Lightroom
Jan 15, 2015 19:22:36 #
I admit to being a dinosaur. I have never understood what Lightroom brings to the table. Photoshop/Bridge does everything I can think of that Lightroom offers. I keep trying to find a use for this program and keep coming up short. The catalogs are a pain where I sit. PS not the most intuitive program but way ahead of Lightroom. Every time I want to make a tweak I have to hunt for the right module. Plus they stripped print options from PS. Now I have to scour Lightroom and then relearn how make a custom layout.
Now you Lightroom lovers have at me. The only thing it's done for me is weaken PS
Now you Lightroom lovers have at me. The only thing it's done for me is weaken PS
Jan 15, 2015 19:44:53 #
Meganephron wrote:
I admit to being a dinosaur. I have never underst... (show quote)
It isn't compulsory to use LR. If you are happy with Bridge and Photoshop, the so be it. Remove LR from your system and regain the disc space.
Jan 15, 2015 19:48:09 #
This is why dinosaurs are extinct. Lol. Lightroom is a very powerful tool to be used in conjunction with, not instead of photoshop, elements, or bridge. There are so many things it can do that the ACR does not include. I for one, no longer use bridge. I find it redundant.
But, for the average user, lightroom may not be needed because of ACR. For me, it has cut my post processing time down between 60-80% because I do a lot of batch processing. I also find the radial tool to be quicker as well as the presets, but not good for removing blemishes; no way. Photoshop does a better job for that one. In my opinion, lightroom does a much better job with noise reduction as well as removing chromatic aberration initially. Then, if I have to, I do some more work in photoshop or some plugins if need be.
Just keep an open mind. You might find some cool things that it does. Look up the tutorials on the web. Some of them are real eye openers.
But, for the average user, lightroom may not be needed because of ACR. For me, it has cut my post processing time down between 60-80% because I do a lot of batch processing. I also find the radial tool to be quicker as well as the presets, but not good for removing blemishes; no way. Photoshop does a better job for that one. In my opinion, lightroom does a much better job with noise reduction as well as removing chromatic aberration initially. Then, if I have to, I do some more work in photoshop or some plugins if need be.
Just keep an open mind. You might find some cool things that it does. Look up the tutorials on the web. Some of them are real eye openers.
Jan 15, 2015 19:48:28 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
Meganephron wrote:
I admit to being a dinosaur. I have never underst... (show quote)
You could always uninstall Lightroom and get ACDsee Pro 10 Elite, it does more than Lightroom. ACDsee has pixel level editing, layers capability and cataloging.
Jan 15, 2015 19:53:54 #
I find that LR is much more intuitive and easier to use than ACR, especially the crop tool, which I hate in ACR.
Jan 15, 2015 20:08:55 #
Racmanaz wrote:
You could always uninstall Lightroom and get ACDsee Pro 10 Elite, it does more than Lightroom. ACDsee has pixel level editing, layers capability and cataloging.
Elite? I have the Ultimate version, but I still find myself going to Lightroom and Photoshop for the heavy lifting jobs.
I've been a long time ACDSee fan. Started using their software years ago... Lately, I've been a little disappointed with their marketing strategy. I thought when I purchased v8 Pro, it would include updates for a little while. No, they came out with "Ultimate" and charged me an upgrade fee. The layering feature is very inferior to Photoshop.
I still like the software and is good for quick edits, but Lr and Ps together are the bomb hands down.
Jan 15, 2015 20:15:55 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
mdorn wrote:
Elite? I have the Ultimate version, but I still fi... (show quote)
LOL oops sorry, I got Dxo mixed up with ACDsee "Ultimate" not Elite, thanks for the correction. Ya I'm not sure what the deal is with ACDsee marketing, but I really do like the program it self.
Jan 15, 2015 22:01:24 #
If you want Lightroom to be less painful to learn, check out Tony Northrup's new Lightroom 5 ebook. It covers every little thing and has hours of video tutorials linked to it as well. It's nicely done. It's helped me unlearn some of my bad habits and has shown me how powerful LR really is, especially for cataloguing, keywording and searching for needle in a haystack images. Good luck.
Jan 16, 2015 06:00:35 #
Meganephron wrote:
I admit to being a dinosaur. I have never underst... (show quote)
Then remove LR - from an editing perspective it does exactly what PS-ACR does. The benefits of LR is its excellent catalog and powerful organization tools, tethered shooting, printing from developed raw images, slide shows, ease of adding watermarks, and extremely fast workflow, with little image duplication. Bridge is a file browser with some tagging and grouping functionality, but nowhere near as robust as LR. If you are happy without LR, then you don't need it.
Jan 16, 2015 07:32:33 #
JeffT
Loc: Central NY
I find Lightroom to be just the ticket for the kinds of work that I do a lot of ... gymnasium colorguard/dance competitions/performances. I might shoot 1000 (or more) pictures in an evening. If I missed getting the white balance right when shooting, I select all of the pictures and fix the WB on one and all are updated. The same goes for exposure, contrast, sharpening, lens correction, adding a subtle vignette, etc. I don't think that PS and Bridge is so good at this sort of batch work, but I might be wrong since I don't use that combination. I can export from raw to jpg direct to a hosting site from LR as well. I find LR to be pretty easy to use once you figure out what the develop sliders do and you can work through a mass of performance (or wedding reception) pictures quickly marking the good and ones rejecting the bad ones in one pass. Sometimes having done some simple batch correction first can ge very helpful as you go through an evening's group of pictures.
Jan 16, 2015 08:58:44 #
JeffT wrote:
I find Lightroom to be just the ticket for the kin... (show quote)
True - I have done a wedding as a second shooter, shot nearly 900 images, culled, corrected and adjusted the remaining 800 "keepers", and created excellent, proof quality jpegs for the primary with less than 2 hours work. The only software application that provides me with this fast a workflow is Capture One, but I miss the ability to use plug ins.
Jan 16, 2015 09:11:16 #
The catalog is LR's truly unique feature. By being a data base manager, you can find pictures instantly by many different criteria. I wish I had something like that for my thousands of negatives. The keywords are great.
As for editing, many people are finding they can do 90% or more in LR. LR is not meant to do the kind of editing that PS does but does make proofs a lot faster than PS. With a few other tools, most notably the radial filter, you have an awful lot of editing capability.
I know LR is another program to learn but it is well worth it.
As for editing, many people are finding they can do 90% or more in LR. LR is not meant to do the kind of editing that PS does but does make proofs a lot faster than PS. With a few other tools, most notably the radial filter, you have an awful lot of editing capability.
I know LR is another program to learn but it is well worth it.
Jan 16, 2015 09:37:22 #
Erik_H wrote:
I find that LR is much more intuitive and easier to use than ACR, especially the crop tool, which I hate in ACR.
Ditto :thumbup:
Jan 16, 2015 09:47:19 #
Meganephron wrote:
I admit to being a dinosaur. I have never underst... (show quote)
I currently use Photoshop and bridge. I have been looking towards migrating to Light Room -- but I my major concern is how to migrate the currently assigned photograph keywords in Bridge to the keywords for the the photographs in Keyword.
Does anyone out there know where is the link/video/tutorial/etc that explains this?
Jan 16, 2015 10:12:17 #
Photoshop Elements also does a good job with scratches and blemishes :thumbup:
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