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Oct 1, 2016 17:26:30   #
coj Loc: NJ, USA
 
I'll add to that....on the right side of the house is a staircase bannister. Examine it closely and you will see that the stairs have been cut up, so that the distance between the bannister and the house is too small for anyone to fit through. The Sherlock Holmes in me says that there was once a wrap around porch between the front and the right side, and when someone decided to add the turret over the porch they chopped up the second staircase, left the remains for some unknown reason, and put the turret right on top. That turret looks like an add-on, as does the second floor porch.


SteveR wrote:
That depends, tinwhistle. When hung like this, the stars are supposed to be hung either to the north or to the east. So, we would need to know which way the street runs in front of the house in order to know whether the flag is hung correctly or not. I still say the peculiarity is behind the door on the second floor!!

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Oct 1, 2016 18:22:52   #
cheineck Loc: Hobe Sound, FL
 
lamiaceae wrote:
I've taken Cell shots of cars or people that seem out of place in my neighborhood (and I fairly) sure they do not live on my street or nearby. The most recent occurrence I actually drove by a car stopped on my street rolled down the window and asked them "what's up?" The answer was "I'm waiting for my cousin ...". Made enough sense. I was feel especially bold that day as my neighborhood is not great and one might be questioning a gang member.

So far I have not had any real issues with photographing buildings. Only once a commercial office building manager came out and asked me what I was doing. I explained I was taking photos for a photo class. I had been in the "inside" courtyard as well, so his inquiry was not unexpected. Though it was a building I've been in many time before and since for seeing one of the client business tenants. Whence I knew there was anything worth photographing. I've taken images from the side walk of homes, but try to stay off their property. But then again, in the old days this was with a tripod and huge view camera. I'm sure the home owner would not figure crooks or other nefarious people would spend that much time or carry around heavy equipment.

What is the line from a Kinks song? "Paranoia It Destroy Ya."
I've taken Cell shots of cars or people that seem ... (show quote)


I take a camera and a 9mm S&W. Works for me.

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Oct 1, 2016 18:27:14   #
dreamon
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
If you believe that try to open carry in the mall if the mall prohibits guns...
I bet you will be asked to leave quickly...

Best,
Todd Ferguson
Harrisburg, NC


Cameras do not have the potential to kill. Very apples and oranges.

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Oct 1, 2016 19:24:44   #
cheineck Loc: Hobe Sound, FL
 
dreamon wrote:
Cameras do not have the potential to kill. Very apples and oranges.


Ever been in West Palm Beach or Newark, NJ at 4AM? I'll take the S&W or Kimber .38+P over a "Canon" every time. That's an exaggeration but getting closer to the truth every day. Wish it were not so.

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Oct 1, 2016 21:31:30   #
tinwhistle
 
I haven't looked at the second floor yet. Flag etiquette calls for the blue field of stars to be on the "Flags" right. Can't say that I've ever heard of that "North or East" thing. If there is anything to that, then the flag is hung properly, blue field to the north. But that negates the whole idea of the blue field to the flags right. Sounds like too many exceptions to me.

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Oct 1, 2016 22:07:43   #
Ron SS Loc: Silver Spring, MD
 
cheineck wrote:
Ever been in West Palm Beach or Newark, NJ at 4AM? I'll take the S&W or Kimber .38+P over a "Canon" every time. That's an exaggeration but getting closer to the truth every day. Wish it were not so.


I don't know West Palm. but for parts of Newark, unfortunately no exaggeration.

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Oct 1, 2016 23:10:04   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
dreamon wrote:
Cameras do not have the potential to kill. Very apples and oranges.


Appears that you have never swung a Canon 1D with a 70-200 2.8 II.
I guarantee you could kill someone with that combo...
Even more lethal at the end if a BlackRapid Sport strap...

Best,
Todd Ferguson
Harrisburg, NC

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Oct 2, 2016 00:23:44   #
Collie lover Loc: St. Louis, MO
 
In most states, I don't believe it's illegal to take pictures of property from a public street. However, I believe it is illegal to go onto someone's property and take pictures. That would be trespassing, even if no signs are posted.

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Oct 2, 2016 01:15:47   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
tinwhistle wrote:
I haven't looked at the second floor yet. Flag etiquette calls for the blue field of stars to be on the "Flags" right. Can't say that I've ever heard of that "North or East" thing. If there is anything to that, then the flag is hung properly, blue field to the north. But that negates the whole idea of the blue field to the flags right. Sounds like too many exceptions to me.


This information is the same as in a .gov website, but the writing in the .gov website was cut off.

http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html

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Oct 2, 2016 07:05:26   #
dreamon
 
Notorious T.O.D. wrote:
Appears that you have never swung a Canon 1D with a 70-200 2.8 II.
I guarantee you could kill someone with that combo...
Even more lethal at the end if a BlackRapid Sport strap...

Best,
Todd Ferguson
Harrisburg, NC


Too true. I used to shoot with one of these:


Now, that's a weapon!




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Oct 2, 2016 07:15:34   #
Notorious T.O.D. Loc: Harrisburg, North Carolina
 
Now that's what I'm talking about....😎😎😎😎

Best,
Todd Ferguson
Harrisburg, NC

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Oct 2, 2016 09:26:53   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
This topic has hit a nerve in this forum. Politics and culture (in many cases driven by the media) are very important to me.
When I see children even if their parents are distracted (which is all the time) I smile and keep their stare in sight.
The last couple of days to very young children said "hello" and I returned the stare andgreeting. And in most cases
they smile. I love children. Want them to know their are adults in the world who appreciate and want to be friendly.
It works! My neighbor with young children is very shy or not friendly. He has these wonderful little girls that I here all
the time. I always say when I see them "hello girls". What kind of a world do we live in if we raise paranoid children.
Where technology is creating introverts. Well we are starting to see the results.
Myself and my parents lived in Brooklyn NY and were very friendly to everyone. My beautiful smart 9 year-old grand daughter
always tells me grandpa you talk to everyone. I think that everyone feels something is missing. Community and
the relationship of people is what is missing.

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Oct 2, 2016 21:49:13   #
David in Dallas Loc: Dallas, Texas, USA
 
SteveR wrote:
Nice pictures, David, but we're talking about Photographers' Rights and what we can do legally. Why would you post photos that were actually taken illegally and against, in the case, the Church's wishes?

Could it be that very good photos were available for purchase in a gift shop?
No, there is no gift shop there. I would have gone that route if there had been. I would also have gladly paid a fee for the privilege (which some churches do), but that route was closed also. And if there had been a worship service going on at the time, I also would not have done it. In response to your question, I doubt that it is against the law to take pictures there, just against the church's wishes. I'm sorry if you were offended--that was not my intention.

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Oct 3, 2016 08:04:44   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
David in Dallas wrote:
No, there is no gift shop there. I would have gone that route if there had been. I would also have gladly paid a fee for the privilege (which some churches do), but that route was closed also. And if there had been a worship service going on at the time, I also would not have done it. In response to your question, I doubt that it is against the law to take pictures there, just against the church's wishes. I'm sorry if you were offended--that was not my intention.


David....You didn't understand the question. This thread is about photographers' rights. Rights to take photos from public places. You've posted photos from a private place where you were asked not to take photos. That is not an illustration of the assertion of a right, but an illustration of a photographer doing what he wishes on private property despite what he had been asked not to do. Without getting a license or prior permission ahead of time, you're exactly the reason that photographers have a hard time when they ARE within their rights. So, despite the fact that you feel that your photo of an excellent piece of art was worth trampling on the rights of others.....and you're posting it here as if to say, "look what my bad deed resulted in," the rest is that us poor bums have to sweep up the scat the undisciplined leave behind. I.E. If all behaved professionally, then perhaps we wouldn't be accosted by neighbors and the police so often.

Long story short....you have no excuse and your photo is ill gotten gain. You're too old to be proud of your poopoos.

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Oct 3, 2016 09:54:32   #
hcmcdole
 
Peterff wrote:
Some do, for charity...


OUCH! Hope that fallen woman just suffered a bruise or two along with some embarrassment!

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