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Jul 20, 2015 16:54:46   #
MtnMan Loc: ID
 
RogerG wrote:
I am presently shooting a Nikon D 5200 with a Nikon 18-300 primarily. I also have a Sigma 150-500 with Multiplier and for really close, special work a Sigma 30 MM 1.4. I have taken some really good pic's with each of these but always wonder how would those pics look if I had a D 800 or D 810. I am a rank amateur, no that is not true, I have been an Amateur for a lot of years but am filling my bucket list through travel with a camera. Help me guys should I go big and go to the 800 or 810.

ROG
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I have a D800 and D5300. It is unlikely I would replace the D800 directly if it failed or was stolen, etc. I'd certainly replace the D5300. The light weight, flip screen, and other features of the D5300 are worth it. The D800 pisses me off every time I want to use the remote release. It is a disaster compared to the infrared on the D5xxxs.

I just did a three week European tour and only brought the D5300 because of it's much lighter weight. But I also found myself using the flip screen quite a bit.

But when I am doing landscape shots and travelling in my truck I love the D800. The resolution can't be beat. In places like Yellowstone I keep the Sigma 150-500 on the D5300 and a wide angle on the D800. Works great for me.

(If the D800 got smoked I'd likely replace it with a D750).

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Jul 20, 2015 17:02:08   #
CraigFair Loc: Santa Maria, CA.
 
MtnMan wrote:
I have a D800 and D5300. It is unlikely I would replace the D800 directly if it failed or was stolen, etc. I'd certainly replace the D5300. The light weight, flip screen, and other features of the D5300 are worth it. The D800 pisses me off every time I want to use the remote release. It is a disaster compared to the infrared on the D5xxxs.

I just did a three week European tour and only brought the D5300 because of it's much lighter weight. But I also found myself using the flip screen quite a bit.

But when I am doing landscape shots and travelling in my truck I love the D800. The resolution can't be beat. In places like Yellowstone I keep the Sigma 150-500 on the D5300 and a wide angle on the D800. Works great for me.

(If the D800 got smoked I'd likely replace it with a D750).
I have a D800 and D5300. It is unlikely I would re... (show quote)

It is apparent picture quality is of no concern just the bells and whistles. And if you do get a D750 plan on getting it recall right away like my D600 was.
Craig
I have a D600 & D800E the D600 is for sale it has a new sensor from Nikon.

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Jul 20, 2015 17:32:46   #
JimEaco
 
CraigFair wrote:
It is apparent picture quality is of no concern just the bells and whistles. And if you do get a D750 plan on getting it recall right away like my D600 was.
Craig
I have a D600 & D800E the D600 is for sale it has a new sensor from Nikon.


How much for the 600?

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Jul 20, 2015 17:51:04   #
jcboy3
 
RogerG wrote:
I am presently shooting a Nikon D 5200 with a Nikon 18-300 primarily. I also have a Sigma 150-500 with Multiplier and for really close, special work a Sigma 30 MM 1.4. I have taken some really good pic's with each of these but always wonder how would those pics look if I had a D 800 or D 810. I am a rank amateur, no that is not true, I have been an Amateur for a lot of years but am filling my bucket list through travel with a camera. Help me guys should I go big and go to the 800 or 810.

ROG
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You should buy whatever you want. Be sure to budget for lenses, though; the stuff you have now won't begin to let the camera shine.

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Jul 21, 2015 12:05:21   #
Tracyv Loc: Del Mar, Ca
 
The recall is on early models new ones are fine. I bought a new one in January from Cameta. They sent me a new one when the recall came out. A couple of weeks after I bought it.

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Jul 21, 2015 12:45:36   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
RogerG wrote:
I am presently shooting a Nikon D 5200 with a Nikon 18-300 primarily. I also have a Sigma 150-500 with Multiplier and for really close, special work a Sigma 30 MM 1.4. I have taken some really good pic's with each of these but always wonder how would those pics look if I had a D 800 or D 810. I am a rank amateur, no that is not true, I have been an Amateur for a lot of years but am filling my bucket list through travel with a camera. Help me guys should I go big and go to the 800 or 810.

ROG
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It really depends on the results you want. Today crop sensors produce excellent technical quality but many magazines won't except them because they say they're too small. If you hope to publish, yes FF is the way for you.

Otherwise there's no real need for a FF sensor for home and hobby viewing but hey, got the cash? Got GAS? Perhaps you'll want a FF in any case.

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Jul 22, 2015 07:28:38   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
RogerG wrote:
I am presently shooting a Nikon D 5200 with a Nikon 18-300 primarily. I also have a Sigma 150-500 with Multiplier and for really close, special work a Sigma 30 MM 1.4. I have taken some really good pic's with each of these but always wonder how would those pics look if I had a D 800 or D 810. I am a rank amateur, no that is not true, I have been an Amateur for a lot of years but am filling my bucket list through travel with a camera. Help me guys should I go big and go to the 800 or 810.

ROG
I am presently shooting a Nikon D 5200 with a Niko... (show quote)

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Jul 22, 2015 07:31:46   #
Fotomacher Loc: Toronto
 
RogerG wrote:
I am presently shooting a Nikon D 5200 with a Nikon 18-300 primarily. I also have a Sigma 150-500 with Multiplier and for really close, special work a Sigma 30 MM 1.4. I have taken some really good pic's with each of these but always wonder how would those pics look if I had a D 800 or D 810. I am a rank amateur, no that is not true, I have been an Amateur for a lot of years but am filling my bucket list through travel with a camera. Help me guys should I go big and go to the 800 or 810.

ROG
I am presently shooting a Nikon D 5200 with a Niko... (show quote)


My advice is to keep your body and invest in really good Nikon/Nikkor glass. Buy new or used FX lenses and get really good at composition, lighting, etc. When you feel you have exhausted the capabilities of the camera body, then get a newer one.

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Jul 22, 2015 08:57:15   #
JPL
 
RogerG wrote:
I am presently shooting a Nikon D 5200 with a Nikon 18-300 primarily. I also have a Sigma 150-500 with Multiplier and for really close, special work a Sigma 30 MM 1.4. I have taken some really good pic's with each of these but always wonder how would those pics look if I had a D 800 or D 810. I am a rank amateur, no that is not true, I have been an Amateur for a lot of years but am filling my bucket list through travel with a camera. Help me guys should I go big and go to the 800 or 810.

ROG
I am presently shooting a Nikon D 5200 with a Niko... (show quote)


If money spent is not a big factor in this decision you should go for the D810. Then you are better prepared for the present and the future as well.

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Jul 22, 2015 10:34:23   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
RogerG wrote:
I am presently shooting a Nikon D 5200 with a Nikon 18-300 primarily. I also have a Sigma 150-500 with Multiplier and for really close, special work a Sigma 30 MM 1.4. I have taken some really good pic's with each of these but always wonder how would those pics look if I had a D 800 or D 810. I am a rank amateur, no that is not true, I have been an Amateur for a lot of years but am filling my bucket list through travel with a camera. Help me guys should I go big and go to the 800 or 810.

ROG
I am presently shooting a Nikon D 5200 with a Niko... (show quote)


My understanding is that full frame is better with wide angle lenses, more options than with DX. A 12mm FX lens is 12mm equivalent, a 12mm DX lens is an 18mm equivalent in the old 35mm format. Telephoto is the opposite. Also, FX lenses are heavier and more expensive than DX lenses. Hope this helps.

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Jul 22, 2015 10:59:36   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
gvarner wrote:
My understanding is that full frame is better with wide angle lenses, more options than with DX. A 12mm FX lens is 12mm equivalent, a 12mm DX lens is an 18mm equivalent in the old 35mm format. Telephoto is the opposite. ...

Could you re-phrase those statements a bit more clearly?

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Jul 22, 2015 12:00:39   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
oldtigger wrote:
Could you re-phrase those statements a bit more clearly?


With respect to the old 35mm format, the crop factor for a DX sensor is about 1.5, for an FX it's about 1.0. So a 12mm lens on an FX sensor is 12mm, while the same focal length on a DX is equivalent to an 18mm in the 35mm frame format. These are approximates of course. So an ultrawide 12mm on a DX camera would only be equivalent to an 18mm lens on an FX camera. Sorry, but this is the best I can do. Also, I've read that the smaller DX sensor would have a greater DOF than the larger FX sensor. Why this is so I'm not sure. It's why cell phones have such tremendous DOF in most snapshot situations.

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Jul 22, 2015 12:26:07   #
CraigFair Loc: Santa Maria, CA.
 
gvarner wrote:
I've read that the smaller DX sensor would have a greater DOF than the larger FX sensor. Why this is so I'm not sure. It's why cell phones have such tremendous DOF in most snapshot situations.

I can't wait for someone to explain this.
I really want to know the answer.
Craig

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Jul 22, 2015 13:34:10   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
gvarner wrote:
.,,, a 12mm DX lens is an 18mm equivalent in the old 35mm format. Telephoto is the opposite. ...

i'm still trying to understand why telephoto is the opposite.

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Jul 22, 2015 13:57:02   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
oldtigger wrote:
i'm still trying to understand why telephoto is the opposite.


From what I've read, tele's on a DX camera have a slight advantage because they are lighter weight AND, because of the crop factor, would be equivalent to a 300mm on an FX body. Plus they're cheaper than FX lenses. But I suppose there are arguments either way.

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