ecar Loc: Oregon, USA

So Reap, have you gone digital yet?

I saw the train coming down the road. No sense in holding on to film. It's like any other form of technology, warm up to it, cause eventually, that's what it's gonna be. Digital has alot easier and more convenient functions & features, and some more painful. But the neatest thing is you don't have to wait for the results.

But yep, some like to philosophese the diff functions. Just remember, they couldn't do this back in film days, cause they didn't have computers to link them up!

SharpShooter Loc: NorCal

Shark, let's divide this different.
No matter WHAT you like to shoot, HOW you like to shoot it, or how long you been doing that......,but let's divide this into anyone that has shot a roll of film, processed it themselves and done a wet print themselves......, in say....., the last 30 days. No Digitizing, no scanning, NO Bull-Sh*T!!!!
That will rule out all the posers and everybody that has actually forgotten how to do it and is not just living in the past.
How many do YOU think would be left in the club?!?!?
There would be a lot less MUD in the water!!
Hey....., just trying to SCARE ya!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
SS

BebuLamar

Uhm! I shot film seriously since 1977 and process, make wet prints in color and B&W since 1979 but no I didn't do any of those in the last 30 days. I stopped using film since I bought my first DSLR in Dec 2013.
I think I would dig out my film camera and shoot some film next week but I won't do any darkroom as I sold all the darkroom stuff months ago. I bought my DSLR when I went to the largest photo store in Dallas trying to buy a roll of Ektar and the guys laugh at me. Yeah I can still shoot film but it's getting so hard now. Back in 83-84 when I managed a 1hr photo finishing shop it was so easy. Shoot the film bring back to the shop runt it thru the C41 processor and then making prints in less than an hour. And yes I could get the color balance and print density just the way I wanted too.

Lynn L Loc: Northern IL

Green Reaper, I agree totally. I'm an old film, zone system, guy also. I have discovered that the new built in exposure systems are MUCH better than they use to be. I shoot some M, and mostly A. And best deal of all, for an old guy like me, is I have an OLY EM-1, and what I see on either the evf or the back screen is exactly what the photo will look when captured. Like you said, I look at the evf, if I don't like what I see I adjust till it looks right. I loved the old way years ago, but I really love the new way better. Glad you posted your thought. P.S. Remember ever bouncing a glass gallon bottle of fresh made fixer on the cement dark room floor? Now, I might drop a mouse, but he usually isn't dead & clean up is a ton easier.

martinfisherphoto Loc: Lake Placid Florida

I couldn't agree more.. The more folks complain about how hard photography is, they more they can excuse their inability to take photos. Learn/understand, the exposure triangle and this will open all the doors to all the different types of photography. Here's a little read for you that might explain why people/some folks/ like to make it hard..http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/7.htm#0

jcboy3

Even when I was "old school" I worried about depth of field, subject motion, how much I could push ASA, whether I had to limit shutter speed for flash, how much ambient I wanted to mix with my flash, how to adjust exposure for double/triple exposure, whether to spot meter or average (or take multiple spot readings), what filters I needed for color correction.

Or how to cut my dodge and burn masks.

Or whether the lab I sent my slides too was any damn good.

Guess I just wasn't "old school" enough.

Mudshark Loc: Illinois

The weekend after I picked up my brand spanking new Canon D1s, a 16-35 and a 70-200…I ran my last film job for a catalog. Do not want to discuss my mental state as I worked my way through the damn instruction manual. Within a few weeks I was honk'n on down the road…I've never shot film again and after many decades…do not miss it…!!!
I shoot a 5DII for a lot of stuff and a 5DIII for sports, moving stuff, etc. Love the III am about to retire the II to the newspaper side only and pick up another III. On occasion I need two bodies and I don't like switching back and forth between the two somewhat different setups. A 24-105, a 70-200 and a speed light make a fairly comprehensive package. Favorite lens for many shoots is the 135 f2L prime…most excellent…
Early on I was confused…coming from 6X7 roll and 4X5 sheet film…I just wasn't ready for the "program" world. Was having a really tough time…Wayne, now retired from Schiller's in St. Louis said "Hey…just turn all that stuff off and shoot manual-Raw." That, for me was the answer. Now, over the years I do occasionally venture into one program or the other…but always RAW. I only use the program when "I" deem in a benefit…Everything goes through Phase One/ Capture One...

Loose Canon Loc: Mesa, AZ

I think there are two huge advantages to the digital camera. First is obviously the cost per pic, and second is that having a digital along with you makes a great test run for settings before burning up the costly film. Probably slightly different results, but it should get you close ? Can't say for sure, but it makes sense ?

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Exactly the point I have been trying to make to what appeared for a long time to be an audience of one.

Exposure is not rocket science. If you feel the least but uneasy about getting it right, bracket. If you want to live on the edge, so to speak (by using ETTR with digital), you should still bracket.

If you are using digital, bracketing is essentially free. If you are using film, it is no where near as expensive as the amount you paid to travel to where you are taking the picture.

So we should all lighten up and have fun.

jcboy3

If you bracket +0- then do you darken down?

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Huh :?:

JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco

Bracketing is great with static subjects, but if you are shooting anything moving, even portraits, and you bracket, you only have a one in three chance that your best shot will be the optimum exposure, so you need to take care that the exposure is right and shoot them all at that exposure.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

Of course, when I suggested bracketing, I was not talking about action shots.

It is rare that the subject brightness range is too wide and at the same time the subject movement is too fast to get a useful exposure at the right time. Even digital has some latitude.

You should not over-think this and tie yourself in knots to the point of paralysis.