Putting the cart Before the Horse (50mm Lense)
Dec 25, 2016 13:08:06 #
amfoto1
Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
Jim Bob wrote:
This site is replete with dumb questions...
Plus a few snide trolls who hang out here just to knock other folks posts and never contribute anything worthwhile.
Dec 25, 2016 13:43:36 #
amfoto1 wrote:
Plus a few snide trolls who hang out here just to knock other folks posts and never contribute anything worthwhile.
Dec 25, 2016 13:58:03 #
catchlight..
Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
50mm is a very good portrait lens on FF and a considered part of the holy trinity by many. Not good for head shots but it is at the beginning focal length for portait work. Anyone who discounts the 50mm size is obviously an amateur photographer ;) ...but many amateurs do have the 50mm and don't outsmart themselves with poor assumptions. 50mm is not so good for an 80mm equivalent on crop but still a good choice for general photography. This is a pretty good article explaining why if your interested...http://neilvn.com/tangents/full-frame-vs-crop-sensor-cameras-comparison-depth-of-field/
Dec 25, 2016 14:55:33 #
vininnj2u wrote:
I am getting a 50mm lens to use with my Canon 80D. My other lenses are 18-135mm stm, 100-400mmLseries lens. Where can I expect to use the 50mm lens?
It's particularly good for head shots.
Dec 25, 2016 15:40:21 #
Bram boy
Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
1Feathercrest wrote:
The 50mm lens gives you the natural perspective that you see. Other lenses create a distorted (telescopic or micro) view of what you see.
I dident know the 80 d was a full frame camera , I was thinking it give the perspective of a 75 mm on a dx camera , that
Would make it a good portrate lens
Dec 25, 2016 15:41:51 #
mas24
Loc: Southern CA
I bought a 50mm f1.8, and I use it on a DX camera that gives me a FOV of 75mm. On a 135mm format camera, you get a definite 50mm range. And it has been said, that on a 135mm format camera, you see exactly what the eyes see. The 50mm f1.8 can be purchased inexpensively for around $200. It's great using on the sidelines, taking action still photos with a DX camera, at kids soccer games, in daylight hours. I would imagine a 50mm f1.4 would be better for night games under the lights. But it's more expensive.
Dec 25, 2016 16:26:15 #
Bram boy
Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
catchlight.. wrote:
50mm is a very good portrait lens on FF and a cons... (show quote)
But a 70mm or a 75mm is a better one for that same shot on a ff than a 50mm , you don't have to get right in the subjects face , makes them a bit more relaxed than sticking a camera up there nose .
Dec 25, 2016 16:37:32 #
Its true that the first thing we all do on acquiring a 1.2, 1.4, even a 1,8 nifty 50 is rush too
the nearest coal bin to test it but if you want to wallow in the "goodness" of your new lens
then shut it down to 3.5 -> 5.6 and find a suitable subject.
Even the cheap $600 50's will run circles around some of the $2000 zooms.
the nearest coal bin to test it but if you want to wallow in the "goodness" of your new lens
then shut it down to 3.5 -> 5.6 and find a suitable subject.
Even the cheap $600 50's will run circles around some of the $2000 zooms.
Dec 25, 2016 22:40:37 #
Bram boy wrote:
I dident know the 80 d was a full frame camera , I was thinking it give the perspective of a 75 mm on a dx camera , that
Would make it a good portrate lens
Would make it a good portrate lens
The 80D is most assuredly not a full-frame camera - it's an APS-C form, with a crop factor of 1.6, making a 50mm lens function as if it were an 80mm lens.
Dec 25, 2016 23:04:57 #
Architect1776 wrote:
Yup. You can do that but you will get a slow zoom lens instead of a fast prime lens. A f1.8 18-135 zoom if you could find it would be large, heavy and expensive. Setting the zoom lens to 50mm will give you the perspective of the 50mm prime but you will lose the bokeh in portraits that the fast prime can provide.Set your 18-135 lens to 50mm. Leave it there and s... (show quote)
Dec 25, 2016 23:51:19 #
jcboy3 wrote:
50 50 50...the myth of the 50 just keeps coming. Yes, the earliest rangefinders had ~50mm lenses (51.6, 52.3 and the whole Nikon fiasco). Mostly due to the ease of developing such lenses. But "normal" is usually defined as the diagonal of the film, and thats about 43mm. And Rangefinders had lenses that ran from 50 down to 35. In fact, there were a whole bunch of "fast 35", i.e. f/1.8 or f/2, rangefinders. My Yashica from the early 70's had a 40mm lens...
As the 50 offers slight magnification, it's not perfect by any stretch. As I mentioned, my instructor insisted on single-lens usage for a lot of assignments. I used everything from 28mm, up through and including, the 200mm as "normal". I knew several photographers at the local newspaper. Their "normal" lens was the 105mm f2.5. This was a short telephoto. However, it allowed the photographer to get "up close and personal", without getting up too close and too personal. Since Tri-X was usually pushed to 800 or 1200, the f2.5 aperture worked.
"Normal" is really a misnomer. There are ideal focal lengths for most any shot, and use of a zoom does make the job easier.
Since my photography class was an art elective, it was all about lighting, composition, and exposure. A lot of folks used Yashica TL Electro's, Canon QL RF's, almost any camera that wasn't point and shoot.
Dec 25, 2016 23:59:11 #
catchlight..
Loc: Wisconsin USA- Halden Norway
First off remember you do loose a full stop of DOF when you use the 50mm on a crop camera over use on a FF body. Close up head shots for the 50? depends on the face. Some say 85mm... but it's just better for perspective to begin at 100mm or greater if you want it right...Body and waste up are no problem for the 50 or 85 :)
Dec 26, 2016 00:11:30 #
oldtigger wrote:
Even the cheap $600 50's will run circles around some of the $2000 zooms.
Name even one specific 50mm fixed focal length lens that cost $600 or less that will "run circles" around any $2000 zoom that hits 50mm.
One of the most significant things those $2000 zooms can do is change focal length to 60mm, and not one single fixed focal length 50mm lens can do that. It is always the zoom that can run the circles...
Dec 26, 2016 00:20:45 #
My lenses that were 2.8 did not give me enough light in the house for things like opening Christmas presents. So I bought a 50mm 1.8 and that gave me what I needed. Stick that lens in your camera bag and pull it out when you need more light.
Dec 26, 2016 00:21:46 #
My lenses that were 2.8 did not give me enough light in the house for things like opening Christmas presents. So I bought a 50mm 1.8 and that gave me what I needed. Stick that lens in your camera bag and pull it out when you need more light.
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