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Nov 4, 2014 12:06:02   #
slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again
 
OldDoc wrote:
Experience tells me that arguing this point with you is like trying to explain atomic structure to a chicken, but here goes.
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Nov 4, 2014 12:17:28   #
OldDoc Loc: New York
 
Racmanaz wrote:
You really need to read more before commenting on so called vestigial structures, I will show you later how you are contradicting evolution scientists study results especially the whale pelvic bones.
Please do show me what literature I have missed in 50 years of studying and doing research in biology and teaching about evolutionary theory. I'm always ready to modify my views (as opposed to some other, unnamed people on this site) when confronted with scientifically verifiable information.

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Nov 4, 2014 12:20:15   #
user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
 
OldDoc wrote:
Please do show me what literature I have missed in 50 years of studying and doing research in biology and teaching about evolutionary theory. I'm always ready to modify my views (as opposed to some other, unnamed people on this site) when confronted with scientifically verifiable information.
watch some YouTube...

there's a whole 'nother set of scientists where everything works out just like in the Bible.... it's like taking a test when you have the answer sheet (except every answer is wrong)

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Nov 4, 2014 12:25:42   #
OldDoc Loc: New York
 
user47602 wrote:
watch some YouTube...

there's a whole 'nother set of scientists where everything works out just like in the Bible.... it's like taking a test when you have the answer sheet (except every answer is wrong)
No, I said "scientifically verifiable information", which excludes youtube postings since there is no way to verify what some potential idiot (or genius) posts there. The entire scientific method, which you denigrate because science seems to keep changing its mind, is aimed at gradually and continually approaching the truth. Youtube postings are outside of the scientific method, and belong in the realm of the Area51 method. Show me some peer-reviewed documentation of what you are claiming and I'll listen (critically, but I'll listen).

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Nov 4, 2014 13:16:59   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
OldDoc wrote:
Now lets move on to some of the other claims in that piece you posted.
He says: "Why do books on evolution, including grade school, high school and college textbooks, not include such important, basic information? Evolutionists are masters of speculation; why don’t they speculate about this?" in reference to the origin of elements and chemical compounds. The answer is simple - evolution makes no claims about the origin of chemicals, atoms or the universe in general, so no textbooks, scientific publications or blogs addressing evolution need to discuss this. Incidentally, in my readings of the bible I find no mention of the Calvin cycle, weak hydrogen bonding, or any of the other zillion chemical facts...by your "reasoning", why is that?

He also says: "What are the odds that the evolutionary process, proceeding by random changes, would produce human beings, plus millions of species of animals, birds, fish and insects, all with symmetrical features, i.e., one side being a mirror image of the other? We take symmetry in all these creatures for granted, but is that a reasonable outcome for a random process?" The odds of this happening are 100% since it has happened. And just in the interests of completeness and accuracy, not all life forms are symmetrical - your own body has clearly defined left-right asymmetries, for example. Just ask your renal arteries, your heart and liver.

I could go on, but life is too short, and my bucket list grows daily.
Now lets move on to some of the other claims in th... (show quote)


Common sense and true facts mean nothing to rac, he doesn't care to face the truth.

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Nov 4, 2014 13:23:33   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
You really need to read more before commenting on so called vestigial structures, I will show you later how you are contradicting evolution scientists study results especially the whale pelvic bones.


Old doc is right and you are too caught up in yourself to admit it. Old doc is right when he says that nothing that he says will convince you, your belief structure is just too important to you.

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Nov 4, 2014 14:08:28   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
OldDoc wrote:
Please do show me what literature I have missed in 50 years of studying and doing research in biology and teaching about evolutionary theory. I'm always ready to modify my views (as opposed to some other, unnamed people on this site) when confronted with scientifically verifiable information.


50 years of studying evolution and biology and still haven't changed your mind? Sorry to say but I used to be an evolutionist for about 25 years and now I'm not because it's a false theory based on fairy tales

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Nov 4, 2014 14:13:28   #
user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
 
OldDoc wrote:
No, I said "scientifically verifiable information", which excludes youtube postings since there is no way to verify what some potential idiot (or genius) posts there. The entire scientific method, which you denigrate because science seems to keep changing its mind, is aimed at gradually and continually approaching the truth. Youtube postings are outside of the scientific method, and belong in the realm of the Area51 method. Show me some peer-reviewed documentation of what you are claiming and I'll listen (critically, but I'll listen).
No, I said "scientifically verifiable informa... (show quote)


damn... we need punctuation marks for sarcasm and irony!!

:roll: works ok for sarcasm
irony ... i don't know.

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Nov 4, 2014 14:13:46   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
OldDoc wrote:
No, I said "scientifically verifiable information", which excludes youtube postings since there is no way to verify what some potential idiot (or genius) posts there. The entire scientific method, which you denigrate because science seems to keep changing its mind, is aimed at gradually and continually approaching the truth. Youtube postings are outside of the scientific method, and belong in the realm of the Area51 method. Show me some peer-reviewed documentation of what you are claiming and I'll listen (critically, but I'll listen).
No, I said "scientifically verifiable informa... (show quote)


YouTube is not the source of the information it is only used as a transport of an information. there are plenty of YouTube videos done by NOVA, NATGEO, NPR and other atheists and evolutionist outlets that posts on YouTube, I guess you consider those junk and unscientific and unverifiable as well

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Nov 4, 2014 14:19:19   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
YouTube is not the source of the information it is only used as a transport of an information. there are plenty of YouTube videos done by NOVA, NATGEO, NPR and other atheists and evolutionist outlets that posts on YouTube, I guess you consider those junk and unscientific and unverifiable as well


A lot of what you post is just junk and not verifiable.

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Nov 4, 2014 14:19:43   #
user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
 
Rac... I was just kidding, YouTubing is not research!

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Nov 4, 2014 14:20:05   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
Racmanaz wrote:
50 years of studying evolution and biology and still haven't changed your mind? Sorry to say but I used to be an evolutionist for about 25 years and now I'm not because it's a false theory based on fairy tales


And religion isn't fairy tails?

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Nov 4, 2014 14:21:29   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
OldDoc wrote:
No, I said "scientifically verifiable information", which excludes youtube postings since there is no way to verify what some potential idiot (or genius) posts there. The entire scientific method, which you denigrate because science seems to keep changing its mind, is aimed at gradually and continually approaching the truth. Youtube postings are outside of the scientific method, and belong in the realm of the Area51 method. Show me some peer-reviewed documentation of what you are claiming and I'll listen (critically, but I'll listen).
No, I said "scientifically verifiable informa... (show quote)


Rac has no verifiable proof of anything other then the silly videos he posts.

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Nov 4, 2014 14:22:47   #
silver Loc: Santa Monica Ca.
 
user47602 wrote:
Rac... I was just kidding, YouTubing is not research!


WHAT! You tube isn't real research? Im crushed.

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Nov 4, 2014 21:38:12   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Here's a another fact about lies and deception on whale "evolution".... You will here it from the evolutionists mouth "Phil Gingerich" who helped "create" the whale evolution progressive scale that he admitted he made up because he assumed such garbage "science"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G5vAc5_VJo

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