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Feb 3, 2015 17:06:11   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
James Shaw wrote:
But how will they attack our shores?


Go back 4 of my posts.

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Feb 3, 2015 17:22:55   #
James Shaw
 
Quote:
James Shaw wrote:
But how will they attack our shores?
BigBear wrote:
Go back 4 of my posts.


I went back, but still don't see how they will invade our country, and I failed to see what measles has to do with this?

911-perpetrators were trained to fly in our country, took over our airplanes, and crashed them into our buildings.

We spent 10 years with thousands of lives lost invading Afghanistan and then Iraq, and the stupidity continues, without an end in sight just because we trained camel jockey pilots to fly and to crash into our buildings.

They did not invade us, unless you call just letting them into our country an invasion. We need to be smarter and to act smarter and quit thinking our military might alone is going to solve this situation.

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Feb 3, 2015 17:38:49   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
James Shaw wrote:
I went back, but still don't see how they will invade our country, and I failed to see what measles has to do with this?

911-perpetrators were trained to fly in our country, took over our airplanes, and crashed them into our buildings.

We spent 10 years with thousands of lives lost invading Afghanistan and then Iraq, and the stupidity continues, without an end in sight just because we trained camel jockey pilots to fly and to crash into our buildings.

They did not invade us, unless you call just letting them into our country an invasion. We need to be smarter and to act smarter and quit thinking our military might alone is going to solve this situation.
I went back, but still don't see how they will inv... (show quote)


If that's all you got out of it, then you gave up on thinking and pre-concluded what is going to happen or not. And you have a lot of faith in a regime that can't tell the truth about anything.

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Feb 3, 2015 19:40:28   #
James Shaw
 
Quote:
James Shaw wrote:
I went back, but still don't see how they will invade our country, and I failed to see what measles has to do with this?

911-perpetrators were trained to fly in our country, took over our airplanes, and crashed them into our buildings.

We spent 10 years with thousands of lives lost invading Afghanistan and then Iraq, and the stupidity continues, without an end in sight just because we trained camel jockey pilots to fly and to crash into our buildings.

They did not invade us, unless you call just letting them into our country an invasion. We need to be smarter and to act smarter and quit thinking our military might alone is going to solve this situation.
James Shaw wrote: br I went back, but still don't ... (show quote)
BigBear wrote:
If that's all you got out of it, then you gave up on thinking and pre-concluded what is going to happen or not. And you have a lot of faith in a regime that can't tell the truth about anything.


I have a lot of faith in America. "Truth," now that is an entirely different discussion, that is if you can define that word adequately. Most cannot.

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Feb 3, 2015 19:52:21   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
James Shaw wrote:
I have a lot of faith in America. "Truth," now that is an entirely different discussion, that is if you can define that word adequately. Most cannot.


You've learned a lot from your leader about word play.
I have no more time for you. Go play your games with someone else.

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Feb 3, 2015 19:56:27   #
James Shaw
 
Quote:
James Shaw wrote:
I have a lot of faith in America. "Truth," now that is an entirely different discussion, that is if you can define that word adequately. Most cannot.
BigBear wrote:
You've learned a lot from your leader about word play.
I have no more time for you. Go play your games with someone else.


Oh, how disappointing, "that you have no more time for me." As is often said, "if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen."

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Feb 3, 2015 21:28:10   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
James Shaw wrote:
But how will they attack our shores?


You are trying to use logic. I thought you were smarter than that. You can yell louder but if they don't understand the language they don't understand the language.

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Feb 3, 2015 21:32:29   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
James Shaw wrote:
"They" are not united in "belief." Just look at the Sunnis, Kurds and Shiites.


Most on here can't comprehend that. A poster here earlier postulated that Iran was financing I.S.. To them a Muslim is a Muslim and this is much more about hair on ones chest than any silly old facts.

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Feb 3, 2015 21:57:15   #
davidheald1942 Loc: Mars (the planet)
 
James Shaw wrote:
My point is that ISIS wants U.S. and European troops on the ground because they know it would turn out just like our defeats in Iraq and Afghanistan. They want to ruin us economically and in every other way possible.

I think some politicians know that; others scare me of their ignorance. We have no well-defined enemy, and until we do we cannot plan effective military strategies.

I guess I don't know where you are coming from?


You mean they don't know were are already ruined economically and most other way??
"My point is that ISIS wants U.S. and European troops on the ground because they know it would turn out just like our defeats in Iraq and Afghanistan. They want to ruin us economically and in every other way possible."

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Feb 3, 2015 22:03:41   #
BigBear Loc: Northern CT
 
davidheald1942 wrote:
You mean they don't know were are already ruined economically and most other way??
"My point is that ISIS wants U.S. and European troops on the ground because they know it would turn out just like our defeats in Iraq and Afghanistan. They want to ruin us economically and in every other way possible."


You're wasting your time.
They don't understand english and keep trying to turn it into something else.

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Feb 4, 2015 00:35:47   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
James Shaw wrote:
Just tell me, how will ISIS invade our shores? In their superior and well equipped navy, air force, etc?


Maybe ISIS is not yet ready to attack the United States, but do you think that if we just sit back and do nothing that they will never grow into a force to threaten us? Don't forget that they don't need an army or navy to do us harm. They are not like a normal colonial power that wants to conquer others and then administrate the territory for the benefit of their homeland. They are bent on total destruction and annihilation of their enemies, and are not bound by any moral restraints. In fact they seem to delight in their debauchery. All they need is a few dedicated men to cross the most porous border on earth with a little bomb-making know-how. They don't even have to carry any supplies or weapons. This may not happen tomorrow, but leave them alone and give them enough time and see what happens. 19 plane hijackers killed 3,000 people within an hour, and by sheer luck the terrorists didn't think to crash the planes lower on the buildings. The death toll could have been ten times more.

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Feb 4, 2015 01:29:40   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Steven Seward wrote:
Maybe ISIS is not yet ready to attack the United States, but do you think that if we just sit back and do nothing that they will never grow into a force to threaten us? Don't forget that they don't need an army or navy to do us harm. They are not like a normal colonial power that wants to conquer others and then administrate the territory for the benefit of their homeland. They are bent on total destruction and annihilation of their enemies, and are not bound by any moral restraints. In fact they seem to delight in their debauchery. All they need is a few dedicated men to cross the most porous border on earth with a little bomb-making know-how. They don't even have to carry any supplies or weapons. This may not happen tomorrow, but leave them alone and give them enough time and see what happens. 19 plane hijackers killed 3,000 people within an hour, and by sheer luck the terrorists didn't think to crash the planes lower on the buildings. The death toll could have been ten times more.
Maybe ISIS is not yet ready to attack the United S... (show quote)


9/11 wasn't I.S., different organizations different operating methods.

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Feb 4, 2015 07:25:16   #
Steven Seward Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
 
thom w wrote:
9/11 wasn't I.S., different organizations different operating methods.


Perhaps ISIS is even worse. They have hundreds of times more manpower and already killed more people than the 911'ers.

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Feb 4, 2015 08:31:00   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Steven Seward wrote:
Perhaps ISIS is even worse. They have hundreds of times more manpower and already killed more people than the 911'ers.


They may be worse, I'm not sure how you measure that. They both seem pretty bad. I was just saying they aren't the same. Al-Qaida didn't hold ground they were more of an outreach gorilla type terrorist group while I.S. is trying to build a "nation". The y are different organizations and they behave differently and provide different threats although they are both evolving.

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Feb 4, 2015 09:26:40   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
A ploy to get Japanese boots on the ground
http://www.tomatobubble.com/id778.html

Might be the real reason Israel wants Iran
http://www.tomatobubble.com/id775.html

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