amfoto1 wrote:
Incorrect... The 70-200/2.8 "Mark I"
has IS. Though it's an older 2-3 stop version vs the 3-4 stop version on the Mark II. The Mark II has better/sharper IQ wide open (again, likely due to the addition of fluorite element), and works better with teleconverters. There are some other differences... The Mark II is a little closer focusing and gives slightly higher magnification.
There
is also a non-IS version of the 70-200/2.8, still in production and has sold alongside both the f2.8 IS Mark I and Mark II, as well as the two f4 lenses. The 70-200/2.8
non-IS is the oldest 70-200mm model Canon offers, with the weakest IQ (though it's really still pretty darned good).
I'd recommend reading the review at
http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/Canon-EF-70-200mm-f-2.8-L-IS-II-USM-Lens-Review.aspx, as well as using that site's lens comparison tools to see for yourself the differences in IQ, both between the Canon versions and with the Sigma and Tamron alternatives.
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Wasn't picking nits. Your statement, as originally posted, made it seem that you were unaware that the 100-400 L II had a fluorite element.
You are correct about the original 70-200 2.8 L vs the Mk I. My mistake. But since the original is still a very good lens, and since it is the only L version, aside from the Mk II, available new, I doubt the OP got too confused. For that matter, a used or refurbed Mk I would also seem to be a good option for him to consider.
oleairman wrote:
question new and I was wanting to buy this lens but $$$ man is there one you may recommend that is same speed and durable as this..???
Very easy answer, the Tamron 70-200mm 2.8 rates equal to the Nikon & Canon Lenses. And goes for $1050.00.
Craig
cheineck wrote:
Hate to say it, but my Tamron 70-200 2.8, etc. comes within 2% of the the Canon's quality at a heck of a lot cheaper price.
Cheineck(and now Craig), I HATE TO SAY IT, but your Tamron is NOT as good, sharpness-wise or as the Canon 70-200 f4 IS, the Canon 70-200 2.8 IS mkl and probably even the 70-200 f4 non-IS lenses, let alone the new Mkll lens. And SEVERAL of those lenses are less money than the Tamron!
I'd like to see WHERE you came up with that 2% figure?!???! Did you just throw it out there??? :lol:
SS
I wondered about that too? The Tamron lenses I've owned are usually slower and nowhere near the clarity of my Canon lenses.
Chris
SharpShooter wrote:
Cheineck(and now Craig), I HATE TO SAY IT, but your Tamron is NOT as good, sharpness-wise or as the Canon 70-200 f4 IS, the Canon 70-200 2.8 IS mkl and probably even the 70-200 f4 non-IS lenses, let alone the new Mkll lens. And SEVERAL of those lenses are less money than the Tamron!
I'd like to see WHERE you came up with that 2% figure?!???! Did you just throw it out there??? :lol:
SS
Amfoto1 also fails to mention the 80-200 2.8 Canon - as well as the f4 non IS having fluorite and having as good if not better IQ as ANY of the 70-200's - as well as taking TC's as well !
SharpShooter wrote:
Cheineck(and now Craig), I HATE TO SAY IT, but your Tamron is NOT as good, sharpness-wise or as the Canon 70-200 f4 IS, the Canon 70-200 2.8 IS mkl and probably even the 70-200 f4 non-IS lenses, let alone the new Mkll lens. And SEVERAL of those lenses are less money than the Tamron!
I'd like to see WHERE you came up with that 2% figure?!???! Did you just throw it out there??? :lol:
SS
WOW!!! Do a little research before going off the deep end. I was being kind when I said the Canon lenses where just as good.
They actually are not even close to the quality of the Tamron 70-200 2.8.
Now read the Ratings and take back your nonsense. SS you are usually right on with your comments what happened???
http://www.dxomark.com/Lenses/Compare/Side-by-side/EF70-200mm-f-2.8L-IS-USM-versus-Tamron-SP-70-200mm-F28-Di-VC-USD-Canon___222_0_1027_0Craig
imagemeister wrote:
Amfoto1 also fails to mention the 80-200 2.8 Canon - as well as the f4 non IS having fluorite and having as good if not better IQ as ANY of the 70-200's - as well as taking TC's as well !
Amfoto is slipping!!
Meister, tell me which punishment fits that heinous crime!!!
I can drive over there(I do know the way to San Jose!), and either kick him in the shin, or, I can wrestle him onto a cross, nail him onto it and then light him on fire!!!!
Just want to be sure I do the right thing! :lol: :lol:
SS
SharpShooter wrote:
Amfoto is slipping!!
Meister, tell me which punishment fits that heinous crime!!!
I can drive over there(I do know the way to San Jose!), and either kick him in the shin, or, I can wrestle him onto a cross, nail him onto it and then light him on fire!!!!
Just want to be sure I do the right thing! :lol: :lol:
SS
:thumbup:
Shot below with Canon 80-200 2.8 L W/2X Tamron SP ......
There is no substitution! I have it on my 60d still trying to tame it! It exceeds my ability
oleairman wrote:
question new and I was wanting to buy this lens but $$$ man is there one you may recommend that is same speed and durable as this..???
make the sacrifice if it is with possiblilies. I would buy used if I could see it in person or have return priviledges at a good store like Adorama or B&H. This lense will keep it's value, so it is not money down the drain. I will say that you need to microfocus at several focal lengths, to be sure it is spot on. You can see how to do that at birdsasart.com My wife shot a kingfisher with this lens at 2.8 after sundown in a dark mangrove swamp with a 5D3 at 25,000 ISO. It is amazing, people rave over it, while there is some noise it is not an issue
I am on the road and don't have the photo to up load, but if you will send me a message or email I can send the photo and other shot with this lens if you would like. You will love this lens!
CraigFair wrote:
WOW!!! Do a little research before going off the deep end. I was being kind when I said the Canon lenses where just as good.
They actually are not even close to the quality of the Tamron 70-200 2.8.
Now read the Ratings and take back your nonsense. SS you are usually right on with your comments what happened???
:lol: Craig, you should be ashamed of yourself. That camera is almost 10 years old and the lens 15!!
But, I see you are strictly a DXO'er!!
I'd like to see the MTF's for both lenses which DXO will not use. Did dxo measure in the mid-lens and the corners? Even that new Tamron falls apart in the corners. I've never read a real world test where a Tamron was better than a Canon zoom.
Either way we'll never see an apples to apples test between the two because of the age differences.
If I were offered either a Tamron or a mkll at no cost, I can tell you which one I'd grab!
If I were offered a Tamron of a new-old stock Canon mkl I'd still take the Canon. I place a lot of importance on the long end and the focus reliability.
Obviously, you'd take the Tammy over either Canon!! :lol:
SS
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