Manners or lack of in this group
Mar 13, 2012 02:06:34 #
I'm sorry you feel that way. i just tend to pass it off as a difference in mind set, culture, misunderstood or misdirected humor or even an occasional quick or sharp response. If i have offended you or anyone else, I would to hear about it (on the forum if necessary, but preferably by Private Message. I know I occasionally foul up and hereby apologize to anyone I've hurt or offended.
Mar 13, 2012 02:24:06 #
ShelterCove, please don't get upset by the rudeness of some here. Lots of times it is just a bad attempt at whit. God knows I've been guilty of some ill guided whit myself.
All you have to do is throw some back......Just like when we were kids. if some one throws a shot at you,....throw one back.....Sorry to say, it is like a right of passage.
After that, don't take the jerks personally.... You will find out in time who are the cool ones to listen to and who not to. If you have a serious question send some one a PM, I'd be glad to hear from you anytime(can't say I'll have the answer, but I can point you in the right direction).
There are some really smart photographers here, on this site(not that I one of them!) Regards, Don
What are you shooting with? What are your preferences?
All you have to do is throw some back......Just like when we were kids. if some one throws a shot at you,....throw one back.....Sorry to say, it is like a right of passage.
After that, don't take the jerks personally.... You will find out in time who are the cool ones to listen to and who not to. If you have a serious question send some one a PM, I'd be glad to hear from you anytime(can't say I'll have the answer, but I can point you in the right direction).
There are some really smart photographers here, on this site(not that I one of them!) Regards, Don
What are you shooting with? What are your preferences?
Mar 13, 2012 03:09:29 #
ShelterCove
Loc: Nowhere, CA
Nikon_DonB wrote:
ShelterCove, please don't get upset by the rudenes... (show quote)
Hi Don, Have gotten the message just to let it go so will be doing that from now on. Thanks for your offer for assistance. There is just so much to learn. I can see the wealth of knowledge here and I'm always checking out a link or taking notes. At the moment have a Panasonic Lumix DMC-ZS6. It really surprises me sometimes with what comes out of it. Am looking to buy DSLR but need more info before I buy. Preferences I take to mean what do I like to shoot? Landscapes, abstracts, flora - pretty varied. I've posted a couple things. I like to join in when someone starts a topic and invites others to post similar images. There are some incredible pix here. :)
Mar 13, 2012 03:23:30 #
A DSLR is a big step. I bought a Nikon D3100 a year ago and its awesome. It has a guide mode that'll really get you going fast. check it out and you'll love it. start with the auto mode and work your way up through the different modes. It comes with a great lens too. A 18-55mmVR(vibration reduction). I'd be glad to help you with any questions you may have with it, as will anybody here. It is a very popular camera and gets "rave" reviews everywhere. At 14 MP it is crystal clear. Regards, Don
Mar 13, 2012 03:29:18 #
Mar 13, 2012 03:31:00 #
ShelterCove
Loc: Nowhere, CA
Nikon_DonB wrote:
A DSLR is a big step. I bought a Nikon D3100 a yea... (show quote)
Big step and enough $$ to make me want to be careful. Had Nikon D40 several years ago but sold it. Should have kept it and just upgraded the lens. Also had Leica Digilux 2 recently but most of the time got better images from the Panasonic. And didn't like the fixed lens. I'm going to the camera store pretty soon to do a hands on. Will definitely check out the D3100. Thanks again Don!
Mar 13, 2012 04:50:35 #
Mar 13, 2012 07:08:24 #
donrent
Loc: Punta Gorda , Fl
Sorry on my non-proof reading my post... It seem I had an over-active finger on one letter... THAT was not intentional...
Mar 13, 2012 07:56:22 #
Wabbit
Loc: Arizona Desert
ShelterCove wrote:
quote=Rabbit quote=MtnMan Alas there are a few w... (show quote)
It's not necessarily what is said but rather How it's said.
Not everyone has writing skills, not everyone can express themselves, not everyone thinks things out before posting.
I find this forum to be rather reserved BTW
Mar 13, 2012 08:10:52 #
ShelterCove wrote:
I'm so disappointed in how many times some people ... (show quote)
I feel as you do about this subject. The are a lot of really nice people on this site that can address the subject in such a way that has a calming affect yet express what they see that can be corrected. Then there are very few that can say things in a mean cruel way. I have notice that some of them have disappeared or seldom heard from.
Mar 13, 2012 08:12:24 #
One thing to remember is that in today's society, being honest about a critique (your shot is way too soft, did you focus on the eyes?) is considered rude and insensitive when it's not.
If we don't preface a negative comment with 10 praises then somehow it's rude and we are jerks.
The "skin thickness level" on this forum is thinner than I've ever seen in a photography forum (though I haven't seen them all) and one man's "jerk" is another man's "blunt and to the point."
I suggest we all cut each other slack when we disagree on a point and ASSUME that the INTENTIONS of the "alleged jerk" are to help the poster improve his/her shots UNLESS a personal attack is given (i.e. "you idiot!" or "you are stupid" etc.)
Telling someone that their photo isn't composed well isn't a personal attack and the OP doesn't need to be defended by the self-appointed forum police.
If we don't preface a negative comment with 10 praises then somehow it's rude and we are jerks.
The "skin thickness level" on this forum is thinner than I've ever seen in a photography forum (though I haven't seen them all) and one man's "jerk" is another man's "blunt and to the point."
I suggest we all cut each other slack when we disagree on a point and ASSUME that the INTENTIONS of the "alleged jerk" are to help the poster improve his/her shots UNLESS a personal attack is given (i.e. "you idiot!" or "you are stupid" etc.)
Telling someone that their photo isn't composed well isn't a personal attack and the OP doesn't need to be defended by the self-appointed forum police.
Mar 13, 2012 09:04:40 #
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Mar 13, 2012 12:08:01 #
ShelterCove
Loc: Nowhere, CA
This experience is fascinating. So many perspectives to consider. I still come to the same place - that criticism can be given gently. The idea is to educate and encourage a person, not alienate them. The truth doesn't have to hurt. Thank you all for you input. Looking forward to lots of photo tips and tricks. :)
Mar 13, 2012 13:16:55 #
I just hate being criticized for being critical. How rude is that.
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