Another Oil Crash Is Coming, and There May Be No Recovery (Page 4): these stories never discuss how the electricity gets to the car. The grid we have now is simply inadequate if...

canoneer

these stories never discuss how the electricity gets to the car. The grid we have now is simply inadequate if millions of people plug their cars in when they all get home from work at the end of the day. We'll go from not being able to afford electric cars to not being able to afford the electricity to charge them.

Wenonah Loc: Winona, MN

canoneer wrote:

these stories never discuss how the electricity gets to the car. The grid we have now is simply inadequate if millions of people plug their cars in when they all get home from work at the end of the day. We'll go from not being able to afford electric cars to not being able to afford the electricity to charge them.

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Violameister Loc: michigan

canoneer wrote:

these stories never discuss how the electricity gets to the car. The grid we have now is simply inadequate if millions of people plug their cars in when they all get home from work at the end of the day. We'll go from not being able to afford electric cars to not being able to afford the electricity to charge them.

Everybody who has an electric car that I know keeps telling me how cheap it is to run because the cost of the electricity is so reasonable. or, in some areas, free. Nobody has apparently figured out that that is possible only because there are so few of those things on the road. If they were to suddenly become the majority of vehicles we would be in trouble.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

Violameister wrote:

That is simply wrong. The National Geographic, a l... (show quote)

5 Countries Leading the Way Toward 100% Renewable Energy

http://ecowatch.com/2015/01/09/countries-leading-way-renewable-energy/

Violameister Loc: michigan

dirtpusher wrote:

5 Countries Leading the Way Toward 100% Renewable Energy

http://ecowatch.com/2015/01/09/countries-leading-way-renewable-energy/

Thanks for the interesting article. Assuming it is accurate, the big spenders were US and China, but no impressive figures on what percentage of total power was produced by "green" sources.

The countries with a high percentage of wind powered energy are small, densely populated and in windy places. Nothing really surprising (or encouraging) there. If a big country like Germany ever gets to producing 50% of its total power averaged over a year from solar sources as they hope to do in the next 15 years, I will consider that big news.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

Violameister wrote:

Thanks for the interesting article. Assuming it is... (show quote)

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Where in the world have we achieved 100% renewable power?

http://qz.com/576437/which-places-have-achieved-100-renewable-power/

SteveR Loc: Michigan

Like electricity grows on trees!!

Violameister Loc: michigan

dirtpusher wrote:

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Where in the world have we achieved 100% renewable power?

http://qz.com/576437/which-places-have-achieved-100-renewable-power/

Actually, this "achieved 100& renewable power" list is very interesting. None of the listed places has done it with 21st century technology. All used either hydro power or, in the case of Iceland, geothermal power. Using this article to support wind or solar power is a fraud.

Germany is listed as having achieved 70% renewable power on one day. It turns out that day was very sunny in mid summer, and a national holiday so that no industry was operating. Hardly a triumph.

dirtpusher Loc: tulsa oklahoma

Violameister wrote:

Actually, this "achieved 100& renewable power" list is very interesting. None of the listed places has done it with 21st century technology. All used either hydro power or, in the case of Iceland, geothermal power. Using this article to support wind or solar power is a fraud.

Germany is listed as having achieved 70% renewable power on one day. It turns out that day was very sunny in mid summer, and a national holiday so that no industry was operating. Hardly a triumph.

they know the 21st century technology works. it just under populated in these means.

BigWahoo Loc: Kentucky

SteveR wrote:

Like electricity grows on trees!!

It comes from the star we call our sun.

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

Violameister wrote:

Thanks for the interesting article. Assuming it is... (show quote)

Interesting article showing some favorable trends, but I agree with your closing remark.

Hardly surprising that countries with zero natural carbon reserves have given a more serious look at harnessing other methods.....more necessity than altruism.

Since the U.S. is the most homogenous country on earth, and since we have the third largest population, and since we have some of the largest world's reserves of carbon based energy, and since we are the only country to decrease its carbon footprint AND essentially meet the Kyoto treaty guidelines (voluntarily, I will add), I will hold off on investing in companies involved in this technology for now (w/ tesla being my one exception).

SteveR Loc: Michigan

BigWahoo wrote:

It comes from the star we call our sun.

The electricity for electric cars does not come from trees or from the sun, directly. Coal is still the biggest provider of the nations electricity at 34%, natural gas is next at 30%, wind provides 5% and solar provides 1%. So, when you tank up those electric cars, know where your electricity is really coming from.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/power-plants/