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Nov 6, 2015 14:19:20   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
Agree with most of the responses. have no idea how difficult or easy it is to damage computers, can only try to protect them. Just wanted to dispel the "myth" that Apple/Mac products can live untouched by these problems.
Great discussion and thanks to all who have posted on the more technical side. Very informative.

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Nov 6, 2015 15:09:52   #
smokey95
 
SteveR wrote:
My old Dell died, and my son recommended a Mac Pro, so that's what I went with. It has the Intel i7 with both a flash drive to boot up and a 256 gig ssd hard drive. I've also loaded Windows 10 onto it, which I prefer over OS. It's much quicker than the old Dell and I'm looking forward to getting all my old files and photos loaded onto it. I'd recommend it.

I have an old power mac c4 silver doors and had never had a Virus problem I do not have anti virus protection on it.

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Nov 6, 2015 15:30:38   #
Peterff Loc: O'er The Hills and Far Away, in Themyscira.
 
smokey95 wrote:
I have an old power mac c4 silver doors and had never had a Virus problem I do not have anti virus protection on it.


Tomorrow is another day!

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Nov 6, 2015 15:50:38   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Peterff wrote:
Tomorrow is another day!

Hey, let's not jump the gun here! :D

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Nov 6, 2015 16:17:56   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
My son is considering getting an iMac, but he would like to keep using Cyberlink PowerDirector for editing video. Would it be practical running that using Parallels?


I've never tried it, but it probably would work. Parallels has never disappointed anyone I know, except for Direct-X gaming guys (gamers never seem to be happy with any computer's performance!).

I've run Win7 with Office, FileMaker Pro Advanced, Photoshop, and a lot of other apps — with no issues whatsoever.

The KEY is having enough RAM and fast drive space for both operating systems. These days, I wouldn't use less than 8GB RAM, and 16GB would be better. A 7200RPM hard drive is the minimum I like. That may be an external or aftermarket internal. If it's external, try to use a Thunderbolt drive. USB3 is okay, but USB2 is too slow. SSDs are highly desirable. So is a fast RAID array.

Video editing uses a lot of resources, period, so I don't run anything in the background while editing video. I even turn off networking until I'm done.

One option is to install Windows on a Mac using Apple BootCamp. This gives your drive a "dual boot" functionality. When you start the computer, you hold down the Option key and wait for a drive menu to appear. Pick the startup drive you want — you can have several — and hit enter. The Mac starts up with the OS of your choice, and runs it natively.

If you do that, you may still use Parallels Desktop to run your BootCamp Partition! So should anything disappoint you in Parallels, you still have a 100% genuine HARDWARE PC option.

Yes, Macs come with iMovie, which is a nice little editor, and it is even compatible with iMovie on iOS devices. Apple also sells the heavyweight Final Cut Pro, and Adobe Premiere also runs on the Mac. Lots of creatives use the Mac to make movies.

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Nov 6, 2015 16:28:42   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
smokey95 wrote:
I have an old power mac c4 silver doors and had never had a Virus problem I do not have anti virus protection on it.


I still have a fully tricked out, accelerated PowerMac G4 AGP 400 from 1999. It runs OS X 10.4.11 and Mac OS 9.2.2 (ancient!). It has never had any virus protection on it, and has never had any malware, viruses, or other crap-ware invade it. It has always been on the Internet, but behind a router firewall.

It ran in a lab environment, 24/7, for six years before we retired it and I took it home. They were going to throw it away! It rendered images for memory books for two years, then rendered huge composites for a year, then printed 40x60 prints on an Epson 9600 for three years. It still runs, but we retired it last April. It's probably the most reliable computer I ever had.

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Nov 6, 2015 16:48:19   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
burkphoto wrote:
I've never tried it, but it probably would work. Parallels has never disappointed anyone I know, except for Direct-X gaming guys....

Thanks for the complete reply. I'll files this away.

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Nov 6, 2015 16:59:02   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
burkphoto wrote:
The KEY is having enough RAM and fast drive space for both operating systems. These days, I wouldn't use less than 8GB RAM, and 16GB would be better. A 7200RPM hard drive is the minimum I like. That may be an external or aftermarket internal. If it's external, try to use a Thunderbolt drive. USB3 is okay, but USB2 is too slow. SSDs are highly desirable. So is a fast RAID array.

Unless he pays a lot more for a Retina display, a Core i7 is not available for the 21.5. Would a Core i5 be sufficient for video processing? We've generally used Dells with Core i7 processors and 16BM of memory.

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Nov 6, 2015 17:36:40   #
Kuzano
 
sirlensalot wrote:
Macs not susceptible or not getting viruses and/or malware continues to be an urban and a suburban myth. While arguably less common, they have the same problems windows based computers have. My guess is it is based solely on numbers of users of windows vs OS. More users of windows so, they must be more susceptible to invasion and or hacking. If windows feels comfortable and is faster, why not use it? No different than a camera or a vehicle. Drive what you like and what fits the budget!


Good point and one should remember that Apple/MAC has never exceeded 10% of the PC marketplace, so anecdotal whining should be put in context.

1 Mac for every 9 PC's in existence.

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Nov 6, 2015 17:54:07   #
jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
johnst1001a wrote:
Yes, if you load Windows on your Mac you will get viruses. I did that a long time ago, had a few programs that only ran in Windows. So after a few months, I was in the MacStore having them get rid of the virus and deleting all things associated with Windows.

Unless there is a real need to run Windows on the Mac, I would highly recommend not doing it. Mac OS operates just fine with virtually all software that is downloaded or installed using the Mac version. The software will then run almost exactly the same as the Windows version anyway, with the exception of using a command or option key.

Anyway, good choice for a computer. I know the Mac Pro's are expensive, but you only buy a computer once every 5+ years, so might as well get it. Mine was bought in 2008, still running like the day I bought it and I am an 8 hour a day uses (work and casual).

As for the SSD, I would love to have that for my computer, but they are expensive as well as an external drive, so I will just wait.

It's kind of ironic that I can't wait until my Mac Pro fails so I can get the new one.
Yes, if you load Windows on your Mac you will get ... (show quote)




Of course you know that you have just cursed you Mac Pro and it will now live forever. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Nov 6, 2015 19:11:54   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Unless he pays a lot more for a Retina display, a Core i7 is not available for the 21.5. Would a Core i5 be sufficient for video processing? We've generally used Dells with Core i7 processors and 16BM of memory.


Yes. It just takes a little longer to render finished video.

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Nov 6, 2015 20:25:29   #
SteveLew Loc: Sugar Land, TX
 
I also just got a Mac. I just added my Lightroom and Photoshop CC to my new Mac. How did you transfer the photos from the PC to the Mac. The only intell that I can get is to use a memory stick and do it the old fashioned way. Any input?

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Nov 6, 2015 20:33:16   #
jethro779 Loc: Tucson, AZ
 
salewis wrote:
I also just got a Mac. I just added my Lightroom and Photoshop CC to my new Mac. How did you transfer the photos from the PC to the Mac. The only intell that I can get is to use a memory stick and do it the old fashioned way. Any input?


Try this, it is from apple on using the migration assistant.

http://support.apple.com/kb/PH21974?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US

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Nov 6, 2015 20:34:55   #
blackest Loc: Ireland
 
salewis wrote:
I also just got a Mac. I just added my Lightroom and Photoshop CC to my new Mac. How did you transfer the photos from the PC to the Mac. The only intell that I can get is to use a memory stick and do it the old fashioned way. Any input?


well there are a few methods you could share the drive on the lan.

one way which while not the fastest ever you can run an ftp server on the mac via the terminal and use something like filezilla to ftp the files to the mac.

it has 2 handy advantages to a regular copy 1) if a file fails to transfer it continues with the rest 2) it maintains a list of failed files and the path to the file on the failed uploads pane.

sometimes windows doesnt grant permission to copy some files because you don't have rights to the file usually. you can fix it in the security tab in the file properties.
The last shouldnt happen but it does from time to time.

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Nov 6, 2015 20:41:20   #
SteveLew Loc: Sugar Land, TX
 
Thanks for the assistance Jethro779 and blackest.

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