Kngfish48 wrote:
It would be a travesty to remove one of our founding fathers just to satisfy some silly political correctness....
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Bobbee wrote:
Was away all day, I just thought of this and you beat me to it............
I thought they were thinking about a women????
Kngfish48 wrote:
It would be a travesty to remove one of our founding fathers just to satisfy some silly political correctness....
It's also a travesty trying to remove everything associated with the Confederated States of America. Flags, statues, street names, etc. But that's a whole different story.
pounder35 wrote:
It's also a travesty trying to remove everything associated with the Confederated States of America. Flags, statues, street names, etc. But that's a whole different story.
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Kngfish48 wrote:
It would be a travesty to remove one of our founding fathers just to satisfy some silly political correctness....
I whole heartedly agree with you. I also think that if the founding fathers could see what this country has become they would want their pictures removed and not be a part of the current travesty. I doubt they would want to be associated with a country that puts pix of Billary or the Kardashian bimbos on its currency cuz that is the way it is heading.
fantom wrote:
I whole heartedly agree with you. I also think that if the founding fathers could see what this country has become they would want their pictures removed and not be a part of the current travesty. I doubt they would want to be associated with a country that puts pix of Billary or the Kardashian bimbos on its currency cuz that is the way it is heading.
You're right. We need to honor the Founding Fathers by removing their pictures and putting cartoon characters on the paper currency. That might involve a licensing fee to Disney. When / if the country gets back to a normal or semi-normal state we can go back to old designs. Unfortunately that might never happen.
Since this new 10 dollar bill is commemorating women's suffrage in America, and Alice Paul dedicated her life to the woman's right to vote in America, I say hers should be the face on the new bill. To answer another's question about why we even need a new design, according to the article, they were going to redesign the note anyway to avoid further counterfeiting.
Just Dawn wrote:
according to the article, they were going to redesign the note anyway to avoid further counterfeiting.
Which article are you referring to? The one in the OP didn't say counterfeiting, it said
"In another first for American greenbacks, the new $10 bill will include a "tactile feature" to allow blind people to distinguish it from other denominations.".
Trust me -- the anti-counterfeiting features are in place. We've just finished introducing what we call "big heads" denominations. ($5 - $100). This is where the portraits are not encased in the old style picture frame. The portraits are actually noticeably larger than before and their shoulders extend out and down. This project of rolling over to the new currency was begun in 2003 with the release of the new $20, followed shortly after with the new $50. Many new overt counterfeit features -- what we call "man on the street" features -- have been implemented with the Big Heads. The last of Big Head denominations to be released to the public, happened about 2 years ago with the new $100 note. Being our highest denomination -- and the biggest target of counterfeiters -- it has many overt features. I encourage everyone to get familiar with their currency. These overt anti-counterfeiting measures on the new $100 note are nothing short of incredible. But they don't do a thing if the public is not educated enough to examine their bills.
Since a POLITICAL decision was made to put a woman on the $10 note, they are going to use this opportunity to enhance features for the near-blind and the blind. We already started down that path with the Big Heads -- if you look at the back side of the notes you will see in lower right hand corner a very large "counter" -- that is the name for the denomination numeral. The $100 note has the huge 100 counter on the whole right side. This was to aid the near blind in being able to decipher what is in the wallets and purses.
We do not put all the same anti-counterfeiting features on all the denominations. The reason is those features are expensive and tremendously drive up the cost for the annual currency order to the Federal Reserve. So, features are deployed based on the amount of counterfeiting seen for each denomination. The $100 note is the most counterfeited, followed by the $50 note. Then it is the $20 note and on down for $10s and $5s. The $1 note is hardly ever counterfeited these days because it is not worth the counterfeiters time, so it was not involved in the new currency designs.
Actually the article said:
"The $20 was at the center of a recent campaign to put a woman on U.S. currency but Treasury had already pegged the $10 as the next to be updated.
'Bills are flagged for updates mainly for security reasons', Lew said. It was a 'happy coincidence' that a push to put a woman on American money happened as the $10 note came under consideration.
In another first for a American greenbacks, the new $10 bill will include a tactile feature to allow blind people to distinguish it from other denominations."
So I guess we're both right :)
Just Dawn wrote:
Actually the article said:
"The $20 was at the center of a recent campaign to put a woman on U.S. currency but Treasury had already pegged the $10 as the next to be updated.
'Bills are flagged for updates mainly for security reasons', Lew said. It was a 'happy coincidence' that a push to put a woman on American money happened as the $10 note came under consideration.
In another first for a American greenbacks, the new $10 bill will include a tactile feature to allow blind people to distinguish it from other denominations."
So I guess we're both right :)
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Yes you are correct -- in further review, that certainly was alluded to. My only point is that when I read stuff like:
"but Treasury had already pegged the $10 as the next to be updated. 'Bills are flagged for updates mainly for security reasons', Lew said. It was a 'happy coincidence' that a push to put a woman on American money happened as the $10 note came under consideration, I always have to reconcile that with the fact I am reading an article published by a reporter. They often get the facts messed up.
I can tell you that we went 64 years without any changes at all to the currency until 1996 when we embarked on a complete overhaul of the larger denominations ($5-$100). This new series of notes was necessary due to the need for inclusion of major anti-counterfeiting devices -- both overt and covert. We were being targeted by several overseas counterfeiters who were very good in their craft.
As I mentioned in my last post, it was only a few years later in 2003 that -- once again due to expertise from overseas counterfeiters -- we embarked on another new series for the higher denominations. From the Federal Reserve, I was in charge of the
covert anti-counterfeiting features for the $20 note and the $50 note, and I had a lot of input on the $100 note before I retired. The anti-counterfeiting features of the current $10 note are totally adequate, just fine, especially when you consider there is no significant counterfeiting threat against that denomination -- almost zilch.
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-is-reportedly-going-to-change-the-face-of-the-10-bill-2015-6Therefore, I can only conclude, but can't prove (since I am no longer involved), that saying the $10 note needs new anti-counterfeiting features is nothing more than a straw man designed to over-shadow the incessant actions of the Obama administration to push their politically-correct agenda. Having said that, I fully support putting a woman on our paper currency, as long as the woman chosen is truly the most deserving, and not chosen just to please a certain demographic.
I too am totally confused why it is the $10 note chosen instead of the $20, when clearly Andrew Jackson is no longer considered suitable for being on the currency?
DerBiermeister wrote:
Yes you are correct -- in further review, that certainly was alluded to. My only point is that when I read stuff like:
"but Treasury had already pegged the $10 as the next to be updated. 'Bills are flagged for updates mainly for security reasons', Lew said. It was a 'happy coincidence' that a push to put a woman on American money happened as the $10 note came under consideration, I always have to reconcile that with the fact I am reading an article published by a reporter. They often get the facts messed up.
I can tell you that we went 64 years without any changes at all to the currency until 1996 when we embarked on a complete overhaul of the larger denominations ($5-$100). This new series of notes was necessary due to the need for inclusion of major anti-counterfeiting devices -- both overt and covert. We were being targeted by several overseas counterfeiters who were very good in their craft.
As I mentioned in my last post, it was only a few years later in 2003 that -- once again due to expertise from overseas counterfeiters -- we embarked on another new series for the higher denominations. From the Federal Reserve, I was in charge of the
covert anti-counterfeiting features for the $20 note and the $50 note, and I had a lot of input on the $100 note before I retired. The anti-counterfeiting features of the current $10 note are totally adequate, just fine, especially when you consider there is no significant counterfeiting threat against that denomination -- almost zilch.
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-us-is-reportedly-going-to-change-the-face-of-the-10-bill-2015-6Therefore, I can only conclude, but can't prove (since I am no longer involved), that saying the $10 note needs new anti-counterfeiting features is nothing more than a straw man designed to over-shadow the incessant actions of the Obama administration to push their politically-correct agenda. Having said that, I fully support putting a woman on our paper currency, as long as the woman chosen is truly the most deserving, and not chosen just to please a certain demographic.
I too am totally confused why it is the $10 note chosen instead of the $20, when clearly Andrew Jackson is no longer considered suitable for being on the currency?
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I totally agree. I truly hope the woman they choose to go on the new bill is deserving. Meaning she actually did something for women's suffrage in the U.S. Not just choose someone who's going to please sensitive p.c. b.s.
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