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Feb 4, 2015 11:11:11   #
James Shaw
 
idaholover wrote:
Obama has already destroyed us economically. And if you think you will get a well planned military strategy from Obama I have a SNL skit I would like to submit for review!

Wrong and a naieve statement you make:
Your words, potato man: "Obama has already destroyed us economically."

So, potato man, please explain the crash occurred during the Bush Presidency, and that the economy is back and doing much better than expected?
historical chart at: http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/usmarkets/snapshot.asp?symbol=599362

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Dow Industrials from Bush to Obama
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Feb 4, 2015 11:14:57   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
James Shaw wrote:
Wrong and a naieve statement you make:
Your words, potato man: "Obama has already destroyed us economically."

So, potato man, please explain the crash occurred during the Bush Presidency, and that the economy is back and doing much better than expected?
historical chart at: http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/usmarkets/snapshot.asp?symbol=599362

PLEASE CLICK ON DOWNLOAD (BELOW) TO SEE THE GRAPH


Stick your head back in the ground so no one can see you.

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Feb 4, 2015 11:23:33   #
James Shaw
 
Quote:
James Shaw wrote:
Yes, I say for us to use logic. We should not enter into a conflict with ISIS, and their barbarianism, which they have used since the 6th century and continue to use now. That is exactly what they want us to do, yet once again.

Read history man. It has always been with Muslims that when outnumbered they take off their uniforms (black dresses today), blend into the background, then slit our throats one by one, from behind. When their numbers rise, again, they get back into their black dresses and yell, "kill the infidels."

To pack up all of those tanks, armored vehicles, guns, and troops on ships and take them to the mid-east, to have our troops killed and equipment stolen and give to the enemy, as was done in our conflict in Afghanistan and Iraq wars, that we have lost by the way, and that continue even today, is not logic in my opinion?

Just get the hell out of the mid-east and in 5 minutes they will be back cutting each others throats and begging us to buy their oil once again.

We must be smarter, and contrary to what you say we must use logic. If we can get a coalition of European forces as we did in WWII, then I say OK, but no we should not place our boots on the ground next to Muslim forces.

I am "smarter" than that.
James Shaw wrote: br Yes, I say for us to use logi... (show quote)
thom w wrote:
I didn't say WE shouldn't use logic. I was suggesting it is futile to use logic in your argument to your intended audience here on UHH.

Well, thank you for the clarification.

With the exception Larry-the-loser-Payne, who is logic's worse enemy, many others on UHH are logical and understand logic, so I don't feel that I am "futile" in my attempts to communicate with logical folks. :-)

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Feb 4, 2015 11:27:10   #
idaholover Loc: Nampa ID
 
James Shaw wrote:
Wrong and a naieve statement you make:
Your words, potato man: "Obama has already destroyed us economically."

So, potato man, please explain the crash occurred during the Bush Presidency, and that the economy is back and doing much better than expected?
historical chart at: http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/usmarkets/snapshot.asp?symbol=599362

PLEASE CLICK ON DOWNLOAD (BELOW) TO SEE THE GRAPH

Sorry, my New Years resolution: I will not respond to elitist arrogant, disrespectful pricks! Your Dow is based on a phony economy but I would suggest you put everything you have in there!

http://www.voicesofliberty.com/article/new-evidence-of-big-government-faking-economic-recovery/

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Feb 4, 2015 11:29:07   #
James Shaw
 
Quote:
"My point is that ISIS wants U.S. and European troops on the ground because they know it would turn out just like our defeats in Iraq and Afghanistan. They want to ruin us economically and in every other way possible."
davidheald1942 wrote:
You mean they don't know were are already ruined economically and most other way??

I don't know what "they know," but, personally, unlike you, I remain hopeful, and I do not think "we are already ruined economically."

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Feb 4, 2015 11:31:38   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
soba1 wrote:
Explain it then............................
Just another explanation.
You believe all of what the mainstream media tells you.
What reason would they have to harm Japanese.
I was surprised when I saw two Japanese hostages.


I don't believe all that the mainstream media tells me, but that doesn't mean that I then have to believe any ludicrous web site either. Look at all the stuff that LP provides links for. Do you think they are all true?

I think your last two sentences point out why a lot of people believe elaborate conspiracies instead of some simple facts. If they can't figure out why something happened (for example, since I would not have done things that way) they can't imagine that it happened at all. Sometimes things do happen that we do not understand. Just look at the success of Paris Hilton!

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Feb 4, 2015 11:36:18   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
James Shaw wrote:
Wrong and a naieve statement you make:
Your words, potato man: "Obama has already destroyed us economically."

So, potato man, please explain the crash occurred during the Bush Presidency, and that the economy is back and doing much better than expected?
historical chart at: http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/usmarkets/snapshot.asp?symbol=599362

PLEASE CLICK ON DOWNLOAD (BELOW) TO SEE THE GRAPH


This is a paper recovery.This is not the measure of a strong rebound.
The way sectors of the economy are defined has been manipulated by a political party.We are still printing worthless money...for 6-7 years now.
The way unemployment is counted should scare the hell out of any logical mind.

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Feb 4, 2015 11:37:10   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
James Shaw wrote:
Wrong and a naieve statement you make:
Your words, potato man: "Obama has already destroyed us economically."

So, potato man, please explain the crash occurred during the Bush Presidency, and that the economy is back and doing much better than expected?
historical chart at: http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/usmarkets/snapshot.asp?symbol=599362

PLEASE CLICK ON DOWNLOAD (BELOW) TO SEE THE GRAPH


You might want to consider this....................
Don't know how true it is but at least consider it......

http://www.gallup.com/opinion/chairman/181469/big-lie-unemployment.aspx

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Feb 4, 2015 11:40:35   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
James Shaw wrote:
Well, thank you for the clarification.

With the exception Larry-the-loser-Payne, who is logic's worse enemy, many others on UHH are logical and understand logic, so I don't feel that I am "futile" in my attempts to communicate with logical folks. :-)


I didn't see that it was working, at all.

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Feb 4, 2015 11:41:28   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
While we keep spening so much on ficking war this is happening..................
People are so drunk on friggin kool-aid

http://www.vice.com/read/america-is-collapsing-a-brief-look-at-the-us-infrastructure-meltdown-130

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Feb 4, 2015 11:48:54   #
James Shaw
 
idaholover wrote:
Sorry, my New Years resolution: I will not respond to elitist arrogant, disrespectful pricks! Your Dow is based on a phony economy but I would suggest you put everything you have in there!

http://www.voicesofliberty.com/article/new-evidence-of-big-government-faking-economic-recovery/

"Prick," you call me. Sticks and stones..... LOL.

Hey spud, no disrespect intended. I thought Idaho was proud of their 'taters.' I love them. They are excellent.

I went to your web site, but must say, after reviewing their biased viewpoint, think I shall stay with the stock market as one indicator of what is happening.

We are not where we were when the market crashed.

Thank you, nevertheless, for you side of things.

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Feb 4, 2015 11:54:20   #
James Shaw
 
Quote:
James Shaw wrote:
Wrong and a naieve statement you make:
Your words, potato man: "Obama has already destroyed us economically."

So, potato man, please explain the crash occurred during the Bush Presidency, and that the economy is back and doing much better than expected?
historical chart at: http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/usmarkets/snapshot.asp?symbol=599362

PLEASE CLICK ON DOWNLOAD (BELOW) TO SEE THE GRAPH
soba1 wrote:
You might want to consider this....................
Don't know how true it is but at least consider it......

http://www.gallup.com/opinion/chairman/181469/big-lie-unemployment.aspx


Read it (your site), and yes we need more jobs. But things are improving. We must look at ourselves as being on a different path than we have ever been on before and that we are trying to cope with that change. We can never go back, entirely.

Thanks for your post.

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Feb 4, 2015 11:58:14   #
James Shaw
 
Quote:
James Shaw wrote:
Wrong and a naieve statement you make:
Your words, potato man: "Obama has already destroyed us economically."

So, potato man, please explain the crash occurred during the Bush Presidency, and that the economy is back and doing much better than expected?
historical chart at: http://markets.on.nytimes.com/research/markets/usmarkets/snapshot.asp?symbol=599362

PLEASE CLICK ON DOWNLOAD (BELOW) TO SEE THE GRAPH
BigBear wrote:
Stick your head back in the ground so no one can see you.

Thanks, but I shall not accept your "kind" directive, as to what I should do with my head. lol

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Feb 4, 2015 11:58:14   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
idaholover wrote:
Sorry, my New Years resolution: I will not respond to elitist arrogant, disrespectful pricks! Your Dow is based on a phony economy but I would suggest you put everything you have in there!

http://www.voicesofliberty.com/article/new-evidence-of-big-government-faking-economic-recovery/


Aaaaaaha................
Thats where upper 1% is putting their money pumping up the stack markets. Its not trickling down to create jobs... :hunf:

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Feb 4, 2015 12:01:12   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
James Shaw wrote:
"Prick," you call me. Sticks and stones..... LOL.

Hey spud, no disrespect intended. I thought Idaho was proud of their 'taters.' I love them. They are excellent.

I went to your web site, but must say, after reviewing their biased viewpoint, think I shall stay with the stock market as one indicator of what is happening.

We are not where we were when the market crashed.

Thank you, nevertheless, for you side of things.


To even have a good life keep your head above water you need a minimum of 20.00 an hour in LA; at 40hrs per week.
I don't see it from what I have read so many are under employed.
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/02/04/396068/NYC-homeless-population-hits-record

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