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Mar 12, 2016 17:56:11   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
lowkick wrote:
I read a lot of posts about people wanting easy to carry point and shoot cameras for every day use. As I thought about this, it dawned on me that I still wouldn't carry a (strictly) point and shoot most of the time. I happen to love using an adjustable camera. It doesn't have to be a DSLR, but I need to be able to control and adjust settings. That, to me, is half the fun. I have realized that, while I love photographic images and, like most of you, would hate to lose a potentially great image because I didn't have a camera with me, I get great enjoyment out of "using" the equipment, and I get no enjoyment out of using a point and shoot camera. Making the photo is at least as enjoyable to me as having the end result. Therefore, I would rarely pick up a point and shoot to take with me because there is no fun factor. Every time I grab my DSLR or bridge camera I feel the potential for enjoyment surge through my veins. Of course, I always have my cell phone camera with me for those occasions when I didn't bring a "real" camera. Do any of you feel the same way?
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Ira, here's my point and shoot. When I either can't, or don't want to carry a lot of equipment. It works just fine.
--Bob


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Mar 12, 2016 18:00:33   #
BebuLamar
 
John_F wrote:
Ah, this is an angle that I had not thought of before. How much fun is any single use tool? A screw driver only does screws - how boring. In addition, an adjustable camera lets you interact with the scene, err image, and that is a part of the fun, too.


I think you got it wrong. A screw drive is one tool it's only drive the screw. A high end dedicated camera is only one tool although it has many adjustments it's only take pictures. The multi tool is like the cell phone it's about just everything.

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Mar 12, 2016 18:28:08   #
AndyT Loc: Hampstead, New Hampshire
 
I consider a point and shoot, generally something smaller than a DSLR, and a camera that has Auto available and is used most of the time in Auto by someone who does not yet know how to use Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority or Manual, or maybe doesnt want to. My old Nikon D90 was never set to auto, or my D7100, so my pocket stretching Canon G7X doesnt go on auto either. It has a ton of features built in that let me use it's 1.8-2.8 lens to the fullest. So although it is small, I never use it in Auto and consider it an advanced pocketable camera and not a point and shoot.

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Mar 12, 2016 18:39:00   #
davyboy Loc: Anoka Mn.
 
Most of the new point shoots have most of the manual adjustments!!

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Mar 12, 2016 18:42:11   #
Magicman
 
The Sony rx100 MK3 or the 4 is an amazing choice. Point and shootplus every adjustment you could ever want Read any review and many are trying hard to copy but have only come close. One reason is the zeiss lens. As far as giving up the zoom. Sony has a clear image zoom which is far superior to digital zoom and takes you from 3.7 to 7x which should cover you. It also has digital which takes you to 11x but I turn it off and never use it. You can also turn off clear image zoom. I put it in my jean pocket. I use the Alex White has a great book on the camera so you can learn how to maximize the abundant features. I would suggest 3 accessories. Mega gear uv lens protector. Invisable. Richard franiec grip. Sony semi hard screen protector. You will be amazed at the quality of the images.

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Mar 12, 2016 19:02:57   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
When most people hear the words "point & shoot", they think of a cheap camera with no manual settings, like using your smart phone. Couldn't be farther from the truth, I don't know what point & shoot cameras your looking at but most advanced point & shoot cameras have all the settings of entry level DSLR's, with photo quality almost as good. For instance, I have a 5 year old Nikon P7100 with buttons and dials on top of the camera for all important settings, I don't have to go into the menu to set them, I use this 5 year old camera almost as much as my DSLR. Advanced point & shoot cameras run about $500.00 and up, they give a different meaning to the words point & shoot.

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Mar 12, 2016 19:04:25   #
Harvey Loc: Pioneer, CA
 
This subject takes me back thru time to my Kodak Box camera as a totally "Fixed" camera that one really had to practice the basic rules of photography to get decent photos that were not "Snap Shots" on to my Argus C3 that was and still is a super adjustable camera - move on to my Konica Film SLR that allowed a lot of flexibility in adjustment - them my first Digital P&S - yep one setting and not Zoom just like the Kodak Box camera - next move was to the Panasonic Lumix FZ3 Bridge that really jump started my digital photography as I acquired PS 5.5 at the same time -wow- was I a happy Photo nut - now several bridge camera up dates later - now a Canon SX30 - but also a good kit of Canon Rebel XT, XTi & T3i with a couple kit lens 18-55 & 100-300 to give me lots of leeway with my ventures in photography.

My short version of this is if I was going to buy a basic camera that i could do some adjustment with I would buy a basic Brand name Bridge camera - IMHO
Harvey

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Mar 12, 2016 21:25:55   #
mas24 Loc: Southern CA
 


A Point and Shoot camera can be a Bridge Style camera such as the Nikon Coolpix L840. It has only a fixed lens with LCD only. You also have point and shoot compact cameras you can put in your back pocket. Some better point and shoot have EVF and can shoot JPEG and Raw.

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Mar 12, 2016 21:54:47   #
ToTellIt Loc: Sacramento, Ca
 
To me, it's not the fiddling; it's the image.
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Mar 12, 2016 22:59:37   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
mas24 wrote:
A Point and Shoot camera can be a Bridge Style camera such as the Nikon Coolpix L840. It has only a fixed lens with LCD only. You also have point and shoot compact cameras you can put in your back pocket. Some better point and shoot have EVF and can shoot JPEG and Raw.
Technically, you can say any camera(bridge, mirrorless, dslr ect.) are point & shoot cameras. A bridge camera is usually a mega zoom with a fixed lens, bigger than a compact, smaller than a DSLR. The word bridge is used to put a camera into a certain category. The same way cars are loosely termed...compact, intermediate, large ect.

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Mar 15, 2016 00:03:24   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
cjkorb wrote:
When most people hear the words "point & shoot", they think of a cheap camera with no manual settings, like using your smart phone. Couldn't be farther from the truth, I don't know what point & shoot cameras your looking at but most advanced point & shoot cameras have all the settings of entry level DSLR's, with photo quality almost as good. For instance, I have a 5 year old Nikon P7100 with buttons and dials on top of the camera for all important settings, I don't have to go into the menu to set them, I use this 5 year old camera almost as much as my DSLR. Advanced point & shoot cameras run about $500.00 and up, they give a different meaning to the words point & shoot.
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What you're talking about are not really "point & shoot" cameras, but either advanced compact cameras (such as the P7100) or bridge cameras, depending on body design. "Point & shoot" is in contrast to "advanced".

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Mar 15, 2016 09:03:04   #
Ched49 Loc: Pittsburgh, Pa.
 
rook2c4 wrote:
What you're talking about are not really "point & shoot" cameras, but either advanced compact cameras (such as the P7100) or bridge cameras, depending on body design. "Point & shoot" is in contrast to "advanced".
It seems everybody has their own idea about how cameras should be classified.

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Mar 15, 2016 19:38:25   #
fsu1955 Loc: PA
 
:) it is like going back to old school days of the 35 mm film , but now you can shoot like we did with 35mm film, dont get me wrong I love my Nikon coolpix l820 but my Nikon D5200 gives me more of what you can do with photo work

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Mar 15, 2016 20:21:33   #
MrBob Loc: lookout Mtn. NE Alabama
 
John_F wrote:
Well, you could poke the slotted in corner first and sorta make-do.


I used to know a wannabe mechanic friend who only had 1 open ended wrench; he compensated with layers of short hacksaw blades for the smaller sizes....

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