Being at Work but Not Getting Paid
Jun 15, 2015 10:30:00 #
ole sarg
Loc: south florida
There is a good basis for a suit!
They can search all they want, but on their time not the employees, especially if the company has a stated policy that one has to be searched before leaving!
They can search all they want, but on their time not the employees, especially if the company has a stated policy that one has to be searched before leaving!
Jun 15, 2015 10:33:13 #
ole sarg wrote:
There is a good basis for a suit!
They can search all they want, but on their time not the employees, especially if the company has a stated policy that one has to be searched before leaving!
They can search all they want, but on their time not the employees, especially if the company has a stated policy that one has to be searched before leaving!
Supreme court has already ruled it's legal. And where I work you know it's going to happen if you take the job.
Jun 15, 2015 10:35:21 #
Crap, my grocery cart gets searched and checked against the register receipt every time I leave Costco.
Jun 15, 2015 10:51:11 #
Why would it take 10 or 15 minutes to get checked? It seems that it would only take a few seconds like walking out of Costco.
jerryc41 wrote:
This seems odd. Apple store employees must submit to a search of their bags, totes, or whatever, before they leave after their shift ends. They have already clocked out, but they are delayed another ten or fifteen minutes, for which they do not have to be paid.
http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/11/apple-store-security-checks/
http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/11/apple-store-security-checks/
Jun 15, 2015 12:22:15 #
Croce
Loc: Earth
I have no quarrel with the searches however since the time spent is mandated by the company they are therefore still under company control I believe they should be paid.
Jun 15, 2015 12:43:31 #
CA_CanonUser
Loc: Friendswood, TX
And when Costco or Sam's searches your basket as your leave, they are fingering/touching your property because you paid for it prior to the search. I like to wear clothing with lots of pockets to those stores. After I have paid for my stuff, I cram my pockets full of those items small enough to fit. Nothing Costco or Sam's can do about it since I am stuffing my property into my pockets.
Jun 15, 2015 13:17:33 #
It's ironic that you have to submit to being searched and drug tested when you are working at a job. But if you are unemployed, you can't be searched or drug tested while collecting a welfare check.
Jun 15, 2015 13:33:25 #
jerryc41 wrote:
This seems odd. Apple store employees must submit to a search of their bags, totes, or whatever, before they leave after their shift ends. They have already clocked out, but they are delayed another ten or fifteen minutes, for which they do not have to be paid.
http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/11/apple-store-security-checks/
http://9to5mac.com/2015/06/11/apple-store-security-checks/
Interesting. I can certainly see both sides. I too agree the employees should be paid but leave it to the courts and our honorable judges to decide against the workers.
Jun 15, 2015 13:51:12 #
See earlier posts this thread. Supreme Court has already said it's legal.
Jun 15, 2015 14:59:39 #
picturesofdogs wrote:
Sometimes. Right after I started work there some guys were caught on third shift using the equipment to make hang glider frames. That was over 25 years ago. Had a shooting at one of our plants about 9 years ago. Lots of reasons for checking, though theft is the most common.
about 25 years ago I worked for a large aerospace company that had announced it was terminating aerospace manufacturing operations despite having live contracts that were good for 5- 10 years more work. Well it seems that some people on third shift made themselves useful "liberating" the entire payroll computer system, large machine shop mills and lathes and anything else that was bolted down. Their problem commenced instantly as they overlooked the point that these machines were in fact mostly owned by the U.S.A.F. resulting in both O.S.I. and F.B.I. after them.
Jun 15, 2015 15:08:43 #
SHUTERED wrote:
about 25 years ago I worked for a large aerospace ... (show quote)
They split ownership of our company several years ago. The other section was closed about three years ago. The employees helped themselves to what was left. The owners were moving the plant and had already taken what they wanted. Nobody cared as what was left got destroyed.
Jun 15, 2015 15:11:47 #
Let's not forget that companies who have federal contracts also do drug testing for pot, even in states which have unfortunately "legalized" it.
Jun 15, 2015 15:26:13 #
Jun 15, 2015 15:43:21 #
This reminds me of the issue the UFW brought up a few years ago demanding farm workers be paid when they get on the bus to be carried to the fields. Sometimes there could be a considerable distance to travel but the contractors provided the service at no charge to the workers. After the UFW won the case, the labor contractors complied for about one season then required the workers provide their own transportation to the work site. Now the borders of the fields are lined with the workers personal vehicles come rain or shine.
There is another case pending I think regarding the time a worker requires to suit up for work in a hazardous environment.
So should employees of sensitive, vulnerable businesses submit to inspection prior to leaving the work site? Should they be paid for the time it takes? Perhaps the business should make an allowance (5-10-15 min?) on the time card rather than expecting the employee to absorb it. There are reasonable solutions rather than turning this into another divisive scandal.
There is another case pending I think regarding the time a worker requires to suit up for work in a hazardous environment.
So should employees of sensitive, vulnerable businesses submit to inspection prior to leaving the work site? Should they be paid for the time it takes? Perhaps the business should make an allowance (5-10-15 min?) on the time card rather than expecting the employee to absorb it. There are reasonable solutions rather than turning this into another divisive scandal.
Jun 15, 2015 15:58:40 #
Thruxton wrote:
This reminds me of the issue the UFW brought up a ... (show quote)
How exactly is this a scandal? The employee's know it's a requirement when they accept the job. The courts have already ruled. If they don't like it, quit whining and find another job. If you're adult enough to take the job you should be adult enough to live with both it's good and bad parts. No sympathy here.
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