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May 2, 2016 16:09:52   #
lindystearns Loc: Appleton Me, Near Coast
 
This photo is typical with this camera. It is a Nikon P 100. I must be doing something wrong. Please help! Each time I use the zoom on this camera I get photos like this.


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May 2, 2016 16:36:21   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
lindystearns wrote:
This photo is typical with this camera. It is a Nikon P 100. I must be doing something wrong. Please help! Each time I use the zoom on this camera I get photos like this.


1/60 of the second exposure time with a 400mm+ focal length is the issue. A good rule of thumb is 1/focal length is the longest exposure time. It's only a rule of thumb, but useful.
--Bob

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May 2, 2016 17:15:48   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
rmalarz wrote:
1/60 of the second exposure time with a 400mm+ focal length is the issue. A good rule of thumb is 1/focal length is the longest exposure time. It's only a rule of thumb, but useful.
--Bob


Absolutely!

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May 2, 2016 17:38:52   #
Apaflo Loc: Anchorage, Alaska
 
rmalarz wrote:
1/60 of the second exposure time with a 400mm+ focal length is the issue. A good rule of thumb is 1/focal length is the longest exposure time. It's only a rule of thumb, but useful.
--Bob

The 1/focal_length approximation is correct for a 35mm size frame, but the Nikon P100 has a 5.7x crop factor that has to be accounted for, so at a focal length of 430mm the rough guide for a shutter speed that can be hand held is 1 / 430 * 5.7, or roughly 1/2450 of a second. That is for an average person and with VR off.

With VR enabled, if it is given half a second or so to stabilize that might mean something between 1/300 and 1/600 will work, but that isn't a good bet either, and note that at higher shutter speeds VR is not effective. Shooting at 1/1000 with VR on is probably not valid.

The point that 1/60 of a second is too slow is absolutely correct!

The solution for that kind of zoom range is obviously either a monopod as a halfway measure that will often work or using a decent tripod to assure good results.

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May 3, 2016 06:50:44   #
tmorgen Loc: Palm Bay, FL
 
Thanks to all who posted responses to "old camera's" problem. I leave mine on automatic so often anymore that this may or may not be an issue. Anyway, thanks. I have another question to ask and I have watched to see if someone else would ask it. Haven't seen that yet. My question is my eyes. I do wear glasses. All of my cameras have a visual correction on them. Should I be shooting with or without my glasses. The prescription is very mild for my distance needs. For reading, most prescribers like to push me up every time I come in. For reading I was told I need to use 3.50 and up. I buy them across the counter and for my needs, I use 1.75. If I had to use 3.5, I would have to hold the book about 10" from my face and no farther. When I tell them this, they seem almost angry with me for disagreeing with them. Last time I had my eyes checked, the 3.50 ended up in my desk drawer where it can't hurt me. Right now I am using an older 1.5 reader.
SO what should I do, glasses or not?
Regards, Ted in Palm Bay

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May 3, 2016 07:15:31   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
A tripod would help compensate for the low shutter speed.

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May 3, 2016 07:21:31   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
tmorgen wrote:
Thanks to all who posted responses to "old camera's" problem. I leave mine on automatic so often anymore that this may or may not be an issue. Anyway, thanks. I have another question to ask and I have watched to see if someone else would ask it. Haven't seen that yet. My question is my eyes. I do wear glasses. All of my cameras have a visual correction on them. Should I be shooting with or without my glasses. The prescription is very mild for my distance needs. For reading, most prescribers like to push me up every time I come in. For reading I was told I need to use 3.50 and up. I buy them across the counter and for my needs, I use 1.75. If I had to use 3.5, I would have to hold the book about 10" from my face and no farther. When I tell them this, they seem almost angry with me for disagreeing with them. Last time I had my eyes checked, the 3.50 ended up in my desk drawer where it can't hurt me. Right now I am using an older 1.5 reader.
SO what should I do, glasses or not?
Regards, Ted in Palm Bay
Thanks to all who posted responses to "old ca... (show quote)


I don't have a strong distance correction so I wear my glasses when focusing. As far as reading glasses go - the bottom line is what strength are you comfortable using? And since we usually use computer screens much further away from our eyes, using 1/2 the strength of reading glasses for computer work is usually comfortable.

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May 3, 2016 07:31:22   #
tmorgen Loc: Palm Bay, FL
 
My last few working years were as an HVAC Technician and it was difficult to learn from someone else using my doctor
advise because tech manuals are generally in much smaller print than other texts. When I tried to explain that to the doctor, he would explain that he used the numbers he found on the machine that checked my eyes. I knew that and that was in itself, the problem.
Regards and thankx
ted

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May 3, 2016 07:48:33   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
tmorgen wrote:
My last few working years were as an HVAC Technician and it was difficult to learn from someone else using my doctor
advise because tech manuals are generally in much smaller print than other texts. When I tried to explain that to the doctor, he would explain that he used the numbers he found on the machine that checked my eyes. I knew that and that was in itself, the problem.
Regards and thankx
ted


First of all, that is an instrument, not a machine. Second, he sounds more like an optician rather than an ophthalmologist. Having gone to both, my choice is the latter.

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May 3, 2016 07:49:13   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
tmorgen wrote:
Thanks to all who posted responses to "old camera's" problem. I leave mine on automatic so often anymore that this may or may not be an issue. Anyway, thanks. I have another question to ask and I have watched to see if someone else would ask it. Haven't seen that yet. My question is my eyes. I do wear glasses. All of my cameras have a visual correction on them. Should I be shooting with or without my glasses. The prescription is very mild for my distance needs. For reading, most prescribers like to push me up every time I come in. For reading I was told I need to use 3.50 and up. I buy them across the counter and for my needs, I use 1.75. If I had to use 3.5, I would have to hold the book about 10" from my face and no farther. When I tell them this, they seem almost angry with me for disagreeing with them. Last time I had my eyes checked, the 3.50 ended up in my desk drawer where it can't hurt me. Right now I am using an older 1.5 reader.
SO what should I do, glasses or not?
Regards, Ted in Palm Bay
Thanks to all who posted responses to "old ca... (show quote)


Ditto regarding shutter speed. I shoot with glasses on. not a problem. But shoot which ever get s the best results, for you. Do you use live view? BTW nobody can hand hold long focal length in live view without camera shake.

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May 3, 2016 07:50:18   #
abc1234 Loc: Elk Grove Village, Illinois
 
Another possible might be that the subject may be too close. An alternative to the tripod (the better solution) would be to increase the ISO.

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May 3, 2016 07:53:08   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
Digital zoom vs optical zoom?

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May 3, 2016 07:53:51   #
tmorgen Loc: Palm Bay, FL
 
Well put, Steve. Thanks.
Ted

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May 3, 2016 07:55:07   #
tmorgen Loc: Palm Bay, FL
 
I have a Nikon with a digital zoom and a Canon with an optical zoom. IF there is a suggested difference in the procedure, I'd like to know what it is.
Thanks,
Ted

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May 3, 2016 08:17:33   #
Cdouthitt Loc: Traverse City, MI
 
tmorgen wrote:
I have a Nikon with a digital zoom and a Canon with an optical zoom. IF there is a suggested difference in the procedure, I'd like to know what it is.
Thanks,
Ted


Optical is better...digital is a interpolation of optical.

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