American Sniper - An Alternative View (Page 2): Most wars are fought to make a few very rich, while sacrificing the lives of American youth. American sons and daughters are only...

TheeGambler Loc: The green pastures of Northeast Texas

Most wars are fought to make a few very rich, while sacrificing the lives of American youth.
American sons and daughters are only "fodder" for the political elites. Lets not forget the political kick-backs from the friends and relatives that get these contracts...

The Mid-East will never change. They haven't changed since the 7th Century.
If America is threatened.. strike, demolish, and leave the enemy in the rubble to fend for themselves. Don't make American troops rebuild their shopping malls. Make enemies pay a price, quickly. Forget PC. Fourteen years of feeding the beast and feeding the foreign dictators is enough. American money needs to stay at home. Stop redistributing American blood and treasure throughout the world's terrorists. There is enough oil money in the ME for them to pay to fight their own wars, if they weren't cowards.

TheeGambler Loc: The green pastures of Northeast Texas

Duggy wrote:

Everything today is political.

Everything today is corrupt (but you can easily interchange the word, political.)

momad30044

jerryc41 wrote:

Interesting article.

http://www.salon.com/2015/02/01/i_was_an_american_sniper_and_chris_kyle%E2%80%99s_war_was_not_my_war/

Thank you. I'll not be watching the movie.

Shutter Bugger

In the movie Kyle was portrayed using a Remington 700.

I was surprised by that. I thought you guys used M14s
for sniper rifles.

I was totally amazed that he made a successful shot with a Remington 700 (presumably a .308) at a range of over 2 kilometres.

Can anyone clarify this.

IBIJC

I'm sure there will be thousands of opinions on the hundreds of aspects to this movie. And each one will have some validity according to their perceptions and exposure to Kyle's experience and their own.
All I have to say is 'Thank you' to all those service men and women who gave part or all o themselves to preserve America's Freedom.
Clint Eastwood, whether you like the movie or not, at least brought deserved attention to those that served and gave to their country.
What hsve the rest of the objectors done ?

IBIJC

TheeGambler Loc: The green pastures of Northeast Texas

momad30044 wrote:

Thank you. I'll not be watching the movie.

There are always alternatives to watching the American Sniper movie. For instance, one can watch the videos proudly released by those nice terrorists (referred to as savages by some.) I believe there is a new video just out showing a prisoner being burned alive in a metal cage. Heard they did a great job on the video, it was "movie quality."

Duggy

Why not do a movie on Pat Tillman or Jessica Lynch? OH that's right they said freedom my Butt, of course pat gave up millions in the nfl but later wrote home about the opium, He was guarding and all the BS talking heads back home so he got friendly fire. I know how things worked when I was in. Some folk have good morals Some don't. Wonder why Jessica said they told her to lie?

the hiker Loc: San Diego

I read the book and I saw the movie and the way I saw it was the way one person handled the war he was in an how it affected his life and his family.I know people who are in the service who feel the same way as Chris did.I am sure that the people who go to war and see the things that they see have to learn how to deal with life from a different view then they had before. I don't know how they do it.

snapshotjock

I've seen the movie myself and I have seen and heard many comments both in print and online. My take on this is that while being a sniper is a cruel thing, just remember that in the movie the enemy also had snipers. In war, as always, it's either us---or them.

snapshotjock

I've seen the movie myself and I have seen and heard many comments both in print and online. My take on this is that while being a sniper is a cruel thing, just remember that in the movie the enemy also had snipers. In war, as always, it's either us---or them.

andesbill

jerryc41 wrote:

Interesting article.

http://www.salon.com/2015/02/01/i_was_an_american_sniper_and_chris_kyle%E2%80%99s_war_was_not_my_war/

My objection to the article and to others that have criticized Clint Eastwood's story of the Iraq war, is that they forget or deliberately omitted his two great movies of the Iwo Jima battles, viewed from both sides.
When you view any single movie by a director as great as Eastwood, you are only getting a fraction of his total view/opinion on that topic. The sniper has to be taken in context with all his other movies.
Bill

TheeGambler Loc: The green pastures of Northeast Texas

andesbill wrote:

My objection to the article and to others that have criticized Clint Eastwood's story of the Iraq war, is that they forget or deliberately omitted his two great movies of the Iwo Jima battles, viewed from both sides.
When you view any single movie by a director as great as Eastwood, you are only getting a fraction of his total view/opinion on that topic. The sniper has to be taken in context with all his other movies.
Bill

I don't think that this movie was about Eastwood's "opinion."

andesbill

TheeGambler wrote:

I don't think that this movie was about Eastwood's "opinion."

Every good director includes their viewpoint/opinion. In sniper, Eastwood deliberately left out all other viewpoints, except that of the sniper. That was a deliberate choice. He could have included soldiers and other characters who weren't as rabidly anti-Iraqi as Kyle, which would have changed the tone of the movie. He didn't. He's made his opinion about the war against terrorism clear, in this movie and in his public political statements. His very choice of doing this movie is a statement by itself.
BTW I'm not criticizing him for any of this. I'll see sniper when it comes out on DVD.
Bill

TheeGambler Loc: The green pastures of Northeast Texas

andesbill wrote:

Every good director includes their viewpoint/opini... (show quote)

You misunderstand! This movie wasn't about "different viewpoints" and it should not have been. The movie was about a soldier, Kyle, and the toll the war took on him and his family, as individuals. You may think he was "rabid" I think he was a hero.
Frankly, I don't feel that anyone wants to see a movie where our soldiers are soft on the enemy. The idea of war is to kill the enemy and win...not to agonize over their viewpoint or anyone else's.

andesbill

TheeGambler wrote:

You misunderstand! This movie wasn't about "different viewpoints" and it should not have been. The movie was about a soldier, Kyle, and the toll the war took on him and his family, as individuals. You may think he was "rabid" I think he was a hero.
Frankly, I don't feel that anyone wants to see a movie where our soldiers are soft on the enemy. The idea of war is to kill the enemy and win...not to agonize over their viewpoint or anyone else's.

I didn't call him rabid. I said he was rabidly anti-Iraqi. His constant use of the term "ragheads", is an example. I never said that the movie should have us as soft. I said that making this movie in this way was a choice, therefore a viewpoint. Personally, I'm fine with Eastwood's choices in the movie, even though the Iraqi war was an expensive sideshow and did little to fight Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and other terrorists. I would have preferred it if Kyle had done his sniping against Boko Haram, or the Taliban.

Bill