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Sep 21, 2016 14:10:51   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Kuzano wrote:
Well, the Nikon 8008s was extremely well received and quite sought after. More pro level. You may have missed it by an s!

Yes, it was a step forward and there was an "s" and it worked well, bit I never liked the feel interface ( I think it looked better than Canon's T-90)
Later mine became an F801 after the plastic cracked. Camera face-lift?

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Sep 21, 2016 14:32:01   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
GoofyNewfie wrote:
Yes, it was a step forward and there was an "s" and it worked well, bit I never liked the feel interface ( I think it looked better than Canon's T-90)
Later mine became an F801 after the plastic cracked. Camera face-lift?


Interesting, I guess it is all subjective. I think the Nikon 8008s looked really clunky, neither one thing nor another, but I loved the look and feel of the T90, and still do. It feels so good in the hand, and picking one up - just fired the shutter a few times - I can also understand why it got call 'The Tank'. It is a solid beast. It's also funny how so many modern DSLRs from many vendors look very similar to the T90. At least to me, the T90 looks like a thoroughbred race horse, and the Nikon 8008s looks like a camel. I'm sure the Nikon 8008s was a great camera, but perception is such an individual thing!

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Sep 21, 2016 14:42:57   #
terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii
 
Film is a fun way to as you are saying slow down, and think about your shot rather than snap away until you get one you like.
Bike guy wrote:
I am one of those guys who likes to try new and OLD things. I have a vinyl collection where I have been replacing records I had from the 50's and forward. Turntable et al.
Sold my SLR's years ago; shot Canon and Konica back then.
So now I have a Nikon 7000, 3100 and a Sony a6000 with a couple of lenses (28-70) AF-D and a 50mm. They both obviously work on my 7000. (I also have several other DX lenses. ) No Canon lenses.

When I was shooting film, I was always too poor to purchase Nikon. At least that is what I thought.
So now I have the 'itch' to finally own a Nikon 35mm SLR.
Regarding the issues of finding labs to develop and print, I understand the cost and time wait.
I am thinking that perhaps shooting film, will slow me down, only take good pictures (I can't seem to force myself to do that with the digital) and really learn composition.
Nikon FM 100 I understand is a great camera and can be purchased relatively cheap.

Will the two Nikon lenses I already own, be good enough? The 50mm 1.8 D lens takes great shot on my 7000.

Most of my photography of late has been landscapes and I am wanting to branch out more into B&W.

Thoughts?
Thanks
Jim
I am one of those guys who likes to try new and OL... (show quote)

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Sep 21, 2016 15:02:39   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
shelty wrote:
Film has a quality that digital can never achieve and when it comes to B+W you can't beat it. -- Says who???
Develop your own film and then scan it. -- Here you have just defeated the purpose of film, and lost some of the detail that was in the film in the beginning. So, why not just go directly digital and have all the controls that Photoshop or similar programs have to offer without having to change formats in midstream?
The advantages of digital are many including film speed, much wider range between shadows and highlights, and much more.
Been there, done that.
Film has a quality that digital can never achieve ... (show quote)


Or develop it and print it (no scanning except to share images electronically)

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Sep 21, 2016 15:14:47   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
TriX wrote:
Absolutely agree! Good washing (and perhaps a hypo clearing agent) to remove the hypo (fixer) is the key to prevent long-term yellowing. I, like you, have prints that were inadequately washed (by others), and I've had to scan, PP, and reprint using archival inks and paper.

And Velvia is my personal favorite color film of all time (not casting any aspersions on legendary Kodachrome!)


I used a mix of Kodachrome 64, Velvia 50, Ektachrome 400, Ektachrome SO-366 for flash duplicates, Ektachrome 5071 duplicating film for tungsten backlit dupes, Kodalith 6556 for masks, and Ektachrome 64T on the copy stand. Lots of Wess glass mounts. Clear Light SuperStar on Apple //e, controlling 12 slide projectors and 15 auxiliary devices... for 8 years, the most fun I ever had at work.

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Sep 21, 2016 15:15:27   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
Bike guy wrote:
I am one of those guys who likes to try new and OLD things. I have a vinyl collection where I have been replacing records I had from the 50's and forward. Turntable et al.
Sold my SLR's years ago; shot Canon and Konica back then.
So now I have a Nikon 7000, 3100 and a Sony a6000 with a couple of lenses (28-70) AF-D and a 50mm. They both obviously work on my 7000. (I also have several other DX lenses. ) No Canon lenses.

When I was shooting film, I was always too poor to purchase Nikon. At least that is what I thought.
So now I have the 'itch' to finally own a Nikon 35mm SLR.
Regarding the issues of finding labs to develop and print, I understand the cost and time wait.
I am thinking that perhaps shooting film, will slow me down, only take good pictures (I can't seem to force myself to do that with the digital) and really learn composition.
Nikon FM 100 I understand is a great camera and can be purchased relatively cheap.

Will the two Nikon lenses I already own, be good enough? The 50mm 1.8 D lens takes great shot on my 7000.

Most of my photography of late has been landscapes and I am wanting to branch out more into B&W.

Thoughts?
Thanks
Jim
I am one of those guys who likes to try new and OL... (show quote)


The only reason I see is if you want to shoot film. Don't forget the expense of processing and never knowing what you have until that processing is complete.

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Sep 21, 2016 15:26:56   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
This has been an interesting and a long thread, although I think it has a very short answer.

If you don't have at least one film camera, and you want one, then the answer is yes, there is a good reason to purchase one. If you don't want a film camera, or even know why you might want one, then there is not a good reason to purchase one. I keep mine for nostalgia's sake primarily, but they do work. What I do not have is an extensive set of lenses for them, just a few.

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Sep 21, 2016 16:26:10   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Peterff wrote:
This has been an interesting and a long thread, although I think it has a very short answer.

If you don't have at least one film camera, and you want one, then the answer is yes, there is a good reason to purchase one. If you don't want a film camera, or even know why you might want one, then there is not a good reason to purchase one. I keep mine for nostalgia's sake primarily, but they do work. What I do not have is an extensive set of lenses for them, just a few.




Same here. I will sell them soon, though.

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Sep 21, 2016 16:42:31   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
Peterff wrote:
Still farting, or still farting as well as you used to?


Now there is a post you don't want to follow through :)

Actually while I'm here I might as well talk about my canon EOS600 which was bought almost accidentally due to the lens that was on it and old EOS telephoto. Which I wanted for my 1D Mark II. The EOS600 is almost digital and can use EF lenses it has automatic focus automatic film advance rewind and uses a relatively expensive battery about $18 if you can find one. It is actually 2 cells in a plastic frame so i took it apart and with a bit of tinfoil foam and super glue adapted it to take rechargable batteries 123 somethings The Charger and cells cost less than one regular battery from HK although they are about 2/3rd the charge of the regular battery pack. They work well.

I'm a fan of old M42 lenses and the same adapter that i use for for my 1D works just as well on my EOS600. :)

There is a lot to be said for staying in family since you can share lenses between digital and film camera's that way. If you are using a crop sensor digital camera you also can use your full frame lenses at their intended focal length and crop. So a cautious investment in film is no bad thing.

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Sep 21, 2016 18:02:32   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
blackest wrote:
Now there is a post you don't want to follow through :)

Actually while I'm here I might as well talk about my canon EOS600 which was bought almost accidentally due to the lens that was on it and old EOS telephoto. Which I wanted for my 1D Mark II. The EOS600 is almost digital and can use EF lenses it has automatic focus automatic film advance rewind and uses a relatively expensive battery about $18 if you can find one. It is actually 2 cells in a plastic frame so i took it apart and with a bit of tinfoil foam and super glue adapted it to take rechargable batteries 123 somethings The Charger and cells cost less than one regular battery from HK although they are about 2/3rd the charge of the regular battery pack. They work well.

I'm a fan of old M42 lenses and the same adapter that i use for for my 1D works just as well on my EOS600. :)

There is a lot to be said for staying in family since you can share lenses between digital and film camera's that way. If you are using a crop sensor digital camera you also can use your full frame lenses at their intended focal length and crop. So a cautious investment in film is no bad thing.
Now there is a post you don't want to follow throu... (show quote)


I just bought a Canon 1Dn to use as my primary film shooter. It's full Auto and uses all my modern EOS lenses. The grip uses AA batteries so I don't use the expensive special batteries. I think the whole shebang cost $150 at KEH.
But my goal is to produce film shots not to experience some kind of nostalgic high. Other than the film look, nostalgia has zero place in my photography.
People once raced 1960 Indy cars but they no longer do it because they will get their butts kicked by a modern race car!! Cameras are no different. LoL
SS

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Sep 21, 2016 18:13:59   #
Shots Loc: Dillon, Colorado
 
For all around quality and price I use the Epson Flat Bed Scanner 4490 its been revised to a newer model but they both come with negative holders up to 4x5..check out Amazon for these scanners..Just my proffessional opinon..Best shopping regards

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Sep 21, 2016 18:16:11   #
Shots Loc: Dillon, Colorado
 
I totally disagree with you...re-read very carefully what you just said and posted!

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Sep 21, 2016 18:58:20   #
NorthPacific
 
Peterff wrote:
Interesting, I guess it is all subjective. I think the Nikon 8008s looked really clunky, neither one thing nor another, but I loved the look and feel of the T90, and still do. It feels so good in the hand, and picking one up - just fired the shutter a few times - I can also understand why it got call 'The Tank'. It is a solid beast. It's also funny how so many modern DSLRs from many vendors look very similar to the T90. At least to me, the T90 looks like a thoroughbred race horse, and the Nikon 8008s looks like a camel. I'm sure the Nikon 8008s was a great camera, but perception is such an individual thing!
Interesting, I guess it is all subjective. I thin... (show quote)


have to be careful about the T90 re LCD bleed through..very important to make sure you don't get one with that ....

Nikon 80008s is a great camera ..very sophisticated focusing and metering system....with 1/8000th max shutter speed which is sort of rare.....you can get primo condition ones very cheaply...nice handling camera.....3fps advance speed....not bad.

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Sep 21, 2016 19:24:21   #
GoofyNewfie Loc: Kansas City
 
Shots wrote:
I totally disagree with you...re-read very carefully what you just said and posted!

It would be easier to know with whom you disagreed if you used the "Quote Reply" option as I have done.

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Sep 21, 2016 19:45:38   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
NorthPacific wrote:
have to be careful about the T90 re LCD bleed through..very important to make sure you don't get one with that ....


Good point. Both of my T90s are OK, but the T90 does have its problems for sure, although for a 1986 electronic camera, not too bad....

Never seen the Nikon 8008s in the flesh, but we still have my wife's FM2 in great condition..., nice camera.

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