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Nikkor AF-S 80-400mm lens with TC-14E III Teleconverter
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Apr 26, 2015 09:28:42   #
ecommons
 
I don't know how heavy the lens is, but long heavy lenses and teleconvertors mounted on a camera, could strain or damage the lens mount. Unless your lens mounts direct to the tripod, I couldn't recommend this combination.

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Apr 26, 2015 09:54:30   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 
ecommons wrote:
I don't know how heavy the lens is, but long heavy lenses and teleconvertors mounted on a camera, could strain or damage the lens mount. Unless your lens mounts direct to the tripod, I couldn't recommend this combination.


The Nikon 80-400mm comes with a tripod mount.

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Apr 26, 2015 09:55:05   #
PaulE911 Loc: Traveling the World
 
While not a big fan of Teleconverters, I do use the TC-14E III with my Nikkor 80-400mm on a Nikon D810, usually for birding. On a bright day it does give extended reach, and of requisite sharpness for further cropping if needed. While I do not own the Nikon TC17 or TC2, several birders I have been in the field with do, and would not reccomned these on the 80-400; they work on the larger prime lenses, but have focus issues on the 80-400. One drawback of the TC is it limits your aperture to F8 or smaller; so you need to watch depth of field if you are trying to isolate a smaller subject.

If you have frequent need to shoot a widely varying distances, where you do not have good options to move closer (i.e. birding from a boat) I would highly recommend the TC-14 over strictly cropping.

I took the attached picture last month with the TC-14. 550mm, 1/2000, F8, iso100

Nikon 80-400, TC14, 550mm, 1/2000, F8, iso100
Nikon 80-400, TC14, 550mm, 1/2000, F8, iso100...
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Apr 26, 2015 10:46:58   #
Trabor
 
Gene51 Thanks for a response that finally addresses the question. Remember a TC does not change focal length it only magnifies the image, reducing the FOV ( like a crop sensor) If your final image quality if affected by sensor pixilation rather than lens fuzziness then a TC might help, with my D800 and the current 80-400 zoom, IQ is obviously limited by the lens, therefore a TC would not help.. The question is not whether the TC with 80-400 zoom and D800/D810 can produce a usable picture, but rather could one get the same or better result by cropping



Gene51 wrote:
Extenders work best with fast prime telephoto lenses. They are pretty good with fast tele zooms. The 80-400 is neither. At 400mm the quality is barely acceptable. Through an extender on it, sure it will work - but if your intent is to get closer with mm to bet more detail, you're not going to get it. And you will have to contend with more noise from needing higher ISO and slower focusing. Fast primes and pro-level zooms are extremely sharp, so a 5% loss of acuity is manageable but the 80-400 compared to a 400mm prime or even the 200-400 prime isn't even in the same ballpark. Putting a TC on it won't get you what you are looking for.

BTW, what are you using for support of your planned 640mm lens (or longer if you are on a cropped sensor)?
Extenders work best with fast prime telephoto lens... (show quote)

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Apr 26, 2015 12:17:56   #
torchman310 Loc: Santa Clarita, Ca.
 
dougneve wrote:
I have just purchased a Nikkor AF-S 80-400mm lens and am considering using this from time to time with either the Nikon TC-14E II or TC-14E III teleconverter. I am wondering if it is physically possible to use either of the teleconverters with this lens and if anyone has any experience of this combination.


Get onto a camera store website, click on the Nikon TC and it will tell you what lenses it is compatible with.

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Apr 26, 2015 13:44:38   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
Screamin Scott wrote:
Is that the newer or the older 80-400 ?


New one just purchased. I had the old one many years ago and gave up on it to slow to focus

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Apr 26, 2015 14:26:44   #
terlap Loc: Everett, Washington
 
I have that exact setup and use it all the time with my tele 14E II.
You must have enough light and be using a camera that has f8 assist. I used it on a D800 and D810. You get 560 reach but boy you had better be shooting fast or on a tripod.
Here is a shot I took with it on the Skagit River on a pitching boat!
You need to practice!



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Apr 26, 2015 20:01:06   #
texaseve Loc: TX, NC and NH
 
I wouldn't use a teleconverter on that lens.... I have the older one (still a VR) and it would lose too much light. The previous answer is correct about fast shutter speed and tripod.... although for me it is the light issue.

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Apr 26, 2015 21:33:10   #
Chelli
 
imagemeister wrote:
Depending on exactly what camera body you are using, you may be better off cropping and using well applied pixel enlargement - no physicalities to contend with and you do not loose 1 stop of light.


What is applied pixel enlargement and how is it done?
Thank you.

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Apr 27, 2015 09:40:45   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Chelli wrote:
What is applied pixel enlargement and how is it done?
Thank you.


Some cameras, most notably Sony, can do it in camera - Sony calls it "Clear Image Zoom" (CIZ) - shot as JPEG only.

In post process, Adobe resizing programs use the default "bicubic" algorithms - where it is best to use the "bicubic smoother for enlargements" in 10% or less increments.

There are several dedicated post processing software programs that you have to pay for........

You may try a google search for "pixel enlargement" or similar.

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Apr 27, 2015 12:14:38   #
Chelli
 
imagemeister wrote:
Some cameras, most notably Sony, can do it in camera - Sony calls it "Clear Image Zoom" (CIZ) - shot as JPEG only.

In post process, Adobe resizing programs use the default "bicubic" algorithms - where it is best to use the "bicubic smoother for enlargements" in 10% or less increments.

There are several dedicated post processing software programs that you have to pay for........

You may try a google search for "pixel enlargement" or similar.
Some cameras, most notably Sony, can do it in came... (show quote)


Thank you.

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Apr 27, 2015 14:16:04   #
dougneve Loc: Eastbourne, U.K.
 
Thank you for your response, which was very informative. I am not familiar with the TC-14. This does not seem to be available from suppliers here in the U.K., however I will have a look around for this item.
Regards.

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Apr 27, 2015 14:16:49   #
dougneve Loc: Eastbourne, U.K.
 
Thank you for your response.

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Apr 27, 2015 14:17:59   #
dougneve Loc: Eastbourne, U.K.
 
Thank you for your response. I will look into the system you have suggested.

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Apr 27, 2015 14:19:38   #
dougneve Loc: Eastbourne, U.K.
 
Thank you for your response and your comments were helpful. Your image looks superb.

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