 1260mm. If using a 600mm on a FX with 1.4x you have 840mm.
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Although the optical image on the sensor will be the same size no matter what size the sensor
Peterff
Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
SteveR wrote:
Great Blues rendition, Peter. I was looking for a Ray Charles version of this when I happened across Al Hirt's, which I am familiar with (I have the record). I'd love to hear Ray's version.
I hope you and your family have a Happy New Year as well, Peter. I'll have a good one if Michigan wins tonight!!
Hmm! Haven't heard Ray Charles sing it, I'll have to search for it, but I have always loved his performance of "In the Heat of the Night", a great movie. Good luck with the game!
In the Heat of the Night - Ray Charles
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Bugfan wrote:
twr25 ...
Why would anyone buy a DX camera? Well first of all if you didn't grow up with film, DX is simply another format and nothing more.
Taking this view, DX has smaller camera bodies and lenses, consider the difference between an entry level DSLR and a high end professional one. DX is also cheaper both for the camera and the lenses. DX has an enormous reach compared to FX so when you're after wildlife that's the way to go. And these days in terms of camera features, DX is at least as good technologically against FX. Having said all that I think we should be asking why anyone would buy FX gear instead.
But there is a reason. The larger sensor, for the same resolution with the DX sensor will have physically larger pixels which will result in superior image quality. The other reason is that we, who grew up with film, buy FX because we know what kinds of images we can get And of course those who eventually also discover FX get sold on that too. If you recall in the film days 35 mm was frowned upon in favour of medium format, 610 and 120 film. Medium format always produced better results than 35 mm though the gap was gradually closing. FX today is our medium format though that makes me wonder what we should be calling the hasselblad format now.
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A DX camera has no more "reach" than an FX camera.
SteveR wrote:
Great Blues rendition, Peter. I was looking for a Ray Charles version of this when I happened across Al Hirt's, which I am familiar with (I have the record). I'd love to hear Ray's version.
I hope you and your family have a Happy New Year as well, Peter. I'll have a good one if Michigan wins tonight!!
Hell No... They were Raped by Florida State Last Night!
74images
I have one of Each FX D810 DX D500 different strokes for different purposes. Saying that I have used the 200-500 on the D810 with excellent results But the D500 gives me a better burst and buffer rate
Could it be the difference between what we want, and what we really need?
--Beagleman
jeep_daddy wrote:
If your theory is sound, then ask yourself why would anyone buy a Ford Fiesta. It's small, cheap and has an underpowered engine. Why aren't people buying the Ford Flex instead? Who needs a Fiesta when you can get a large powerful Flex and go anywhere with it.
See, your question is full of holes. They make different cameras because people don't all have the same budget and some can get by with fewer bells and whistles, smaller sensor, less expensive lenses, etc.
I can tell you one advantage to a DX camera body versus an FX. I have a lot of friends that shoot birds. At least half of them prefer the effect that a DX body gives them versus an FX when using super telephoto lenses. You see when using a 600mm lens on a DX body, it will give you an effective reach of 900mm. Add a 1.4x to that and you've got an effective reach of 1260mm. If using a 600mm on a FX with 1.4x you have 840mm.
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UH OH! Someone is going to start arguing again that a 600mm lens is still a 600mm lens no matter what camera you put it on.
twr25 wrote:
I see all the posts about lens swapping but my question is why would anyone purchase a NEW DX?
I know all digitals were DX at one time and there is still support and lenses.
But when FX cameras are available why buy a new DX today? I don't see any advantage.
I know my pro-photo neighbor swore he would never leave film he has since changed his mind.
Is it loyalty and familiarity or is there any real reason for new DX cameras; any advantages?
For the same reasons people buy FF instead of Medium Format or View Cameras.
Back in the seventies medium format was significantly more expensive than 35 mm and the cameras and lenses were larger and heavier too. In the digital world this doesn't seem to have changed. Top dollar in FF bodies seems to be around $8K or so. Entry price for medium format seems to be around $25K. That is quite a difference. Then carrying them around is an exercise in lugging gear. I think that's why they're not selling better than FF cameras. As to view cameras, digital sensors aren't in the four by five inch size yet and if they were you'd need a mortgage to afford them. But who knows, maybe one day they may become affordable too. The only problem is that with the view camera you're not going to shoot much since most of the time you're setting up. The FF cameras really are more convenient and fast and affordable which is what started the 35 mm revolution after all.
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
twr25 wrote:
I see all the posts about lens swapping but my question is why would anyone purchase a NEW DX?
I know all digitals were DX at one time and there is still support and lenses.
But when FX cameras are available why buy a new DX today? I don't see any advantage.
I know my pro-photo neighbor swore he would never leave film he has since changed his mind.
Is it loyalty and familiarity or is there any real reason for new DX cameras; any advantages?
Effective megs at the long end. My 200-500 mm FX lens mounted on my DX D500 body gives me the crop factor of 750 mm at the far end. If I am shooting a bird at a distance with my DX body compared to my FX body, I end up with more EFFECTIVE MEGS with the DX body cause I am filling more of the frame with the bird than I could have with the FX body. So, the DX body is alive and well and will continue to be as long as wildlife fly, swim, and run.
I am sure by this point most of the points have been made but here is what and why I bought both the D750 and a D500. For me they do different specific things. Oh and the cost - two bodies and still 2.5K below the D5. Now that is not to say the D5 isn't the marvel that it is - I just chose this path. D750 is for landscapes, portraits and stills (not suggesting it can't do a whole lot more). D500 for sports, action and reach (not suggesting it can't do a whole lot more). I have been very happy with both bodies or different reasons. They are absolute technological marvels. So which ever way you go - or perhaps both - enjoy!!
Happy New Year Hogs!
The D500 is probably one of the finest cameras made.
I have DX because it is lightweight (I'm small and have weak hands and arms). At normal shooting focal lengths, I have more depth of focus, so I have a better chance of my whole subject being sharp. The lenses and bodies are cheaper, as I have a limited income. My D5100 has a built in flash, (which I set at minus 1, so it is used mainly as a fill flash), and an articulated screen, so I have much more versatility in shooting angles. The quality of images for projecting on an LCD, or printing up to 16x20 is all I need. So, no need for FF, but kudos to those who go for the quality and have the strength and resources to get and effectively use all that awesome FF equipment!
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