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Sep 24, 2015 20:20:13   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
Below are photos of two time bombs. Or two hoax time bombs. Or one of each. Since Twardlow is so prescient, perhaps he can explain which is real, which isn't, and how he knows the difference by looking at them.



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Sep 24, 2015 20:24:14   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
robertjerl wrote:
No, they didn't treat him like a bomber.
In Texas and many other places, a fake weapon or bomb is also illegal when used in such a way that others may think it is real and react accordingly.
He refused to say anything but "It's a clock." when asked what and why. Since the one teacher thought it was/could be a bomb, but the police realized it wasn't a bomb he was taken into custody for both having a fake bomb and non cooperation. Those taken into custody must be cuffed or restrained as per standard operating proceedures. At the station when the police started to uncuff him the father and sister demanded he be left cuffed so they could pose a picture. Was that for the family album, or for the media?
No, they didn't treat him like a bomber. br In Tex... (show quote)


You leave out that he wasn't allowed a lawyer as per US constitution.

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Sep 24, 2015 20:27:21   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
When it involves what are, and were intended to be, terroristic threats. As in the case of Ahmed the Bombmaker.

As to your bizarre notion that the authorities are supposed to assume an apparent bomb is actually inert, such an assumption would be reckless indeed, especially in light of the Muslims' long pattern of terrorist bombing. Under typical circumstances it might be necessary to use sniffer dogs, special explosive-detection devices, or other specialized techniques. And that's assuming that the jihadists haven't booby-trapped the device. That's why suspected bombs are often dealt with by use of robots, and/or blowing the device in place.

I was present nearby in downtown Los Angeles when a "suspicious object" was discovered in the subway. The LAPD used a robot to investigate and didn't even try to disarm what may have been either a hoax or real; the cops blew it in place.
When it involves what are, and were intended to be... (show quote)


It is beyond rational to discuss this with you. You are determined to be terrified and I wash my hands of further discussion (to the great relief of everyone involved).

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Sep 24, 2015 20:30:28   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
Twardlow wrote:
You leave out that he wasn't allowed a lawyer as per US constitution.


You are as ignorant of the law as you are of the facts of bombs and terroristic threats. A person being arrested or detained is not allowed a lawyer at that point.

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Sep 24, 2015 20:56:17   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
Los-Angeles-Shooter wrote:
You are as ignorant of the law as you are of the facts of bombs and terroristic threats. A person being arrested or detained is not allowed a lawyer at that point.


Well, buddy, let's agree one of us knows more than the other, and let it go at that, OK?



"The Miranda warning (also called the Miranda Rights) is a series of statements that law enforcement officials within the United States, must administer when a criminal suspect is arrested or at some point before they are interrogated. In theory, this applies to all law enforcement at any level (local, state or Federal), however not everyone is as good as everyone else at using it. Police are issued Miranda warning cards that they read, just to make sure they don't make a mistake. Also, the Miranda must be read in a language the arrested understands. In the US, most cops carry Spanish versions as well as English versions.

The specific phrasing of the warning varies from state to state, but the basic message is the same:

You (the arrestee) have the right to remain silent. (On some cards, this is in all-caps.)

If you give up the right to remain silent, anything you say can and will be used against you.

You have the right to speak to an attorney and to have an attorney present during questioning.

If you cannot afford an attorney, one will be appointed for you by the court.

You can exercise any of these rights at any time during questioning.

Do you understand these rights as I have explained them to you?

The police only need to read you the Miranda warning after they arrest you, but before they question you. If they question in the field then arrest you, but don't ask you any further questions, they don't need to "Mirandize" you.[1] Of course those initial questions are not legally admissible in court as evidence against you, no matter what you said. The answers can only be used to further the investigations or guide future questioning. Update: Of course, the Roberts Court ruled in 2010 that anything obtained before you receive your Miranda rights is now admissible in Court, leaving some asking why bother with the Miranda, then.

Miranda warnings used to state that if you could not afford an attorney, one would be appointed to you at no cost. However, we can't let the poor think they can get free legal counseling.[2] That would be unfair to rich people.
Should one be read their Miranda rights or not, the legally safest thing to assume (at least in the US) is that the police are not your friends and are intent on finding someone, anyone guilty. So keep your mouth shut and save what you want to say for the courtroom and a cooler head. The accused (at least in the US in most jurisdictions) has the right to allocute, though what a person intends to say should first be discussed with their attorney."

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Sep 24, 2015 23:05:44   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
thom w wrote:
I'm not sure why you posted to me, and I don't see how it relates to what I posted. As far as some liberals being ignorant, you didn't really go out on a limb. You could say that about any group and be right. As far as all liberals, that's just hyperbole.

If I posted on you it was unintentional . You could be one of those I was. Referring to, I just wanted you decide.

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Sep 25, 2015 04:20:16   #
Jackinthebox Loc: travel the world
 
idaholover wrote:
Or any of the fatherless children. Maybe Donna could adopt Achmed! She could teach him to change her shitty diapers.


One more on a long list of moooslim no-hopers invited to the WH by moooslim obummer.

Will he ever learn! No, it is not a question.

Donna could get a six pack of ever-readies and tape them to her wheel chair and get herself an invite to the WH. Go for it girl. :XD: :lol: :shock: :shock:

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Sep 25, 2015 09:30:57   #
hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts
 
Twardlow wrote:
None of what you say matters. I don't know whether he invented the clock or bought it. Who cares? I don't know why he brought it to school. You don't either. You speculate he had a purpose, but that is only speculation.

You post is entirely presumption.

There is no reasonable cause for any danger whatsoever. Without explosives, ya got nuttin'.

When he breaks a law, or when there is reasonable cause that he might, the law can step in. There Was No Rasonable Cause!

There was no danger; there was no appearance of danger.

There was only inflamed ignorance, panic and fear of a brown-skinned boy with a funny name who practiced something other than Texas approved religion. Gee, a piece of motherboard, a couple of wires in a case.

Run! Run! Run!

Yea, keep running out of Texas!

(AND, since when did a PR ploy, if true, become illegal?)


Racism. Ignorance. Panic.
None of what you say matters. I don't know whethe... (show quote)


Your babbling about there being no explosives is besides the point. When someone calls in a bomb threat and there's no bomb, a crime has still been committed.

This kid brought a faux bomb to school.

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Sep 25, 2015 11:28:47   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
hondo812 wrote:
Your babbling about there being no explosives is besides the point. When someone calls in a bomb threat and there's no bomb, a crime has still been committed.

This kid brought a faux bomb to school.


Who called in a bomb threat?

And how can a faux bomb exist without faux explosives.

It's just a high-tech Timex.


Please ignore this post. I'm just wasting time.

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Sep 25, 2015 11:29:43   #
Twardlow Loc: Arkansas
 
hondo812 wrote:
Your babbling about there being no explosives is besides the point. When someone calls in a bomb threat and there's no bomb, a crime has still been committed.

This kid brought a faux bomb to school.

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Sep 25, 2015 11:30:22   #
venturer9 Loc: Newton, Il.
 
Twardlow wrote:
Who called in a bomb threat?

And how can a faux bomb exist without faux explosives.

It's just a high-tech Timex.



HIGH TECH? looks like a low tech piece of manure to me...

Mike

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Sep 25, 2015 11:36:25   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
venturer9 wrote:
HIGH TECH? looks like a low tech piece of manure to me...

Mike


Need not discuss anything with some folks, Those that still think that Michael Brown was shot because he was of a different race, even though all the evidence proves different, should be avoided. They are the real Racist here on the hog.

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Sep 25, 2015 11:53:51   #
hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts
 
Twardlow wrote:
Who called in a bomb threat?

And how can a faux bomb exist without faux explosives.

It's just a high-tech Timex.


Please ignore this post. I'm just wasting time.



Well not many here will argue with you being a waste of time.

I find it ludicrous that you post "Please ignore this post."

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Sep 25, 2015 17:04:25   #
Los-Angeles-Shooter Loc: Los Angeles
 
hondo812 wrote:
Your babbling about there being no explosives is besides the point. When someone calls in a bomb threat and there's no bomb, a crime has still been committed.

This kid brought a faux bomb to school.


In many ways it's a similar situation to an "armed robbery" using an Airsoft pistol or a "simulated gun." Still a crime.

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Sep 26, 2015 14:18:19   #
Rbode Loc: Ft lauderdale, Fla
 
Bill Maher Nails it: ‘Ahmed Mohamed Didn’t Invent a Clock!’


http://louderwithcrowder.com/bill-maher-nails-it-ahmed-mohamed-didnt-invent-a-clock/

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