Fact is, only Obama could renounce his US citizenship
What I was leading. Did not want to shock him into convolutions.
The rnc seems think. Their people are unaware. But it seems to be proving correct.
mwalsh wrote:
All objective fact checkers have debunked Clinton or the campaign having anything to do with it. A few right wingnut propaganda sites still publish it.
Further, even if she had a small role in the origin (which she does not seem to have), Donald still became one of the champs of the birthers, continuing even as recently as this year to make allusions to BO's foreign birth....he went batshit crazy with it.
From Snopes
That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous e-mail questioning Obama’s citizenship.
“Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site Snopes.com in April 2008.
That Hillary Clinton supporters circulated such an e-mail isn't in question, but the claim that that's the moment the birther theory "first emerged" simply isn't true. The likeliest point of origin we've been able to find was a post on conservative message board FreeRepublic.com dated 1 March 2008 (which, according to a report in The Telegraph, was at least a month before Clinton supporters got on the e-mail bandwagon):
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dirtpusher wrote:
Snopes for real
I have a hunch that someone doesn't understand the difference between the Hillary Clinton Campaign®, and a Clinton supporter. I have another hunch that certain people will purposely conflate the two.
boberic wrote:
I repeat google- Clinton Birther when you do you will see stories of 2008 clinton staffers mentioning Birther stuff.
Do you believe everything you read on the internet. I know it is a jagged little pill for you to swallow regarding that jagoff Trump (Mark Cuban's words not mine) that he has demonstrated characteristics of a person who is suffering from emotional and psychological issues and amphetamine addiction. I think that both candidates should submit to blood testing immediately before the debates and the results broadcast before they take the stage.
Keenan
Loc: Central Coast California
RixPix wrote:
Do you believe everything you read on the internet. I know it is a jagged little pill for you to swallow regarding that jagoff Trump (Mark Cuban's words not mine) that he has demonstrated characteristics of a person who is suffering from emotional and psychological issues and amphetamine addiction. I think that both candidates should submit to blood testing immediately before the debates and the results broadcast before they take the stage.
I second that. I also think that all candidates should be screened for sociopathy and psychopathy, which should be an immediate disqualifier. Of course Trump would NEVER submit himself to such screening because he obviously is a sociopath/psychopath.
hondo812 wrote:
From Snopes
That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous e-mail questioning Obama’s citizenship.
“Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site Snopes.com in April 2008.
That Hillary Clinton supporters circulated such an e-mail isn't in question, but the claim that that's the moment the birther theory "first emerged" simply isn't true. The likeliest point of origin we've been able to find was a post on conservative message board FreeRepublic.com dated 1 March 2008 (which, according to a report in The Telegraph, was at least a month before Clinton supporters got on the e-mail bandwagon):
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Thanks for backing me up !
dirtpusher wrote:
They would rather have something they can distract with, than persue something that maybe solid. Distraction is a valuable tool in politics..
Dirt, I agree with your statement. Only difference is who we think it is referring to.
Mostly repukes. Lawsuit, investigations you name it. Worthless.
mwalsh wrote:
Hmmm, however, no parent can renounce a minor's citizenship. That is US law.
The whole Obama gave up US citizenship while in Indonesia is yet another far rightwing myth. There is some inconclusive evidence that the step father may have adopted him, there is some somewhat conclusive evidence his step father claimed on paper that Obama was an Indonesian citizen. Does not make it so though.
Fact is, only Obama could renounce his US citizenship, after reaching the age of majority. Indonesian laws are not germane in any way.
The right likes to claim Obama was schooled on Islam while in madrasses in Indonesia.
Actually he attended Catholic school his first two years there, and a prestigious public school his second two years there. He was only there from age 6 to 10. Which throws a wrinkle on the adoption claim, since adoption is only legal under Indonesian law up to age 5...
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I don't care where he went to school. That wasn't the point that I was making. The only point that I was making is that the right used the wrong argument in the past. Your argument may well be correct, but they would have made a lot more headway with that argument than the one that they chose. That's all that I was saying.
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