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Dec 9, 2014 22:23:43   #
greg vescuso Loc: Ozark,Mo.
 
alissaspieces wrote:
Thank you and awesome shots! But I can't use flash. I think the 750 will be good..just reading up on it now and it should be able to shoot higher then 3200. I am going to be close up so I am thinking that I would put the 80-200 on the 750 and bring the 7100 and put my 50mm 1.8 on that ...at least the extra light from the prime would be helpful. Or the 18-55..those are my thoughts.


That's great your getting the 750 that will work the best. Hope you have fun! And the 50mm 1.8 will work good on the 7100 even if you have to go to ISO 2500

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Dec 10, 2014 04:29:44   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Alissa, when I get home from work I'll post two shots, if I can find them(?), they will explain some.(8-9pm west coast) ;-) SS

Alissa, I'm posting these two shots so you can see the difference in the ISO and noise.
All the exif is intact. Canon 5dll FF, lens is 50mm f1.4 @ 1.4 with ss of 200 and Auto ISO.
Theses shots were shot about 30 seconds apart and would have been very difficult without the Auto ISO as the light changes constantly!.
The stage shot is at ISO 500.
The wings shot is at ISO 3200.
At 100% you can see the difference in the noise on the skin. They have not been de-noised.
Shooting at a fixed high ISO ALL the shots will have the same noise. On Auto ISO at least some of them will be VERY clean! Shooting in Spot-Meter will properly expose the performer, nothing else matters!
For me, there is no substitute for fast glass. At f2.8, each of these shots would have the ISO a full TWO stops slower. Good luck
SS

Stage ISO 500
Stage ISO 500...
(Download)

Wings ISO 3200
Wings ISO 3200...
(Download)

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Dec 10, 2014 09:22:46   #
fstops1957 Loc: New Hampshire
 
Two cameras (anything with good low light capability), a hsort 24-70mm zoom and a longer 70-200mm or similiar. You won't have much flexibility to change position but will probably want to shoot performers all over the stage as well as close up facial expressions, etc. Three songs may seem like a lot but to get a variety of shots you will have to manage your time and shot variety wisely.
AND EAR PROTECTION! I ended up in front of the speaker towers at a metal show once and didn't hear anything for days.

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Dec 10, 2014 09:30:49   #
alissaspieces Loc: New York
 
Thank you! Looks great even at the high ISO. I just went back to some of my older photos of a concert (the only one I have ever done) to see what ISO I used and saw that my 7100 did well at 2000 but I think I did noise reduce in post. I will def use auto iso..thanks!

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Dec 10, 2014 09:31:19   #
alissaspieces Loc: New York
 
Ahh..yes!Thank you about the ear protection! Good advice!!
fstops1957 wrote:
Two cameras (anything with good low light capability), a hsort 24-70mm zoom and a longer 70-200mm or similiar. You won't have much flexibility to change position but will probably want to shoot performers all over the stage as well as close up facial expressions, etc. Three songs may seem like a lot but to get a variety of shots you will have to manage your time and shot variety wisely.
AND EAR PROTECTION! I ended up in front of the speaker towers at a metal show once and didn't hear anything for days.
Two cameras (anything with good low light capabili... (show quote)

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Dec 10, 2014 09:33:56   #
alissaspieces Loc: New York
 
Thanks! I think my plan will be to bring the 50mm in my pocket, start with the 17-50 on the d7100 and the 80-200 on the 750. I get to shoot the opening act first so that can sorta be a test run before the main performer. Then I might switch to the 50 if I need more light. I am excited! I am not working for anyone..this is all for me so the pressure is off in terms of having to turn int photos! First time jitters I suppose but I love this performer so I am really excited! Hoping this turns into a little side gig eventually! Bucket list ... check!
greg vescuso wrote:
That's great your getting the 750 that will work the best. Hope you have fun! And the 50mm 1.8 will work good on the 7100 even if you have to go to ISO 2500

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Dec 10, 2014 09:45:27   #
gmccaleb Loc: East KY / South AL
 
I have a friend who does this and uses a d7100. She uses a 70-200 2.8 and gets beautiful shots. She sometimes rents a 24-70 2.8 , also. Yes on the ear plugs, too!

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Dec 10, 2014 10:28:01   #
Walt R Loc: eastern tn
 
As one who shoots a lot of concerts and performances , PM me and I will try to help you out , also a nikon shooter .


walt

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Dec 10, 2014 10:35:21   #
sirlensalot Loc: Arizona
 
The 750 is a great idea. You have all the lenses you will need.
Yes, for shooting wide open, manual mode. The 750 can easily be used above 3200 ISO, but it may be your max setting on the 7100. Being that close to stage, my guess is you won't be going much above 1600. Good luck and have fun. Don't forget your ear plugs! Lol

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Dec 10, 2014 11:53:13   #
cjc2 Loc: Hellertown PA
 
Although this is not my normal work, I have done it many times. I've used film and every generation of digital released. Don't stress. You did not say under what conditions you'll be shooting, but in reading what you have said, I am thinking about a normal concert setup when I make my remarks. First, I doubt flash will be allowed, so don't bank on that. Second, the stage, and the performers are normally lit very well, at least part of the time. I use spot metering on the face for all of this. Wide open, auto iso is fine with a shutter speed to match. I believe your 80-200 would be your best choice here. It's pretty hard to get a shot of the entire band on stage from underneath them! You might want to have a second body with a shorter lens, but one will do if that's what you've got. I wouldn't go rent a body that's new to you and then try to work with it, under pressure, with no practice. Auto white balance is usually the best choice as the color of the lights are constantly changing. Hope this helps.

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Dec 10, 2014 12:18:55   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
Walt R wrote:
As one who shoots a lot of concerts and performances , PM me and I will try to help you out , also a nikon shooter .walt


Walt, if you gave some general advice on the air, then you can help many that might be following as well that might have the same exact questions and indeed, anyone on the Internet.
Examples of pics will help a lot also.
Somebody that has done a lot of this has a lot to contribute in both words and examples. Do post some. ;-)
SS

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Dec 10, 2014 12:31:40   #
WNYShooter Loc: WNY
 
Todd Owyoung is a very well known concert photog who has some great tutorials on shooting shows.

http://www.ishootshows.com/category/technique/

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Dec 10, 2014 12:42:41   #
CraigFair Loc: Santa Maria, CA.
 
DavidPine wrote:
In the pit eh... Rent a Df or D4s, raise your ISO fairly high, shoot RAW. I would rather have a 24-70 f/2.8 or a 14-24 f/2.8 being that close.


I second Dave's motion for the High ISO cameras. The D750 is only going to be good up to ISO 800. Both Lenses would be ideal. Noise is your problem in this shoot, ISO noise that is.
Craig

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Dec 10, 2014 12:55:35   #
Walt R Loc: eastern tn
 
SS , okay , normally stage lighting can be hot " bright " so may have
to dial in some " neg "exposure comp you will have to see what you
have once there . You should be concerned with skin tones , let the
background go black , you don't want to blow out the highlights . My
way of shooting the histogram way to the left but that's my way of
shooting " low key " . Let your iso ride " auto " set to the normal range
of the camera , example 100-12800 if your camera will do that , if
noise is a problem you can PP but get the shot !!! Spot metering , 1/125
f4 , manual mode , exp comp -0.07 for starters , adjust for venue when you are there , shot raw 14bit . These are my basic setting's .
I shoot nikon so you would have do your canon's to the equivilent . I
shoot D3 w 50/1:8 , D3s w 70-200/2:8 vrII , can't really put images on
UHH site due to most contractual agreements , but have a few on my
website . A little long winded , but you can always PM or sent an email and I will try to help , thanks .
Walt

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Dec 10, 2014 13:09:58   #
kiddrich
 
This is my advice based on news photography type photos. You will be under pressure brought on by your own anxiety and excitement. Relax and have fun. I have never seen a pro photographer at an event like this use a fixed lens. I suggest you go with as many telephotos lenses as you can BUT only if they are on a camera. Three songs are usually what is allowed for this type of event and they will be short. Get in as early as possible and check ever white balance you have....in most cases you will set it for sunlight exposure. Spot focus is what you want and as little background as possible. You should be able to move around somewhat with little problem as this is not a news conference and there may only be a few photographers present. The area you will be in is normally a buffer zone to keep fans from running on stage etc....I don't know where this will take place and what you are after but DO NOT be afraid to ask questions about where you can and can not go. You do not want to be moving back and forth with a fixed lens for the right shot....move the lens not your body. I have seen MANY that have fallen or tripped over lines, stairs, chairs etc.....have fun....good luck...and stay safe.........

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