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Oct 29, 2016 21:41:39   #
Rongnongno Loc: FL
 
To Kmgw9v
TheStarvingArtist (TSA) wrote:
You do not have any valid expectations from me unless you hire me to create something for you.
Kmgw9v wrote:
Some take themselves too seriously. No explanation.

Apparently you are one of them as you consider yourself an authority able to judge w/o justification.

TSA is absolutely right, you or anyone else cannot have any expectation unless someone is hired to do a specific job from photography to building a house. Once one pays for something one can expect a specific result. If the truth in TSA statement escapes you, well, you need to justify your statement.

If I order a steak 'bleu' in a restaurant I expect it to come out seared, not cooked rare when I get. I will pay for it so the restaurant will need to deliver. If I want a specific image of my house, I will expect the photographer or painter to fulfill my demand before I pay the reminder I owe.

TSA statement implies that she will comply with her client expectation if hired. THAT is a professional statement, not some evaluation of an internet non-entity. THAT is what a client expect. THAT is a serious statement.

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Oct 30, 2016 07:01:30   #
Tom G Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
digit-up wrote:
For a couple of Butt-ugly guys, you seem to be pretty damned smart, and right on. I'm dazzled and proud of you both, RJM


Thanks for the compliment, RJM

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Oct 30, 2016 08:48:32   #
insman1132 Loc: Southwest Florida
 
What do I think?? I think you enjoy being "on the edge" with some of your work. I like it.

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Oct 30, 2016 11:48:54   #
redhogbill Loc: antelope, calif
 
TheStarvingArtist wrote:
I like it when my work evokes an emotional response. I just received this compliment:

"Most of your work seems to be 'hard' (not as hardcore). It feels angry, disturbed in some way.
The link to your image feels like a self portrait that is between self loathing and despair.
My 'interpretation' or opinion is likely off the mark but this is how I interpret many of your posts, especially the composites that try to create a 'new reality' that is dark, a bit 'goth'."

this is the image that was linked http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-419381-1.html

Now I am curious what others think. Will you take some time and look thru my pictures and share with me your opinions? What kind of emotional feelings do you have when you view them? What impression of myself or my models do you have?

Thank you
I like it when my work evokes an emotional respons... (show quote)



Life is hard!! depicting it in photography can be hard , I love the photo of the girl in the shower with the whiskey bottle, I might have added some {simulated} hard drugs !!! .. the Halloween photo, although seems more animated than grunge!! keep up the good work!!

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Oct 31, 2016 14:52:59   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
Look- you told a story... it isn't a pleasant story, nor a photo of something you'd like to revisit. Neither are photos of dead babies. Not Her fault! She's obviously ok- well kept, in shape... and you shot it ok to tell this "story" but we are left to wonder "why?" Like hitting the 8-Ball on the break- did you call it? Tell me how or where you'd hang this? You seem to have responded positively to the "Hard" "Angry" "Disturbed" description. But those are the same responses to judge someone when they view Rorschach Inkblots... so these descriptions aren't necessarily a complement on cutting edge technique or composition or subject matter. The photo is dark and dingy, she appears to be uncomfortably stuck on the corner of too small a ledge, with a stained wall behind her... looking down and covering herself up... i mean i see stuff like this on the Walking Dead LOL. It's simply depressing on many levels. She is more naked that any of the other nudes I have seen here IMHO- in fact I'd rush to help cover her up and promise not to look while i did it. None of the things I like nudes for. . ... so is it an act or reality.. if its reality- you are invading her space. If make believe- I have to ask for what honest purpose???

So you did that... now go back and make her beautiful and enticing like she obviously is - something she'd can be proud of... I'd much prefer that. Reminds me of the Tim Burton version of batman... it was too foreboding, dark and mean- the Penguin was gross where as Nicholson had the right mix of humor and danger... but then Burton seems to produce everything he does like that- Halloween movie was brilliant, corpse bride... not so much. maybe there is a market for it - but its very tricky... not sure this is in either camp.

Anyways- you asked for the critique.

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Oct 31, 2016 17:42:18   #
TheStarvingArtist
 
RichieC wrote:
Look- you told a story... it isn't a pleasant story, nor a photo of something you'd like to revisit. Neither are photos of dead babies. Not Her fault! She's obviously ok- well kept, in shape... and you shot it ok to tell this "story" but we are left to wonder "why?" Like hitting the 8-Ball on the break- did you call it? Tell me how or where you'd hang this? You seem to have responded positively to the "Hard" "Angry" "Disturbed" description. But those are the same responses to judge someone when they view Rorschach Inkblots... so these descriptions aren't necessarily a complement on cutting edge technique or composition or subject matter. The photo is dark and dingy, she appears to be uncomfortably stuck on the corner of too small a ledge, with a stained wall behind her... looking down and covering herself up... i mean i see stuff like this on the Walking Dead LOL. It's simply depressing on many levels. She is more naked that any of the other nudes I have seen here IMHO- in fact I'd rush to help cover her up and promise not to look while i did it. None of the things I like nudes for. . ... so is it an act or reality.. if its reality- you are invading her space. If make believe- I have to ask for what honest purpose???

Do you mean something like this? http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-408539-1.html

So you did that... now go back and make her beautiful and enticing like she obviously is - something she'd can be proud of... I'd much prefer that. Reminds me of the Tim Burton version of batman... it was too foreboding, dark and mean- the Penguin was gross where as Nicholson had the right mix of humor and danger... but then Burton seems to produce everything he does like that- Halloween movie was brilliant, corpse bride... not so much. maybe there is a market for it - but its very tricky... not sure this is in either camp.

Anyways- you asked for the critique.
Look- you told a story... it isn't a pleasant sto... (show quote)


Something like this?
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-408539-1.html

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