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Apr 11, 2016 09:47:28   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Psergel wrote:
Forces you to manually save your RAW files??? I don't think you CAN save a RAW file.
you import it....work on it....and export it when you want to "share" or print the image.


You are, of course, correct. It sounds like a perfect example of someone who didn't take the time to understand how to use Lightroom properly. Most of the dozens of people who have responded so far have said the same thing, that it works great but you have to put some skin in the game.

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Apr 11, 2016 09:47:33   #
jteee Loc: Montana
 
Have used LR since about v3, and the only issues were caused by operator error. I have experienced a few unforced crashes since the v6 update, but still nothing that would remotely suggest I go elsewhere. Love the program and the seamless interface with PS.

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Apr 11, 2016 09:50:25   #
wotsmith Loc: Nashville TN
 
good; 260,000 photos

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Apr 11, 2016 09:51:15   #
ptcanon3ti Loc: NJ
 
good.

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Apr 11, 2016 10:01:17   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Davethehiker wrote:
I know I'm confused! Let me explain my problem. I like DxO very much and have had a lot of success using it. DxO requires that I use a RAW file. What I have been doing is manually storing the RAW file on the same HD that Lightroom uses. I then process the RAW file in DxO using the lens specific "modules" that corrects for optic errors and does a great job removing noise. I then export the image as a Tiff from DxO into PScc where I manipulate and polish it further using PS plug-ins like Nik filters and many other great PS tools. After I get it the way like it I export a Tiff version that I store in Lightroom and while I'm at it, I store a temporary JPG version that I often share with UHH. If I go into Lightroom first I can no longer find the RAW image?! I suspect I'm doing something wrong because this seems stupid, even to me!
I know I'm confused! Let me explain my problem. I ... (show quote)


You have an odd workflow. After working the file in DXO and PScc what do you plan to accomplish in Lightroom? Lightroom is usually the first step in post, not the last.

You don't store any thing in Lightroom, you import, and the import only stores information about your image, not the image itself. If you imported your raw files into Lightroom and didn't rename them, delete them, or move them, or the folders they are in, they would be there for to use.

Any changes you made to your raw files in another program would not be visible in Lightroom, unless you import a file with those changes in a format like TIFF which you say you're doing, but then you refer again to using raw in Lightroom, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Which books on Lightroom have you read or which videos have you seen in order to understand how it works and how to use it?

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Apr 11, 2016 10:02:33   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
bsprague wrote:
In a couple recent topics, it has been suggested there are too many "issues" with Lightroom's current versions. Apparently, there are about 60,000 signed up as UHH members and millions of Lightroom users. Some have said they won't use it because it is too flaky.

I thought it would be fun and interesting to see how many find it reliable and how find it a failure. The point here is not whether or not you like the perpetual licence plan or the CC rental plan, but only if Lightroom "works reliably".

Would you please post a "Good" if it is reliable and a "Bad" if it is not reliable.

My post is "Good". It has been flawless.
In a couple recent topics, it has been suggested t... (show quote)


Good

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Apr 11, 2016 10:03:58   #
wtw2143 Loc: West Hempstead, NY
 
I use Lightroom 5, for the past 2 years and works great for me, no issues at all.

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Apr 11, 2016 10:05:15   #
wtw2143 Loc: West Hempstead, NY
 
:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Apr 11, 2016 10:06:28   #
wtw2143 Loc: West Hempstead, NY
 
mwsilvers wrote:
You have an odd workflow. First, you don't store any thing in Lightroom, you import, and the import only stores information about your image, not the image itself. If you imported your raw files into Lightroom and didn't rename them, delete them, or move them, or the folders they are in, they would be there for to use. Second, any changes you made to your raw files in another program would not be visible in Lightroom, unless you import a file with those changes in a format like TIFF. You would not see those changes in the raw files themselves. Which books on Lightroom have you read or which videos have you seen in order to understand how it works and how to use it?
You have an odd workflow. First, you don't store a... (show quote)


:thumbup: :thumbup:

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Apr 11, 2016 10:14:31   #
thegrover Loc: Yorba Linda, CA
 
Good flawless

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Apr 11, 2016 10:16:10   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
Davethehiker wrote:
I know I'm confused! Let me explain my problem. I like DxO very much and have had a lot of success using it. DxO requires that I use a RAW file. What I have been doing is manually storing the RAW file on the same HD that Lightroom uses. I then process the RAW file in DxO using the lens specific "modules" that corrects for optic errors and does a great job removing noise. I then export the image as a Tiff from DxO into PScc where I manipulate and polish it further using PS plug-ins like Nik filters and many other great PS tools. After I get it the way like it I export a Tiff version that I store in Lightroom and while I'm at it, I store a temporary JPG version that I often share with UHH. If I go into Lightroom first I can no longer find the RAW image?! I suspect I'm doing something wrong because this seems stupid, even to me!
I know I'm confused! Let me explain my problem. I ... (show quote)


Dave, suggest you try this:
1) Take a "test" raw file and store it in a directory where you want it to stay.
2) Import that RAW file into Lightroom's catalog.
3) Make your basic edits in LR (once you're accustomed to LR, you're often going to be finished then).
4) Now use Lightroom as your "base camp" for visiting any other plug-ins, including NIK, DXO, and PS. The command is (right click on photo),Edit In . . . . When you want to process in one of those plugins, LR will ask you if you want to Edit a copy with LR Adjustments. Choose that.
5) If you want to edit further in another plugin, this time choose Edit Original instead, so you don't keep creating additional TIF's (or JPG's or other file formats).
6) When you're finished, the edited photo will be in your LR catalog.

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Apr 11, 2016 10:17:06   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
sixty6comeback wrote:
I am new to LR and find the cataloging to be difficult to master but I understand that it's the user, not the program.

You need to take sufficient time reading and watching videos if you really want to understand how to use it and get the best from it. It's not that hard to learn, but it's not intuitive.

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Apr 11, 2016 10:18:43   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
mwsilvers wrote:
You have an odd workflow. After working the file in DXO and PScc what do you plan to accomplish in Lightroom? Lightroom is usually the first step in post, not the last.

You don't store any thing in Lightroom, you import, and the import only stores information about your image, not the image itself. If you imported your raw files into Lightroom and didn't rename them, delete them, or move them, or the folders they are in, they would be there for to use.

Any changes you made to your raw files in another program would not be visible in Lightroom, unless you import a file with those changes in a format like TIFF which you say you're doing, but then you refer again to using raw in Lightroom, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Which books on Lightroom have you read or which videos have you seen in order to understand how it works and how to use it?
You have an odd workflow. After working the file i... (show quote)


I have been saving/importing them as TIFF.

Please recommend a comprehensive book. I have been trying to learn from on-line tutorials but I know I'm missing something.

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Apr 11, 2016 10:20:56   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Davethehiker wrote:
No I did not "IMPORT" it. I just crated a subfolder called RAW and manually saved it there. I don't think LR and DxO play nice with each other. At least they were not when I started this stupid way of storing my RAW files.

To tell the truth my way is so clumsy, that I have stopped using LR.

I hope someone can tell me a better way to make LR and DxO "play" together.

You need to import your raw files into Lightroom or Lightroom doesn't know they exist.

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Apr 11, 2016 10:23:50   #
Davethehiker Loc: South West Pennsylvania
 
DWU2 wrote:
Dave, suggest you try this:
1) Take a "test" raw file and store it in a directory where you want it to stay.
2) Import that RAW file into Lightroom's catalog.
3) Make your basic edits in LR (once you're accustomed to LR, you're often going to be finished then).
4) Now use Lightroom as your "base camp" for visiting any other plug-ins, including NIK, DXO, and PS. The command is (right click on photo),Edit In . . . . When you want to process in one of those plugins, LR will ask you if you want to Edit a copy with LR Adjustments. Choose that.
5) If you want to edit further in another plug, this time choose Edit Original instead, so you don't keep creating additional TIF (or JPG or other file formats).
6) When you're finished, the edited photo will be in your LR catalog.
Dave, suggest you try this: br 1) Take a "tes... (show quote)


Thank you DWU2, I'm going to print out the steps you just listed. I'll take a new photo today (if the rain ever stops..) and follow your recommendations.

I just hope LR provides the RAW image to DxO, because DxO is crippled if it does not get the RAW image. This is the crux of my problem!

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